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So, title kind of sums this up.

I am fat and out of shape. My car is a gas guzzler (on a good week , I get 15 mpg and 230 miles per tank). My office is now 6.5 miles from home, and I can take back roads (non-major highways) to and from. Also just found out that the building has a shower, as I am known to sweat walking to my car in the dead of winter.

I haven't owned a bicycle in 20 years, and have no idea what I should be looking for. Do I go with a road bike, a mountain bike (there are a bunch of single track places near my house, but they look tough), or a hybrid of some sort?

I know there are a lot of bikers on the forum. Budget .. probably around $500 or less for now. I don't plan on entering any races any time soon.

Thoughts, ideas?

Mark
 
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For a 6.5 mile commute any bike will do. I would look for a hybrid or better yet a commuter or city bike. They are usually 5-900 new but if that's too much then Craig's list is your friend. You want a flat handlebar bike with wider tires but maybe not mountain bike wide. Avoid nighttime and bad weather riding until you have experience and appropriate gear. Bike stores are a great help in terms of selection and sizing but prepare for sticker shock.
 
This is right in my wheelhouse. I'll give a good well thought out response, when I'm not on my phone. :)
 
For $500 budget, avoid retail outlets like Walmart where the bikes are shitty and you won't get near your money back. Think of it as dice chips. PASS.

You're much better off getting used, avoid buying any bikes with any cracks in the frame. For me personally as a work commute bike I'd want to stick to road but given your short distance there is no shame going either way with road/mtn/hybrid, however you might want to think about how you'd want to use your bike on the weekends if your new hobby takes off. I rode my bike (~20 miles each way) to work daily for a year including most winterish days and found that I started doing 50-100 mile days on the weekend. Last 2 years aside, I've always been in shape and cycling has been my #1 for cardio, fat loss and energy gain off the field.

Cannondale/Trek are the brands I personally focus on although there are many greats out there. Looking at your neck of the woods and knowing your height, I'd go buy this assuming no issues on inspection:

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/6052871081.html

I've owned a CAAD (they release new versions with a number bump every year). Fantastic light bike and strong as bull. Cannondale is known for doing obscene things with aluminum that no other bike maker can achieve, so if you start going down a carbon path just know that Cannondale aluminum is up there. Not carbon obvs but seriously amazing value in strength and weight without dropping high 4 figures early 5 figures. You can buy a Cannondale CAADx carbon for $11K.

Because you are not fronting up huge moniez, you are reducing risk a lot and allowing yourself to gauge whether its a thing you will adopt. With this, just buy something with resale value. The cannondale noted above can get you your money back if you decide you don't like it. And if you use it for a couple months and lose $100 on resale, so what. CAADs have a fantastic reputation and its their Honda Civic road bike in terms of resale/dependency.

For pedals, I wouldn't ride without clipping in. Once you clip its an awful feeling to not go that route. Also, buy a repair kit that clips to your bike. It will have a spare tire tube and CO2 to snap fill as well as a chain repair tool for continued peddlin'.
 
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......I haven't owned a bicycle in 20 years, and have no idea what I should be looking for. Do I go with a road bike, a mountain bike (there are a bunch of single track places near my house, but they look tough), or a hybrid of some sort?.....

I was in a similar situation last year. Did a lot of research and ended up with Schwinn Discover Hybrid (got one for the wife also).
Solid bike with great features, under $300 if you shop around

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OK. weighing in. Understand my advice comes from a long history in the biking industry, as a consumer, racer, biking instructor, and even in product development. That said, take my advice with a grain of salt. My brain is buzzing about this, so my post might be scattered brained (apologies).

I'd caution you NOT to take advice that narrows you down to a specific brand or model. There's no doubt the bikes recommended are likely solid contenders, but the advice I give newbies is that it's much better to get a $400 bike that fits YOU great, than a $4000 bike that fits you OK. The other piece of advice is that you want a quality brand name (no huffy, murray, Walmart brands, etc...).

There are exceptions, for instance my wife has a $3000 Schwinn MTB that is solid quality, but I've seen Schwinn's in Walmart/Target that I'd consider junk. The adage that "you get what you pay for" is generally accurate with bikes in this price point. An exception would be with very high end bikes/components, where you spend double the price to bump to a better component, with minimal gains. I don't think this applies to you at this point anyway.

My advice to newbies is to head to their local bike shop (the biggest shop you can find will offer the best selection and likely better deals/sales). Small shops are awesome, but the pricing is usually indirectly proportionate to their size of inventory.

Then consider the psychology of the purchase. Most bike customers roll in, say "I want a $500 commuter", then take a couple bikes on a "test ride" around the parking lot, and say "this one feels good" and that's the extent of it. Bike shop employees might give you ok service and attention, but they realize that 90% of these bike customers will convert that bike into a clothes hanger within a year. This isn't a customer a bike shop employee is bound to get excited about.

To garner the best customer service, and to get the best bike, take the buying experience seriously. Bring biking clothes (shorts, etc...), and plan for a good hour+ in the shop. Walk in and explain to the employee that you want a bike for commuting, plan to ride this every day, and want a bike that will last you a lifetime. Explain to them that you want them to select out a few options in your price range, and that you intend to take EACH option for a 15+ minute test ride in the area. Understand, most competent bike shop employees KNOW that it takes at least that long for you to get uncomfortable on a bike, for you to feel what doesn't feel right about a particular bike's fit and geometry. This is the kind of buyer a bike shop employee gets excited about. They work at a bike shop because they like bikes, and if you just walk in and tool around the parking lot, they're gonna be like "meh"... Just like as if you worked at Spennetti's and someone walked in a said, I'd like some official casino weight chips please...

In addition to getting the better service, you'll actually walk away with a bike that fits you way better, and that will translate to less pain while riding, more enjoyable rides, and a slimmer you! Nobody continues to ride a bike that hurts them...

This is also a reason I'd caution against utilizing Craigslist or buying used. Sure, you might get a good deal, but you'd have to know what you're looking for. You might get a decent deal, but often times, it's not going to be the ideal size for you, and the fit might feel "ok" at first, but after 10 miles on the bike, you might regret the purchase. You might actually spend more in the long run... And be aware that not all frame cracks are easily seen by untrained eyes. You don't want to buy a bike that was involved in crash. Last summer, I had a trained cyclist come to my week long bike school, with a bike he asserted was "solid". He'd received the bike from his department. Upon my inspection, I noticed evidence of damage (indicative of a prior crash). We took the bike to a local shop for them to replace some of the broken components, and have it inspected by a proper mechanic. After $100 of repairs/parts, the bike was deemed good to ride, and later in the week, the rear derailer fell off the bike (major fail), another $180 fix. The derailer had sustained a crack in it (impossible to see upon inspection), which eventually failed. We can only surmise it was due to the prior crash. I later learned of the bike's involvement in a crash, and was told it had been inspected and cleared by their local mechanic (I strongly recommended they find a new mech).

Now, as to choosing between bike types... If your only use will be commuting (or tooling around the neighborhood or for some fitness rides), I'd look at hybrids. These are a cross between road bikes and mountain bikes. Their upright geometry is often better suited to newer riders (more comfortable). Granted, a hybrid can be taken on road rides, and likely some light trail rides, but does neither particularly well. When my wife started training with my triathlon team, I always advocated newbies just ride what they had, then figure out their needs/likes before dropping serious coin on a race bike. My wife had a hybrid, so I outfitted as best as I could to go fast... but 5 minutes into our first "group" team ride, my wife (just dating back then) got dropped. Yup, the very next day we were in the bike shop looking for a "fast" bike. (ps. I stayed with her on that group ride, obv).

I've also had friends come mountain biking with us, and bring their hybrids. I'm very receptive to new people joining in on activities (it's how interest grows), so I did my best to accommodate. Hybrid bikes are OK for crushed gravel trails, but they are not appropriate for trails with lots of obstacles (buried roots/rocks, and drop offs). One, most hybrids lack suspension (or their suspension is woafully inadequate). Two, off road trails can be brutal on frames/components not sturdy enough to handle them.

Most commuters I know ride bikes closer to road bike geometry and styling. These will get you to your destination faster, but road bikes have a difficult time on even the lightest of trails, and can be harsher on the body (albeit slightly).

Mountain bikes are going to be generally more comfortable to ride, with "plush" (god I hate that word) ride tendencies due to larger tires. But if you're looking to ride with others, understand you won't be as fast. The bikes will have the ability to ride singletrack trails though, which is a bonus if you're considering utilizing the bikes for recreational trail use, in addition to commuting.

Ultimately, this argument is one I've heard many times. Someone wants a do-all bike, and that's a very difficult proposition (it's why I have 10+ bikes in my garage at present). It's up to you to determine what you want in a bike. Go in educated, and make the best purchase possible, given you budget.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes! :)

w/ pics of course!
 
Wheh... just realized that ^^^^ took over an hour to write... lol. Get me talking about bike stuff is about as difficult as walking into a chip meetup and asking if someone wants to talk about minty Paulsons... :)

Also consider good lighting for whatever bike you get. Bike safety industry nowadays is really pushing for daytime running lights. The lights nowadays are cheaper and brighter than ever before. They make a huge difference to riding safety (on the roads).
 
Next bike I buy will 100% be the Pee Wee replica.

 
I'd try to find a road bike you're comfortable on. Even with a 6.5 mile commute, a mountain bike is all wrong. The wheels are heavier than they need to be, the tires are too wide (or god forbid knobbies) and the gearing is all wrong. A hybrid is a compromise, but in my mind that just makes them good for nothing. I guess it will all depend on how comfortable you can be with your position on a road bike and with drop bars. If you can't find one that feels right and you need something with a more upright position, modifications can be made. Or you can go with a hybrid. But the only way you'll figure all this out is at a GOOD BIKE SHOP. Find a good one with good people who want to help put you on the right bike. You'll pay a little more there, but you'll get better equipment there, and better service there, both in the short term and in the long term.
 
I've always gone with older, used bicycles and I've been very happy. Good quality bikes are built tough, and many are stored in garages for years without getting much use. With a bit of oil these bikes are still as good as new. Without knowing how tall you are, I've picked a few potentially nice options off of Craigslist. These should fit anyone in the neighborhood of 6'.

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/6084398837.html

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/6064465568.html

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/6073265359.html

https://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/6022772648.html

The second bike in the list is really suited for relatively flat terrain, and the fourth one is a somewhat taller frame. All four of these are steel frames, and are ~30 years old or more. With care, they should last another 30.

good luck!
 
I'd try to find a road bike you're comfortable on. Even with a 6.5 mile commute, a mountain bike is all wrong. The wheels are heavier than they need to be, the tires are too wide (or god forbid knobbies) and the gearing is all wrong. A hybrid is a compromise, but in my mind that just makes them good for nothing. I guess it will all depend on how comfortable you can be with your position on a road bike and with drop bars. If you can't find one that feels right and you need something with a more upright position, modifications can be made. Or you can go with a hybrid. But the only way you'll figure all this out is at a GOOD BIKE SHOP. Find a good one with good people who want to help put you on the right bike. You'll pay a little more there, but you'll get better equipment there, and better service there, both in the short term and in the long term.


A mountain bike CAN be outfitted with skinnier (more road appropriate) tires. I've seen MANY people take this route. However, it then loses some of it's functionality for off road applications. Ya, unless I was sure I wanted to hit those singletrack trails the OP mentioned (and I like MTBing), I'd lean towards other options..

For the record, my week long bike school, requires the use of MTBs exclusively, and the application is almost nearly all 100% on road (unless you count going up and down stairs). So a MTB can be used for commuting. A typical day on a MTB for me at work involves anywhere from 15-20 miles of riding.
 
At my second bike shop today. Rode a Trek FX3 from the large shop, and liked it. Again, I'm used to shocks and fat tires, so it was a little weird.

Trying a diamondback at this place, but not in love with it... getting it ready for a test ride to not judge the book by its cover.
 
I changed jobs 2 years ago and now work closer to home and started riding to work when the weather is nice enough. My commute is 8 miles each way. I had an old Trek steel frame mountain bike and started with that. Put a rack and some saddlebags on it with my lunch and work clothes. I really liked the geometry of that bike, and it fit me great, but it was slow and the knobby tires were loud.

I replaced the old tires with Maxxis Hookworms, and it was SO smooth and quiet. Very comfy ride too with the balloon tires and suspension fork. But the bike was even heavier now. Still slow, and I have to carry the bike up about 20 steps when I get to work. So I started looking at hybrids.

I ended up getting a Cannondale Bad Boy off craigslist for $400, and it's been pretty great. The first week of riding was amazing, like going from a pickup truck to a Ferrari. I eventually knocked 5-7 minutes off my commute time. Definitely not as comfy as the MTB, but so much faster and smoother. Much lighter and easier to carry up the stairs too. This bike has slicks for some reason, so it's dicey on ice and mud (I don't take that little singletrack shortcut anymore!), but on wet pavement it's been fine.

Good luck, and wear a helmet!
 
Professional dissenter, here. 6.5 miles both ways isn't going to do you much good, especially when the cold weather hits. Not to mention the hazards of imbeciles on *all* roads, even non-major highways.

Join a gym, hit the upright (or recumbent, only if no other choice) bikes at least four times a week, get used to spinning at 90 rpm or better for half an hour or more. That will actually do you a lot of good, take no more time than commuting, showering at work, etc., and you'll feel great.


(Bike remorse may be worse than chip remorse: Sold my pristine red original Trek 1500 aluminum with full Shimano 600 group last week -- already missing it. :( Loved that bike more than any carbon fiber I've ever ridden...)
 
(Bike remorse may be worse than chip remorse: Sold my pristine red original Trek 1500 aluminum with full Shimano 600 group last week -- already missing it. :( Loved that bike more than any carbon fiber I've ever ridden...)

^^ oof....

Must dissent with the dissenter here. Biking outdoors and spinning in a gym are worlds apart. Nothing in a gym can give you the same feeling as getting out for a ride.

some articles on bike commuting for the OP:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/commute.html
 
Professional dissenter, here. 6.5 miles both ways isn't going to do you much good, especially when the cold weather hits. Not to mention the hazards of imbeciles on *all* roads, even non-major highways.

Join a gym, hit the upright (or recumbent, only if no other choice) bikes at least four times a week, get used to spinning at 90 rpm or better for half an hour or more. That will actually do you a lot of good, take no more time than commuting, showering at work, etc., and you'll feel great.


(Bike remorse may be worse than chip remorse: Sold my pristine red original Trek 1500 aluminum with full Shimano 600 group last week -- already missing it. :( Loved that bike more than any carbon fiber I've ever ridden...)

Honestly, I'm not a gym person. I don't know how to use the weights and such properly. I cannot afford a membership and a trainer. I don't trust myself to watch you tube videos for the "proper" way. I tried crossfit, but wasn't coordinated to do much of anything. I love riding a bike. I hate running, stair climbers, treadmills..

When I ride the recumbent bike at the gym, I can get about 18-20 miles in an hour, so I work hard on it.

Now, I'm trying to work on the logistics of bringing my laptop, a change of clothes, my lunch, a towel, and toiletries as well... with my biking clothes not soaked for the ride home.
 
^^ oof....

Must dissent with the dissenter here. Biking outdoors and spinning in a gym are worlds apart. Nothing in a gym can give you the same feeling as getting out for a ride.

Of course not -- but that's not Mark's stated goal. And if he hasn't been riding in a long time, the safety aspect in commuter traffic around Baltimore would be, IMO, significant. 6.5 miles on those roads isn't a ride -- it's a survival test, and he has a wife and kids.

(Of course, down here in FL, it would be suicide, with all the somnolent 80+-year-olds, who have to *stop* their Escalades and Navigators to change lanes. Hardly a week goes by down when we don't lose a two-wheeled rider to some imbecile who shouldn't be driving...)

Don't get me wrong -- I love riding. I used to ride at least 25 miles three or four weeknights a week and centuries most weekends. Charter and life member of the Princeton Free Wheelers, Potomac Peddlars, Bicycle Ass'n of North Georgia, etc.

Mark, when it comes to the gym, it always helps to share the workouts with one or more buddies who have the same goals...but good luck with whatever regimen you settle on.
 
I'm a novice cyclist of 20 yrs. Definitely do NOT get a mountain bike for your 6.5mi trek. You probably want a "commuter" bike. Check craigslist or if you have a Performance Bike shop, they usually have great service and great prices plus they can properly fit you in the correct size frame.
http://www.performancebike.com/weba...Product_10052_10551_1210020_-1_400319__400319

You can always add a rack OR use a backpack. Tell the guy at the bike shop what your wanting it for and they'll help you out.

Oh, and your bike will get stolen if you don't lock it.

p.s. you can also get an old-school schwinn road bike for around a $100 on craigslist but you'll likely need to replace the tires/tubes/brake pads etc. But they are cool and less likely to get swiped. Good Luck!
 
Of course not -- but that's not Mark's stated goal. And if he hasn't been riding in a long time, the safety aspect in commuter traffic around Baltimore would be, IMO, significant. 6.5 miles on those roads isn't a ride -- it's a survival test, and he has a wife and kids.

(Of course, down here in FL, it would be suicide, with all the somnolent 80+-year-olds, who have to *stop* their Escalades and Navigators to change lanes. Hardly a week goes by down when we don't lose a two-wheeled rider to some imbecile who shouldn't be driving...)

Don't get me wrong -- I love riding. I used to ride at least 25 miles three or four weeknights a week and centuries most weekends. Charter and life member of the Princeton Free Wheelers, Potomac Peddlars, Bicycle Ass'n of North Georgia, etc.

Mark, when it comes to the gym, it always helps to share the workouts with one or more buddies who have the same goals...but good luck with whatever regimen you settle on.

Of course, I don't know the roads we're talking about, traffic speeds, bike-specific paths, paved shoulders or not, etc. I agree this could make a big difference in the enjoyment of your ride. I rode in the Boston suburbs for years, but I wouldn't want to commute on a dangerous road.

Does anyone know if there's a bike map (showing the best/safest bike routes) for the Baltimore area and surroundings?
 
Of course not -- but that's not Mark's stated goal. And if he hasn't been riding in a long time, the safety aspect in commuter traffic around Baltimore would be, IMO, significant. 6.5 miles on those roads isn't a ride -- it's a survival test, and he has a wife and kids.

(Of course, down here in FL, it would be suicide, with all the somnolent 80+-year-olds, who have to *stop* their Escalades and Navigators to change lanes. Hardly a week goes by down when we don't lose a two-wheeled rider to some imbecile who shouldn't be driving...)

Don't get me wrong -- I love riding. I used to ride at least 25 miles three or four weeknights a week and centuries most weekends. Charter and life member of the Princeton Free Wheelers, Potomac Peddlars, Bicycle Ass'n of North Georgia, etc.

Mark, when it comes to the gym, it always helps to share the workouts with one or more buddies who have the same goals...but good luck with whatever regimen you settle on.

Actually, I'd be taking back roads. There is about a 1.5-2 mile stretch where there is no shoulder. That part worries Me the most. It is hilly and people fly around there. Outside of that, there are wide shoulders and no major roads. I don't think you can bike on any of MDs main roads anyway
 

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