Cash Game 600 chip cash/tourney set (2 Viewers)

[Baron_Von_Chipper]

Hi all, our group currently only plays $20 freezeout STTs with a non-denom set. I want to get a denom set of chips and try and get a cash game going because I much prefer playing cash games, but need to start it off super micro stakes to get people to try it out, but my goal is to try and eventually get a social .25/.25 cash game going. I’m also interested in being able to do cash equivalent tournaments if I’m going to put a denom cash set together.

For cash games I would want to cover up to 8 max. For STTs 10 max.

So with that in mind I’ve come up with the following 600 chip set that I think should let me start off with a $10 buyin .10/.10 cash game, but which can grow into my target 25/.25 game (first with $20 buyin, but with goal of getting it to $25 buyin) and perhaps even a light .25/50 game. I also think it works for a cash equivalent T.25 base tourney.

600 Chip set:
$.10 x 100
$.25 x 160
$1 x 200
$5 x 120
$20 x 20
Bank: $1,250

Proposed starting stacks:

.10/.10 ($10BI) cash game:
6 max: 15 / 18 / 4
8 max: 10 / 20 / 4
Might be a bit light on dimes for a 8 max .10/.10 game but this is mostly my gateway drug game so not stressing about that.

25/.25 cash game:
$20BI starting stack: x / 20 / 15
$25BI starting stack: x / 20 / 20

T.25 base cash equivalent tourney
.25/.25 starting blinds
$25 / 100BB starting stack: x / 16 / 16 / 1
$50 / 200BB starting stack x / 16 / 16 / 6

Thoughts? Comments? Thanks in advance.

 

[allforcharity]

Nickels + Quarters or Dimes + Half Dollars.

Never Dimes + Quarters.

 

[Machine]

600 Chip set:
$.10 x 100
$.25 x 160
$1 x 200
$5 x 120
$20 x 20
Bank: $1,250

$.10? what is that? Gross

I'm sure you mean .10 or 10c; there are no dollars.

You ought not use the same chips for cash and a tournament.

You won't need or ever use that many chips for a .10/.10 game, and you have a lot of inefficiencies. If you're going to play .10/.10, you should have a .50 instead of a .25.

Here is where you say, 'I don't like it, I'm not going to do it,' and you're wrong. Then the ad hominem starts, and we get banned from the site. So then you spend your money how you like to, because I'm some rando, and then later you want to see how it would play, just so you can say you've done it, to keep from appearing ignorant. But now you have to spend more money, and is it really worth it? So you don't buy them, and then your players find out and now they make fun of you, and it's all sorry, eh? eh? oh, sure thing sorry eh? Canadians?! amiright?!

Here is what you should buy:

.10 x 100 - You'll never use all of these, but if you ever sell, well most ppl want to buy a full rack
non-denom x 100 - You won't need 100 of these either, even in a .50/.50 game, but use them when you play .10/.10 as a .50 and use them as a .25 in a .25/.25 game
$1 x 200
$5 x 100
$20 x 10

If you want to add on later, it should be easy to get to 3-400 5s, 100 20s, and 20 100s later.


Also, Welcome! to the madness!

Happy Chipping!

 

[KHarp1]

Machine is right. He likes less fracs than I do, but, this absolutely works well and saves you money. Great place to start.

 

[Baron_Von_Chipper]

Dude that is quite the rant lol. Appreciate the feedback. I actually had this built to just be a 500 chip .25/.25 set, then had the idea of tacking on the rack of $.10 (I’m sticking with the dollar sign) chips to try and offer a lower buyin option before moving to .25/.25 which is the game I’m actually trying to get going.

As for using same chips cash and tourney, since the tourney buyin matches cash in stack not sure that’s a concern is it?

Anyway, your post made me laugh thanks eh. You’re right I’m not going to do it but the non-denom idea is an interesting one.

No ad hominem.

Cheers,

 

[KHarp1]

Yes, say hi to mominem.

 

[allforcharity]

Yes, say hi to mominem.

Or yo to eminem

 

[KHarp1]

M&M's sound good.

 

[maxim_666666]

Having the same set for cash and tournament, sooner or later you will face the fact that someone will try to exchange a tournament chip for $. Why do you need this? You can easily get both sets, keeping within 600-650 chips for 6-8 people.

 

[Machine]

I’m sticking with the dollar sign

Okay, but most of the members here will make fun of you and comment about it, also in time you'll be a convert

Here is a post where they use .25c

There are more with the topic, its too early for me to search for them, need coffee

using same chips cash and tourney, since the tourney buyin matches cash in stack not sure that’s a concern is it?

It is a security issue, everyone plays with friends we know, but soon friend of friends, and then its off to the races at the third iteration of this brings in someone that the 2nd friend doesn't really know, then its all drama. its a issue that while is unlikely and typically focused on a T25 or T100 being shared, why even open up the possibility that it could happen? And for such little money to altogether avoid it, and moar chips is good!

 

[Baron_Von_Chipper]

Okay, but most of the members here will make fun of you and comment about it, also in time you'll be a convert

Here is a post where they use .25c

There are more with the topic, its too early for me to search for them, need coffee

It is a security issue, everyone plays with friends we know, but soon friend of friends, and then its off to the races at the third iteration of this brings in someone that the 2nd friend doesn't really know, then its all drama. its a issue that while is unlikely and typically focused on a T25 or T100 being shared, why even open up the possibility that it could happen? And for such little money to altogether avoid it, and moar chips is good!

Good points, thanks. I misunderstood your comment about the $ sign. Yes the chips will read .25c, on the inlay, I just don’t know how to type the cents sign. Agree the $ sign on the chip would look silly.

Also fair point about friends of friends, I just thought that if the tourney stacks were cash equivalent then there was no security concern bc money into bank equals chips out to players same as a cash game. Maybe I will get a dedicated tourney set in future but for now I was liking the flexibility to use it for both.

I’m also thinking about just ditching the dimes altogether and going with the below set which focuses more on .25/.50 down the road than .10/.10 now. I know a $20 buyin for .25/.25 is a bit light at 80BB, but seems like some folks on here play that and it works just fine and wouldnt be much of a jump from our current $20-$40 a night tourney budget that guys are used to.

.25 x 160
$1 x 200
$5 x 200
$20 x 40
Bank $2,040

 

[Machine]

If you are playing 2 x $20 a night, .10/.10 is a great spread, a friend host this game, and not often enough. Of course 'This ain't Texas, there's no holdem' we're playing circus games.

You can always encourage $10 buy ins with $10 rebuys, to keep some of the more action prone people to play longer.

I have over bought fracs, to the tune of 300, you'll never need more than 100, especially if you move up to .25 as your lowest denom. but hey, sometimes we have to learn our own lessons =) I know I sure did.

 

[Baron_Von_Chipper]

More good info, thanks. I do like the idea of a .10/.10 game as it seems like it could be a really friendly / social game to try and get my home tourney crew into mixing in some cash games.

 

[Labrat]

Yes the chips will read .25c, on the inlay, I just don’t know how to type the cents sign.

Can I make the suggestion that if you’re using the cents sign, get rid of the decimal. Otherwise you’re going to have smartasses asking if that chip is really only worth a quarter of a cent.

 

[TheRealStephen12]

Can I make the suggestion that if you’re using the cents sign, get rid of the decimal. Otherwise you’re going to have smartasses asking if that chip is really only worth a quarter of a cent.

What did you call me?

 

[Labrat]

What did you call me?

I’ve got six of you at my table every time.

 

[KingZilla]

If you are playing 2 x $20 a night, .10/.10 is a great spread, a friend host this game, and not often enough. Of course 'This ain't Texas, there's no holdem' we're playing circus games.

You can always encourage $10 buy ins with $10 rebuys, to keep some of the more action prone people to play longer.

I have over bought fracs, to the tune of 300, you'll never need more than 100, especially if you move up to .25 as your lowest denom. but hey, sometimes we have to learn our own lessons =) I know I sure did.

Perhaps this is a good candidate for use of an "AV" (or "X" or whatever) chip in the set? Machine knows what I'm talking about, but for @Baron_Von_Chipper it means instead of a 10¢ chip you label it "AV" which means Assigned Value to use as whatever value you designate that chip to be. All other chips are denominated, so it's not difficult to incorporate into the game. AV then becomes your 10¢ chip or whatever you want it to be. Just one rack of "AV" chips should suffice to add flexibility to the set. On the label use AV or X or whatever you desire to make it stand out from the other denoms.
@Baron_Von_Chipper :
If you want to type a "¢" character do this:
Hold down the Alt key and using the number pad, press 0162 then release Alt. Voila, you have ¢
Good Luck with your project!

 

[LeLe]

If you willing to consider uping the game to 25/25c stake with $20 buyin, eventually upping to $25-50 buyin.

The following breakdown will fit your needs perfectly

20-player T.25-base tourney set (8/8/8/x):
160 x T.25
160 x T1
180 x T5
100 x T20 (or T25)
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600 chips

Can be used for actual-cash-value tournaments, or as a single-table cash set (where $100 bills can play if necessary).