2017 Custom Chip Hall of Fame Voting (1 Viewer)

[Mr Tree]

One more week to vote! A couple of sets have taken off but the last set is very much in play still.

 

[pltrgyst]

My top nine picks are all in the top nine. That's all I'm willing to reveal.

Well, I'm your polar opposite.

All these polls show me is how out-of-step I am with the chip masses. There are sets in there that I wouldn't take as gifts.

 

[Toby]

There are sets in there that I wouldn't take as gifts

Which ones?

Before you answer we might want to open a thread in the Politics forum.

If anyone wants to gift me any/all of these sets, I won't turn you away!

 

[pltrgyst]

Which ones?

I would never answer that. At least in public. :

But I suspect that most of us have stylistic principles that determine our favorites. Otherwise, we'd all be after the same chips. For example, there are people who don't like the Duy's Palace chips, or other highly sought sets already in the HoF. Different strokes, and all that...

 

[dew4au]

But I suspect that most of us have stylistic principles that determine our favorites. Otherwise, we'd all be after the same chips.

Exactly. There are at least two sets nominated that I really don't like. I love a few of the nominees, really like most of them, but the two.... Day ugly... It all comes down to your stylistic preferences.

 

[pltrgyst]

I will say this, though: I am somewhat shocked at the lack of appreciation for the Bee Room chips.

We're voting on Hall of Fame *sets* here, and IMO there should be more qualifications than just prettiness. Otherwise, a pretty sample set would qualify.

The Bee Room is a *massive* set, perfectly designed for its limit poker application. It's name is cleverly associated with its owner and the game. To me, it absolutely defines the phrase "elegant simplicity".

(Plus I've played with it, so I'm prejudiced.)

 

[12thMan]

We're voting on Hall of Fame *sets* here, and IMO there should be more qualifications than just prettiness.

Personally I feel this way as well and it's how I vote now, size of the set makes a big difference to me. I'm a glutton, I want thousands of chips in the sets I own if I can even if I don't need them (I don't talk much about the stuff I have, but I know for sure I have the biggest set of a certain casino based on ovo's thread, well, at least out of members who are willing to post numbers), part of it is simply the way three birdcages looked stacked next to each other, I think it looks sexy. : Take the Boulevard chips fore instance, I voted them for the Hall of Fame and think they are one of the nicest and best executed customs I've seen, and they 100% deserve to be in the HoF, but when I found out later that the total number of chips in the set was something like 300 I remember thinking how that would have changed my vote. (it would not have changed them getting in obviously and still doesn't have an effect on my opinion of the chips themselves, but if I would have bought that set an add on would be 100% necessary for me)

I'm happy with my votes even though all 3 don't look like they are going to get in, and even though everybody has different opinions I think this is definitely a strong class and everybody involved did a hell of a job. For me there is one LOL'sy one in the bunch, but I'm sure it's the same set that is some one else's favorite. That's the best thing about a HoF type situation like this, when it's all said and done it's very cool to look at the ones that are in it as a group and go "whoa, that's a bunch of bad ass chips.".

 

[slisk250]

I will say this, though: I am somewhat shocked at the lack of appreciation for the Bee Room chips.

We're voting on Hall of Fame *sets* here, and IMO there should be more qualifications than just prettiness. Otherwise, a pretty sample set would qualify.

The Bee Room is a *massive* set, perfectly designed for its limit poker application. It's name is cleverly associated with its owner and the game. To me, it absolutely defines the phrase "elegant simplicity".

(Plus I've played with it, so I'm prejudiced.)

I agree that the Bee Room chips are great. I also think that the history of some pioneer sets will be lost on the newer PCF base that is growing. I think in the case of the Bees, they may never get in as the number of great new CPC sets using the available spots/colors plus the backlog of BCC greatness get their chance.

 

[courage]

Some really great sets here. Well done, HoF committee.

Just sad to see Contreras Landa languishing again. Inexplicable. :

 

[Phantom]

I think the Silver Dust Casino is the essence of what HOF means. It has stood the test of time, even with all the newer sets coming out. It is a brilliant theme and is executed wonderfully well to bring a real old-world feel. The colours and spot patterns are awesome, as are the inlays. The size of the set is epic as it can span several games, stakes and tastes. It is that player that backs up every season, plays through the pain and contributes to the team over a long career. That BCC are gone, makes them all the more special as we will never see the likes again. I believe any HOF is about honouring longevity, skill and determination, not temporary interest or recent success. I am very pleased to see it running so well and it will have deserved its place in the HOF. Good show @toad94 .

 

[Lucky Dog]

I have a hard time understanding how Silver Dust Casino wasn't an instant unanimous first ballet entry into the HOF. I have seen a few sets that might be considered equal but nothing better in my opinion.

 

[12thMan]

Silver Dust is insane and I'm happy it's getting in, also very happy to see Steel City making a come back!!!

 

[slisk250]

I have a hard time understanding how Silver Dust Casino wasn't an instant unanimous first ballet entry into the HOF. I have seen a few sets that might be considered equal but nothing better in my opinion.

Silver Dust was the bridesmaid last year I believe. Ther are some sets in the HOF that I would not vote for. I'm sure everyone has a similar experience.

 

[toad94]

Thank you for the very kind words, everyone. I can't express how humbled I am to be honored by a bunch of awesome chip nuts like this community here.

 

[bivey]

Thank you for the very kind words, everyone. I can't express how humbled I am to be honored by a bunch of awesome chip nuts like this community here.

You deserve it.

 

[jbutler]

Personally I feel this way as well and it's how I vote now, size of the set makes a big difference to me. I'm a glutton, I want thousands of chips in the sets I own if I can even if I don't need them (I don't talk much about the stuff I have, but I know for sure I have the biggest set of a certain casino based on ovo's thread, well, at least out of members who are willing to post numbers), part of it is simply the way three birdcages looked stacked next to each other, I think it looks sexy. : Take the Boulevard chips fore instance, I voted them for the Hall of Fame and think they are one of the nicest and best executed customs I've seen, and they 100% deserve to be in the HoF, but when I found out later that the total number of chips in the set was something like 300 I remember thinking how that would have changed my vote.

Definitely agree with this. Although I try to take into account the intended purpose of the set. So a set designed to serve a single table tournament wouldn't get docked any points for me personally because it's only 300 or 400 chips, but a cash set of that size would have to be extraordinary in every other way for me to consider it.

...also very happy to see Steel City making a come back!!!

Could not agree more. While I'm continually disappointed in the poor performance of the Contreras Landa set in these polls, Steel City shows that an older set by an inactive member can still make it to (or near) the top.

 

[pltrgyst]

Yeah, Steel City and Contreras Landa got two of my votes as well.

It's pretty obvious that C-L suffers from the recently metastacized clay-chips-only fervor, to the point where brilliantly executed themes on ceramics can run behind even primitive hot-stamps...

There's a remarkable parallel here -- Chip politics aren't all that much different from real politics, are they?

 

[Jeff]

Yeah, Steel City and Contreras Landa got two of my votes as well.

It's pretty obvious that C-L suffers from the recently metastacized clay-chips-only fervor, to the point where brilliantly executed themes on ceramics can run behind even primitive hot-stamps...

There's a remarkable parallel here -- Chip politics aren't all that much different from real politics, are they?

CLs are BCC with giant inlays. Clay chips with huge canvas for chip art. A rare bird given BCCs difficulty producing perfect inlays.

 

[jbutler]

I will say this, though: I am somewhat shocked at the lack of appreciation for the Bee Room chips.

We're voting on Hall of Fame *sets* here, and IMO there should be more qualifications than just prettiness. Otherwise, a pretty sample set would qualify.

The Bee Room is a *massive* set, perfectly designed for its limit poker application. It's name is cleverly associated with its owner and the game. To me, it absolutely defines the phrase "elegant simplicity".

(Plus I've played with it, so I'm prejudiced.)

Almost didn't post because I kind of want to stay positive and support sets rather than lobby against sets, but just for a different perspective, I'll explain that the Bee Room doesn't do it for me mostly on the basis of the new $10 and $100 chips. The new $100 is okay, though I prefer the old hundo by a lot. But the new $10 is pretty bad. If he had waited to do peacock instead of light blue I think the chip would have come out worlds better. But with those included the set suffers as a whole imo.

It also gets a huge boost due to the quantities and the proper design of the breakdown for its intended use. I guess an additional aspect of the size and usefulness being attributes as discussed above, knowing a set actually get used is a big plus for me personally. I guess I can't necessarily fault someone for not being able to have a game, but it still adds points to a set when I know they're on the felt regularly as intended.

In fairness, the set has more going for it in terms of design as well: I love the super simple spots on the original set (all 1/4" spots), the traditional colors, and the simple inlay, all of which speak to the utilitarian nature of the set. I do wish the honeycomb watermark was more visible, but really it's the $10 and $100 chips that hurt it for me.

 

[Mr Tree]

It's pretty obvious that C-L suffers from the recently metastacized clay-chips-only fervor, to the point where brilliantly executed themes on ceramics can run behind even primitive hot-stamps...

 

[Poker Zombie]

Could not agree more. While I'm continually disappointed in the poor performance of the Contreras Landa set in these polls, Steel City shows that an older set by an inactive member can still make it to (or near) the top.

Contreras suffer from Giant inlay syndrome. If I were to fault the HoF, it's because it is a straight-up favorites poll, which is more indicative of a People's Choice award (celebrating favorites) than a Hall of Fame (celebrating greatness - whatever that entails).

I know people aren't supposed to stump for their picks, but I almost wish each voter had to explain why they thought their picks are great. The HoF committee did just that, and the nominees are all great on some level. Unfortunately, the voters are left in largely in the dark except for a single blurb, which doesn't always convey why the set is great beyond "I think (set x) is great"

...and I question how many voters even look at more than just the photos.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I guess I can't necessarily fault someone for not being able to have a game, but it still adds points to a set when I know they're on the felt regularly as intended.

Please explain why a set gets extra points (in your book) because it is used more?

 

[Chippy McChiperson]

Almost didn't post because I kind of want to stay positive and support sets rather than lobby against sets, but just for a different perspective, I'll explain that the Bee Room doesn't do it for me mostly on the basis of the new $10 and $100 chips. The new $100 is okay, though I prefer the old hundo by a lot. But the new $10 is pretty bad. If he had waited to do peacock instead of light blue I think the chip would have come out worlds better. But with those included the set suffers as a whole imo.

It also gets a huge boost due to the quantities and the proper design of the breakdown for its intended use. I guess an additional aspect of the size and usefulness being attributes as discussed above, knowing a set actually get used is a big plus for me personally. I guess I can't necessarily fault someone for not being able to have a game, but it still adds points to a set when I know they're on the felt regularly as intended.

In fairness, the set has more going for it in terms of design as well: I love the super simple spots on the original set (all 1/4" spots), the traditional colors, and the simple inlay, all of which speak to the utilitarian nature of the set. I do wish the honeycomb watermark was more visible, but really it's the $10 and $100 chips that hurt it for me.

I love that light blue $10 personally

 

[jbutler]

Contreras suffer from Giant inlay syndrome. If I were to fault the HoF, it's because it is a straight-up favorites poll, which is more indicative of a People's Choice award (celebrating favorites) than a Hall of Fame (celebrating greatness - whatever that entails).

I know people aren't supposed to stump for their picks, but I almost wish each voter had to explain why they thought their picks are great. The HoF committee did just that, and the nominees are all great on some level. Unfortunately, the voters are left in largely in the dark except for a single blurb, which doesn't always convey why the set is great beyond "I think (set x) is great"

...and I question how many voters even look at more than just the photos.

I don't know if Giant Inlay Syndrome is a real thing given the set that was voted best custom set of all time (Duy's Palace) is a giant inlay BCC set. And I don't think it's reasonable to expect others to use any other qualifications than they want when choosing how to vote. If they want to look at the photos only, that's their prerogative. If they want to know the biographical facts of the creator that drove a certain design or whatever, that's fine too.

Please explain why a set gets extra points (in your book) because it is used more?

Because poker chip sets are made to be used.

 

[pltrgyst]

CLs are BCC with giant inlays. Clay chips with huge canvas for chip art. A rare bird given BCCs difficulty producing perfect inlays.

Yeah, I know that -- but I think that all the giant inlay chips are suffering as a creeping side effect of the loss of affection for ceramics. Even the Vineyards....

 

[krafticus]

I've had the pleasure of playing on the Steel City chips once. it is a great set for sure. of course, I ran my 69 into 44 on a 694 flop. Crissman had me covered by less than 1k. still stings years later.

Mark

 

[pltrgyst]

.... I'll explain that the Bee Room doesn't do it for me mostly on the basis of the new $10 and $100 chips....

That's an entirely new wrinkle on set evaluation, though. The original huge set was great, worthy of the HoF as it was. But adding two new denoms years after the set was created somehow adds a negative valuation?

I view the addition more as being similar to someone adding plaques to an existing set. I don't think it would change my opinion of the set as it was created. Ymmv, and has, of course. :

 

[Mr Tree]

I've had the pleasure of playing on the Steel City chips once. it is a great set for sure. of course, I ran my 69 into 44 on a 694 flop. Crissman had me covered by less than 1k. still stings years later.

Mark

Poker sucks

 

[Poker Zombie]

I don't think it's reasonable to expect others to use any other qualifications than they want when choosing how to vote. If they want to look at the photos only, that's their prerogative. If they want to know the biographical facts of the creator that drove a certain design or whatever, that's fine too.

It's their prerogative, sure. But if there was more discussion about the "why" of the vote, I suspect there would be a lot of different votes. For example, earlier I had mentioned why Clermont Lounge was a great set, and soon after they enjoyed a spike in votes (perhaps related, perhaps not). Now, into the 4th page (and TLDR status) they languish again, and I see comments like "I wouldn't take that set if you gave it to me" (perhaps made about the only HS chips/only solids, perhaps not).

The point is, if people were required to "show their work" we would probablly get fewer votes overall, but those votes would be educated, meaningful votes.

And I'm sorry if I offend anyone by inferring that their lack of research into a chip means that their vote means less. But if you are still reading this thread, then you actually are interested in more than the quality of a photograph and the offensive statement does not pertain to you.

 

[Mr Tree]

It's their prerogative, sure. But if there was more discussion about the "why" of the vote, I suspect there would be a lot of different votes. For example, earlier I had mentioned why Clermont Lounge was a great set, and soon after they enjoyed a spike in votes (perhaps related, perhaps not). Now, into the 4th page (and TLDR status) they languish again, and I see comments like "I wouldn't take that set if you gave it to me" (perhaps made about the only HS chips/only solids, perhaps not).

The point is, if people were required to "show their work" we would probablly get fewer votes overall, but those votes would be educated, meaningful votes.

And I'm sorry if I offend anyone by inferring that their lack of research into a chip means that their vote means less. But if you are still reading this thread, then you actually are interested in more than the quality of a photograph and the offensive statement does not pertain to you.

Solid hot stamps suck.