We're still T5 people. When I got my newest tourney set I told everyone I can start with T25s or 100s and change the structures and the supermajority of our players were like, "Why?" So we kept it.
That’s true. But since it’s a less efficient chip with a $1 in play, and since the quarter is more flexible, the quarter has always been a popular and probably preferred option.
Haha, see, I read your comment completely wrong and thought you were jokingly shutting me down
that is the way it should always have been.
I love my .10/.50/2/10/50 set for some .10/.10 $10 action or a .10/.20 $20 buy-in game. And yes, we did get the 50s in there once or twice (custom DDLM plaques). I think it’s a solid set, a little different, and very nice to have around for certain occasionsHey now, when I joined I asked the forum about doing 10c/50 vs 5c/25c and that seemed to ruffle a few feathers lol. I was told to "stop trying to reinvent the wheel" and "why are we trying to fix something that isn't broken?" etc, so surely it's a little controversial (but maybe sentiments have changed since).
So cool!
TLDR for my response below: Starting with T500's is more efficient for a tournament breakdown because you need fewer T500 chips in play which will soon be back in the case at the first colour up anyway.
But @JustinInMN already covered one of the main reasons being that since you only ever need one T500 chip per bet, you can get away with having fewer T500's in starting stacks, and when the first colour up comes around you don't lose ~35% of the chips on the table. (ex: T5 base, 2000 starting stack of 10/10/7/2 removes 35% of chips within the first hour of play, where as a T500 base, 125,000 starting stack of 6/12/12/2 only removes ~19% of chips). Most people love having moar chips, and this helps maintain that in a fairly efficient way.
But to expand further on this...there is a positive trade off to having fewer of the smallest chip in a starting stack. If you think about the standard T5 stack needing 10/10/7/x or a T500 needing 10/10/7/x VS a T500 using 6/12/12/x you are effectively sacrificing the smallest and least valuable chip (the same chip that is only used for 25% of the total gameplay then tossed back into a case) to gain extra, more valuable chips that are used much later on or even to the end of a game. You convert those 4 measly T500 chips into two extra T1K and five extra T5K's which are the early and late workhorse chips, respectively, giving more useful betting chips and having less change making scenarios after the first break when the game is in full swing.
And a much less important reason for not starting at T1000 (or T5000) is that when people make bets or count their stacks they don't use the word "thousand" very often. When everyone knows the context that each chip is already in the thousands they just drop the word and say "3" or "I'll bet 50" instead. Having a T1K or a T5K base tournament is the same as a T1 or T5 base but you've just added on the word thousand for funsies (which is perfectly valid for novelty, especially when you have @cpac54 Rio set, but not for a standard tournament, in my opinion). When doing a T500 base set you start the tournament betting in "hundreds" (ie 15-hundred, 85-hundred etc) and then switch into betting thousands later on (5-thousand, 45-thousand etc), so in a way the denominations actually matter a little more and serve more of a purpose.
My wife’s attorney is giving me a raft of shit about the volume of warnecke boxes they just discovered in my basement. I was false accused of storing garbage and ordered to throw them away. It’s causing an issue.
Explain to them you’re one of 5 people keeping PCF from delving into the despairs of chips never being shipped with warnecke again.
No. I make that bet with net zero chips.
Dear God you live in a house like mine it sounds like. If you're not wearing it, holding it, eating off it or it has your name on it, it's eligible for being thrown away.
I couldn't be further from that reality.
I do this with my T5K base tournaments, including T1 K on the starting stacks.
You should change your username to BernieJ3
I’m not suggesting a governing body. I’m suggesting common sense and best business practices.
I’m with you there. I always say I came to this site because I wanted chips with numbers on them. But there was a second reason - I didn’t want chips with stickers that pop off.
legit question. Can you tell a difference if they’re the exact same type and design?
The exception to this rule would be when the chip is a highly sought after chip to be milled and put into a custom set. Milling takes time and costs to be performed and as long as it's done well I'd be willing to pay a bit more than the market value of the original chip if I had an ideal project for it.
Yes, you can tell the difference between an inlay and a label. In play it's not noticable but it is when you look closer.
do you even chip? i wish i couldnt tell the difference.
Pretty much yes. I can always tell visually when a chip is milled, and many of them without close inspection.
Ty for actually answering the question. Makes sense.
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