Chips that Go Missing (1 Viewer)

[Willy Gee]

For that last two years, I've played in a holiday game with some folks I know pretty well and some that I don't know at all. We used my Cascade Lanes chips. Last year, one $1 chip disappeared. This year, another two vanished. In your experience, do folks steal chips? I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but I haven't had this experience in other games where my chips were used. However, I usually know the players very well.

In all fairness, I had to drive 250 miles with the chips in my car. Lots of opportunities to lose some, but I keep them in a birdcage. I can't see how I could've dropped one. And I counted them myself and put them in racks before they left my house.

Chips pictured below.

 

[Frogzilla]

Did u end up with an extra $2 in the bank?

 

[PlaidDragon]

Sounds like some of your players harvested a sample.

Likely from those who you didn’t know so well?

 

[Rhodeman77]

^^^^ this. If you are keeping track of your bank exactly you will know if someone took the chips as a souvenir.

 

[surfik]

Yeah, that's a sweet set. I am jealous. Maybe your friends are jealous too.

 

[JustinInMN]

Hasn't happened to me yet, but I did order a few spares just in case. But yes, if you watch the bank, you know when it happens.

 

[WedgeRock]

Drop me a PM. I think I have extra of those chips.

 

[Saoliver]

I sold my set, but I think that I have one chip that was a spare.

 

[Moxie Mike]

I've heard of it happening. Personally, I've never had anyone pocket a chip from my cash games but I noticed about 3 months ago that I'm missing a single 5k chip from my tournament set. I don't know exactly when it went missing - I first discovered this when I washed my tournament set after a year of use.

What happened to it? Who knows? It might have gotten lost somehow - or maybe someone pocketed it with the intention or putting it back into play at a later game - however that's unlikely since the chip is still missing. That, and I don't believe we have a thief among us in our group.

So it's just something that bugs me more than anything else.

 

[davin]

Have a look under the rail, I’ve had one get stuck under there on my old table!!! Problem
Solved when I got a chan man table this never happened

 

[Mac128k]

It happened to me with a relabeled Terrible’s 50 cent

 

[DoubleEagle]

In twenty years of hosting, never had a missing chip.

 

[Justin Olson]

Might be really silly, but let them know "Please No Souvenirs"

 

[Willy Gee]

Thanks for the replies. Good point about the bank. A few complications. First, I did not stay for the entire game. I went to stay with relatives but the game continued. Second, the host employed a dealer who worked for tips. Third, it was a 1/2 game but folks were buying in for $400 and $500. Lots of $100s and $20s in the bank, but very few small bills. I suspect that, when players cashed out, they accepted $340 in cash for $342 in chips, with the apparent assumption that the difference went to the dealer. I wasn't there at he end, so don't know how it all went down, which probably is the biggest part of the problem.

I am annoyed right now and will definitely be reluctant to bring chips to a game I am not hosting. Lesson learned.

 

[JMC9389]

It sounds nuts, but no one is allowed to leave my home game until all cards and chips are accounted for and the bank is reconciled.

*knock on wood* Haven't had anything disappear on me yet.

 

[RocAFella1]

It sounds nuts, but no one is allowed to leave my home game until all cards and chips are accounted for and the bank is reconciled.

*knock on wood* Haven't had anything disappear on me yet.

What about people who cash out and leave early?

 

[Mr Winberg]

Haven't had anything disappear on me yet.

Except regs... Just kidding of course! I'm also curious how you handle early cash out, though.

 

[detroitdad]

It sounds nuts, but no one is allowed to leave my home game until all cards and chips are accounted for and the bank is reconciled.

*knock on wood* Haven't had anything disappear on me yet.

That sounds kind of ridiculous. What if I lose all my money at 1030. I have to sit there until the game is over and everything is accounted for? What if I say screw it, I'm out of here. Do I get banned?

 

[JMC9389]

Except regs... Just kidding of course! I'm also curious how you handle early cash out, though.

What about people who cash out and leave early?

In a cash game, we will usually reload or buy back in throughout the night until we agree to stop for the night (usually between 12 and 1am). Hardly do people leave early. If they do, they get cashed out as normal.

Even in a tournament, those that get bounced early stick around to deal, play foosball/pool/ping pong, play video games, watch TV, or just shoot the shit until the tournament is over.

 

[detroitdad]

In a cash game, we will usually reload or buy back in throughout the night until we agree to stop for the night (usually between 12 and 1am). Hardly do people leave early. If they do, they get cashed out as normal.

Even in a tournament, those that get bounced early stick around to deal, play foosball/pool/ping pong, play video games, watch TV, or just shoot the shit until the tournament is over.

cool. For me, when I get knocked out of a tourney. I'm staying to play cash, or heading home for a decent nights sleep (I'm usually out early lol).

 

[JMC9389]

That sounds kind of ridiculous. What if I lose all my money at 1030. I have to sit there until the game is over and everything is accounted for? What if I say screw it, I'm out of here. Do I get banned?

See my response above. Very rarely does someone leave early, but if they do, they get cashed out as normal.

At the end of the night, we re-rack the chips and count the cards regardless of who's left. I've never had to ban anyone over theft or any other reason, but I have stopped inviting a couple of people for berating fish or otherwise various forms of douchebaggery.

If the situation comes up and I'm short a chip or two, I'd ask nicely for the chip (s) to be returned, or that I won't be hosting again until the chips are returned.

 

[JMC9389]

cool. For me, when I get knocked out of a tourney. I'm staying to play cash, or heading home for a decent nights sleep (I'm usually out early lol).

Don't blame you one bit. Most of us are pretty close friends and will hang around even if not playing for the social aspect of it.

 

[Coyote]

A careful (and sober) cash-out for every player is the key.
Also, I never understood the same-evening tourney AND cash concept. Even if I had the room for such debauchery, it could give me a brain stroke, as a host / banker / organiser.
People eliminated from a home tourney should just be allowed to sink in whisky.

 

[markleteenie]

Yeah I had a few chips spill one time and it took forever to find a $1 that rolled away. Also I was at a tournament recently where someone put chips in their pocket during the table move and didn't realize they didn't pull all of them out until the host figured out a chip was missing during color ups. It got figured out so no harm.

But yeah so many things could have happened. Sorry.

 

[WedgeRock]

I suspect that, when players cashed out, they accepted $340 in cash for $342 in chips

This I plausible...but most home game players don't appreciate good chips (the kind of person that would be tempted to pocket an extra chip at cash out). They see them all as variations of dice chips.

I would hope anyone that can appreciate your chips also realizes how badnit is to short a rack. I *hope* you lost/dropped them, but the end result is still the same.

 

[WedgeRock]

Drop me a PM. I think I have extra of those chips.

False alarm. IIRC, I shipped them to @NotABot when he wanted to get a feel for Bud Jones chips.

 

[BGinGA]

I've heard of it happening. Personally, I've never had anyone pocket a chip from my cash games but I noticed about 3 months ago that I'm missing a single 5k chip from my tournament set. I don't know exactly when it went missing - I first discovered this when I washed my tournament set after a year of use.

I've had a chip go missing twice in 15 years of hosting tournaments.

First time I was hosting remote (another couple's house), and a $100 chip turned up missing at evening's end. A relatively quick search discovered it five feet away under the couch, presumably dropped and either rolled away from the table, or was a great unseen slap shot by their cat.

The second disappearance was a mint ES T5000 chip, same location, same circumstances -- discovered missing at closing rack-up. We looked for over an hour, in every conceivable location (including the cat's quarters upstairs). Not to be found, and was totally bummed and confused as to where it could have gone. We continued to look for it on subsequent tournament dates for the next two months, to no avail.

Interestingly, that particular event was also the night that we actually paused the tournament while paramedics were called to attend to one of the players -- he suffered a seizure during his action. We initially thought he was tanking, then realized he may be having a stroke.... but he snapped out of it after about five minutes and was perfectly fine (and promptly called the bet, lol). So we thought one of the paramedics might have taken a souvenir, since they treated him while still seated at the poker table.

But alas, the chip showed up at another tournament three months later, when one of the semi-regular gals dug it out of her purse and flipped it onto the table during her buy-in. Unknowingly at the time, it had fallen out of her hand and into her open purse three months earlier while moving to the final table during consolidation.... she found it a few days later, and this was the first time she'd been back. It took a real beating in that purse for three months, too -- it is sadly no longer mint, and has been retired.

 

[Coyote]

On this note, I have to admit that in 30 years of hosting single table games, the only chip I temporarily lost was a green dice chip, many years ago, only to discover it under the chest, some months later

 

[tabletalker7]

On this note, I have to admit that in 30 years of hosting single table games, the only chip I temporarily lost was a green dice chip, many years ago, only to discover it under the chest, some months later

Honest question - Does losing a dice chip actually count as a loss?

 

[Coyote]

Honest question - Does losing a dice chip actually count as a loss?

It does, when you 're just out of the (compulsory) Army service, with just a University degree, and broke
Edit At any rate, it's about f*ckin game integrity, anyway