Tourney Adding on to existing set - break down needed (1 Viewer)

[CraigT78]

So I currently have a set that will spread 40 players with a 8-8-4-2-1 starting stack. I would like to expand this set to cover 63-70 players. (7 tables - 9 players with an option to fit 10) with multiple re-buy and add-on.

Here is what I have:

25 - 320
100 - 320
500 - 160
1k - - 400
5k - - 100
25k -- 30 (plaque)
100k -- 10 (plaque)

I know that I will need to add on

25 - 240 additional
100 - 240 additional
500 - 120 additional

The question is - do I need to add more 1k and 5k chips? What I would have left after the starting stacks is:

1k - 260 (260,000)
5k - 30 (150,000)

41 re-buys/add-ons would be covered with no chips left to color up.

This would be for my annual charity game - so maybe I could drop the starting stack to 5k and free up a lot more pink for add-on and re-buys.

How would you go about expanding my set?

(@BGinGA HELP!!)

 

[Frogzilla]

Looks like you will need more big chips for 10k start stack.

-70000 needed to color up 25/100
-average 34 rebuys, and assuming 60 players left, average stack is only 17-18k or so. Too early to introduce a 25000 plaque

I would get 40 1k and 80 5k which covers 78 rebuys and all the 25/100 colored up. At that point, assuming 50 players left, average stack is 29k. A couple plaques can make their way in, freeing up all the chips you need.

If you do shorten the stacks, 6k and 7k would be easily doable also without getting more 5k.

 

[BGinGA]

Here's how I see a 70-player 10K set (if using 8/8/4/2/1 starting stacks):
560 x T25
560 x T100
280 x T500
210 x T1000 (includes 70 for T25/T100 color-ups)
140 x T5000 (includes 70 for 35x re-buys, 50% of field size)
15 x T25000 (used for T500/T1000 color-ups)

Based on your current set numbers, you'll need to buy at least:
240 x T25
240 x T100
120 x T500
40 x T5000

You have plenty of T1000 and T25K chips already. In fact, you have 190x extra T1000s, so those ~could~ be used for another 19x re-buys if necessary. That's a total of 54 re-buys in a 70-player field (77%), which is usually way more than sufficient, even in a charity event.

Dunno how many add-ons you sell (or how big they are), but for every 10K add-on, you'll need 2x T5000s. So, assuming a worst-case maximum of 70 re-buys (unlikely) and 70 add-ons (also unlikely), you'd need a total of 350x T5000 chips, and thus need to purchase 250x more (instead of the 40x more shown above).

Keeping the re-buy numbers as-is (54/70) and just adding enough T5000s for 70x T10K add-ons puts your total T5000 needs at 280 chips, or purchasing 180 more.

No need to cut the stacks in half, imo.

 

[CraigT78]

Considering my 1k and 5k are oversize and I'd NEED to fill a rack - the 60 extra should be the 5k based off the numbers above? Add on will be either 1x or 1.5x the buy-in stack. You know, for charity. (Also assuming a GOCC min order - have to confirm)

 

[CraigT78]

A couple plaques can make their way in, freeing up all the chips you need.

A couple?? I want stacks of plaques

 

[BGinGA]

Considering my 1k and 5k are oversize and I'd NEED to fill a rack - the 60 extra should be the 5k based off the numbers above? Add on will be either 1x or 1.5x the buy-in stack. You know, for charity. (Also assuming a GOCC min order - have to confirm)

Yep. I'd either get one (or two) more racks of T5000s. And don't forget your bounty chips, lol.

 

[CdnBeerLover]

Stupid question...if stacks are 8/8/4/2/1, are there enough T500 and T1k chips in play to make change for the T5k chips introduced by rebuys?

We play 12k stacks, and I use rebuys of 0/0/4/5/1 or 0/0/2/1/2 to reduce change making. Just curious how it works with that few T500 and T1000 chips in use at a table that has 2 or 3 rebuys.

 

[BGinGA]

Good question, actually. I'd be handing out 1x T5000 and 5x T1000s for the first 38 re-buys until those extra 190x T1000s were all in play. That will help some.