Tourney Blind structure NLHE vs PLO (2 Viewers)

[doughboy63]

So thinking of running a PLO tourney. I assume that since they are both big blind games that the structure should basically be identical, but wanted to double check here as I have never played in an Omaha tourney before. Am I missing anything?

 

[DaneWoj]

PLO will generally run fast due to the nature of the game. We run our PLO tournaments with the same structure as NLHE.

 

[BGinGA]

I advise using a no antes structure with a T100-base set, making it much easier to calculate pot sizes. PLO events will typically end 2-3 levels sooner than NLHE using the same structure.

 

[doughboy63]

@BGinGA thats a nice point about counting pots, I wouldn’t have thought about that. Thanks!

 

[Legend5555]

Most Pot Limit games use no ante otherwise the pots grow too fast too quickly. PLO doesn't need that extra help from the ante to play big.

 

[APatHand]

Most of the PLO tournaments that I have played in have had a rebuy component to them. Either a traditional rebuy (at the players discretion) or rebuys in the form of redeemable lammers distributed with the starting chip stacks.

 

[Gobbs]

@BGinGA thats a nice point about counting pots, I wouldn’t have thought about that. Thanks!

If he didn’t think of these things, his dealer would whine too much.

 

[BGinGA]

Most Pot Limit games use no ante otherwise the pots grow too fast too quickly.

I've seen quite a few pot-limit hold'em games with antes, used for the same reasons they're used in NLHE (altering entering pot odds). Impossible to get a pot to grow any faster than in NLHE.

 

[Legend5555]

I've seen quite a few pot-limit hold'em games with antes, used for the same reasons they're used in NLHE (altering entering pot odds). Impossible to get a pot to grow any faster than in NLHE.

In theory, of course. In practice, not so often. And I mean too fast for wanting to be pot limit obviously. If you introduce antes to PL games, unless you are really deep, you might as well be playing NL.

 

[Legend5555]

If be curious to see average pot sizes for same blind PLO and NLHE games. I'm willing to bet the pots in PLO are bigger on average and that people get all in more often in PLO.

 

[BGinGA]

In theory, of course. In practice, not so often. And I mean too fast for wanting to be pot limit obviously. If you introduce antes to PL games, unless you are really deep, you might as well be playing NL.

Biggest draw of Pot-Limit Hold'em is minimizing all-in pre-flop action. Adding antes changes the pot-odds dynamic, but does inflate the pot-to-stack ratio to some degree.

If be curious to see average pot sizes for same blind PLO and NLHE games. I'm willing to bet the pots in PLO are bigger on average and that people get all in more often in PLO.

No question Omaha pots are bigger -- four card hands generate bigger draws, and require larger bets to force draws to pay. It's often correct to bet pot in PLO, much less so in NLHE. Apples vs oranges.

 

[Legend5555]

Biggest draw of Pot-Limit Hold'em is minimizing all-in pre-flop action. Adding antes changes the pot-odds dynamic, but does inflate the pot-to-stack ratio to some degree.


No question Omaha pots are bigger -- four card hands generate bigger draws, and require larger bets to force draws to pay. It's often correct to bet pot in PLO, much less so in NLHE. Apples vs oranges.

Then my point about introducing antes to PLO is correct. It would inflate the pots faster. Faster than you probably want or need in an already action filled game. That was my whole point.

 

[Gobbs]

... people get all in more often in PLO.

Not if they play both games well.

 

[BGinGA]

Then my point about introducing antes to PLO is correct. It would inflate the pots faster. Faster than you probably want or need in an already action filled game. That was my whole point.

Yeah,, except that WASN'T your point. Your point was that it inflated most Pot Limit games faster (not specifically PLO). A point which I countered.

Most Pot Limit games use no ante otherwise the pots grow too fast too quickly.

You're frickin' hopeless sometimes.

 

[APatHand]

My point is on the top of my head.