By the way, if you have ever wondered if we are the biggest bunch of nerds on the planet, the last couple pages of this thread should remove all doubt.
Nerdism has a multiplicative effect. Say the normal non-nerd person has a nerd quotient of 1.0. And in a group of say, three, the nerdism quotient is still 1.0 (1.0*1.0*1.0). However, in a group of say only 10% nerd above average (nerd quotient 1.1), it can be get very nerdy very quickly. A group of just three 1.10 quotient nerds can result in a group average nerd quotient of more than 1.33 (1.1*1.1*1.1). Each individual person in that group is now over 30% nerdier than the average person. Naturally, this forum is a showcase in the exponential effects of this phenomenon.By the way, if you have ever wondered if we are the biggest bunch of nerds on the planet, the last couple pages of this thread should remove all doubt.
By the way, if you have ever wondered if we are the biggest bunch of nerds on the planet, the last couple pages of this thread should remove all doubt.
Using @foreverdev's numbers substantiates my hypothesis.I did it with AI
WSOP MAIN EVENT — FINAL HAND BOARD RUNOUTS
Card Frequency · 1972–2025 · 54 Finals
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Card × % of finals
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4♣ ×13 24.1%
2♣ ×11 20.4%
5♥ × 9 16.7%
Q♣ × 9 16.7%
T♣ × 9 16.7%
5♦ × 8 14.8%
8♠ × 8 14.8%
9♣ × 8 14.8%
K♦ × 8 14.8%
2♦ × 7 13.0%
5♠ × 7 13.0%
5♣ × 7 13.0%
8♣ × 7 13.0%
2♥ × 6 11.1%
3♥ × 6 11.1%
7♦ × 6 11.1%
9♥ × 6 11.1%
J♠ × 6 11.1%
Q♠ × 6 11.1%
T♥ × 6 11.1%
T♦ × 6 11.1%
2♠ × 5 9.3%
3♦ × 5 9.3%
4♦ × 5 9.3%
6♠ × 5 9.3%
6♣ × 5 9.3%
8♥ × 5 9.3%
9♦ × 5 9.3%
3♣ × 4 7.4%
4♠ × 4 7.4%
6♥ × 4 7.4%
6♦ × 4 7.4%
8♦ × 4 7.4%
9♠ × 4 7.4%
A♣ × 4 7.4%
K♣ × 4 7.4%
3♠ × 3 5.6%
4♥ × 3 5.6%
7♠ × 3 5.6%
7♣ × 3 5.6%
7♥ × 3 5.6%
A♦ × 3 5.6%
J♥ × 3 5.6%
J♦ × 3 5.6%
K♠ × 3 5.6%
K♥ × 3 5.6%
A♥ × 2 3.7%
J♣ × 2 3.7%
Q♥ × 2 3.7%
T♠ × 2 3.7%
A♠ × 1 1.9%
Q♦ × 1 1.9%
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Total known cards : 266
Finals counted : 54 (1972–2025)
Expected per card : 5.1 apps (~9.5%)
Note: 1972 suits partially unknown
my theory is that low and middle cards are more likely to hit the board, because the players are more likely to hold better cards in their hand.
Your honor, the prosecution rests.Nerdism has a multiplicative effect. Say the normal non-nerd person has a nerd quotient of 1.0. And in a group of say, three, the nerdism quotient is still 1.0 (1.0*1.0*1.0). However, in a group of say only 10% nerd above average (nerd quotient 1.1), it can be get very nerdy very quickly. A group of just three 1.10 quotient nerds can result in a group average nerd quotient of more than 1.33 (1.1*1.1*1.1). Each individual person in that group is now over 30% nerdier than the average person. Naturally, this forum is a showcase in the exponential effects of this phenomenon.
Should I open the Last Longer bet now?Damn, I missed out on a fun thread. This was a great idea, @WedgeRock
Yes, undoubtedly . I stopped myself from going even further with the stats but 2-5 is far over represented.![]()
Using @foreverdev's numbers substantiates my hypothesis.
2-6: 13+11+9+8+7+7+7+6+6+5+5+5+5+5+4+4+4+4+3+3 = 121 for 20 cards = 6.05 times per card (45.5%)
7-T: 9+8+8+7+6+6+6+6+5+5+4+4+3+3+3+2 = 85 for 16 cards = 5.3125 times per card (32.0%)
J-A: 9+8+6+6+4+4+3+3+3+3+3+2+2+2+1+1 = 60 times for 16 cards = 3.75 times per card (22.6%)
I'll sell you my 2♣ for $120!Damn, I missed out on a fun thread. This was a great idea, @WedgeRock
Now we need the actuarial value of every card and turn this into a deal or no deal game to see who cashed out.I'll sell you my 2♣ for $120!
(You laugh now but when you see the river don't tell me I didn't give you a chance)
Not sure I'm that big of a prop bet degenerate... but maybe? lolShould I open the Last Longer bet now?
I'm waiting for the structure sheet of the 2026 Main Event to be released, but essentially, after Day 5 or 6, I'll randomly assign the top 27 stacks left in the WSOP to PCFers. Top 5 get paid? NOT OPEN YET. DON'T START POSTING ENTRIES. THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE THREAD.
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