SixSpeedFury
Full House
First thing I learned about chips was the word "need" has no meaning.
Ain't that the truth lol.
First thing I learned about chips was the word "need" has no meaning.
For a 25c/50c cash game with $20 buy-in, what denoms do you guys normally start with? I asked this question in another thread and the consensus was 25c, $1 and $5 chips work.
For example, I have 8 players, maybe 2-4 re-buys so total pot could be $240. I assume the blinds would increase but I'm still trying to work this out (maybe 25c/50c to 50c/75c, I dont know).
I'm trying to buy a new chip set and am not sure how many chips of each of these 3 denoms I need. TY.
Why are you increasing to blinds? If that's the case, wouldn't it be better to play a tournament style instead of a cash game?
Everyone waaaay prefers cash games, and the reason we up the blinds is to accelerate the game so that there are only 3 players are left standing (so someone wins a decent amount), vs the pot being distributed among 7-8 players.
Tournaments have been less popular because winner takes all, for a half the evening half the players are out of the game and cant participate, and there is too much pressure towards the end when the blinds get raised and its less fun for some folks.
I guess we play a hybrid.
Are you saying that in traditional cash games that blinds never get raised?
Also, if we do a 25c/50c cash game with $20 buy-in, is a 40BB starting stack too little?
^ That ^I wouldn't hate it, but i much prefer just quarters
Yeah, ive never played a cash game with blinds rising ... i have played cash games with antes, but never rising blinds.
As for the 25c/50c cash game with $20 buy-in, agreed that the 40BB starting stack too little, so make it 25c/25c blinds.
25c/25c blinds is what i play with my low limit friends. Works out pretty well.
Would players become looser with their hands?
To help players be come looser with thier hands, i give each player a 5 dollar chip.
Once that 5 dollar chip hits the felt, things get "serious" and more monies is shoved into the pot to get that 5 dollar chip.
My usual break down for starting stacks are:
20 x 25cents
10 x 1 dollars
1 x 5 dollars
ReBuys can be in 5s or 1s depending on the mood that night, but having a 5 dollar chip in front of each player does something to them.
I've never thought about making it 25c/25c. With 80 BBs vs a 40 BB starting stack in a $20 cash game, how would be progression of the game change? Would there be more players left standing at the end of the night. Someone mentioned less of a shove fest? Would players become looser with their hands?
I guess I'm just trying to understand why a 80BB starting stack would be more fun or offer better game play vs a 40 BB starting stack.
I've never thought about making it 25c/25c. With 80 BBs vs a 40 BB starting stack in a $20 cash game, how would be progression of the game change? Would there be more players left standing at the end of the night. Someone mentioned less of a shove fest? Would players become looser with their hands?
I guess I'm just trying to understand why a 80BB starting stack would be more fun or offer better game play vs a 40 BB starting stack.
So totals for my new set:
160 X 25c chips needed (so buy 200)
140 X $1 chips (so buy 175)
12 X $5 chips (so buy 25)
Usually blinds dont increase in a cash game, but feel free to do whatever your groups like. As Weckedy also said, for a 20$ buyin game .25/.25 blinds should work better. (standard starting stack for cashgames is somewhere around 100bbs)
The reason why a 80bb stack is more fun is that hands are allowed to play out a bit more interestingly. There are more room to make bluffs, there are more room to bet/fold or raise/fold, as opposed to playing short stack where at some point if you raise you are already commited to the pot and have to get all your chips in regardless. Lets say you have two players both flop top pair with a stack of 20bbs in a pot that was raised preflop. lets say the pot is already 6$ and there are four players. everyone started with 20bb before the hand, so if someone bets 5$ into this pot he is almost already pot commited regardless of his hand as he will only have 13.5$ left. I can imagine short stacks like these tend to get allin on the flop and the turn, and thereby removing play completely from the river and often also the turn. If on the other hand you had double the stack (or half the blinds) you would more often have desiccions and play on the turn/river and the gameplay would be more fun IMO.
Yeah, your break down looks good to me.
My own cash sets always consists of at least 200 x 25cents, 200 x 1dollars, 200 x 5 dollars.
This makes sense, thank you. What if I up the buy-in to $25, so that its a 50 BB game. Is that acceptable?
Well, its really just up to you. Of course if you enjoy playing a bit short stacked (many people do) then its fine. The most important thing is that you guys enjoy the game. If it were my game I would just play .25/.25 to be a bit deeper, but it just depends on the group of players and what you guys prefer. If you think your game will get to slow and boring with .25/.25 only then you should do .25/.50 as you are used to. If you are not sure you could just try it for a night and see how it evolves. Might also take a bit of time to adapt to deeper stacked play if your group is not used to it
My weekly game is .05/.10 with $20 buy ins. I have no problem getting to 8 buy-ins in a single night if I'm running bad. That's 200bb starting stacks, and 1600bb total buyins from just one person. It's more challenging and interesting to play deep to me.
It's an awesome game because everyone plays to win, it plays deep, and we play mixed games. A lot of people in the game find 2-3 buy ins is a lot of their entertainment budget, so they are extra motivated to win.This would be fun on occasion. I don't think I would want to play this on a regular basis. Could be a great night of drunken poker........hmmmmmmmmm
Everyone waaaay prefers cash games, and the reason we up the blinds is to accelerate the game so that there are only 3 players are left standing (so someone wins a decent amount), vs the pot being distributed among 7-8 players.
Are you saying that in traditional cash games that blinds never get raised?
Would there be more players left standing at the end of the night.
My weekly game is .05/.10 with $20 buy ins. I have no problem getting to 8 buy-ins in a single night if I'm running bad. That's 200bb starting stacks, and 1600bb total buyins from just one person. It's more challenging and interesting to play deep to me.
For a 25c/50c cash game with $20 buy-in, what denoms do you guys normally start with?
I tried this, but the small change made people play almost every hand, even when raises were 10x the big blind.
My main point is, I started out with small (small) games, but my poker evolved as I got better and more experienced. The $.05/.10 games won't hold the same appeal, and you'll start playing better people to challenge yourself. Or, in my case, my old buddies (that I'd played quarters with for 20 years) started to prefer not to play with me as much, since I got much better than them. It became a tad less fun for all, as they wouldn't win as much, and I'd go into tilt while my one buddy finishes telling a 4 minute fishing tale while we wait for him to deal...
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I was gonna comment on this in JSD's thread last week but never did... In a cash game, I'd rather play against a large stack... I mean he's got all the dough right? Let em bully you with his J pair and WHAP, 3s full of 6, bam!The game played as normal. You'd think the big stack might be able to push people around, and normally I'd say there's some advantage to his stack, but in reality, he had a horseshoe stuck up his butt.
I was gonna comment on this in JSD's thread last week but never did... In a cash game, I'd rather play against a large stack... I mean he's got all the dough right? Let em bully you with his J pair and WHAP, 3s full of 6, bam!