Small Chip in A Tina After First Game, How Have Your's Held Up? (1 Viewer)

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Just curious about wear and tear hold-up on Tinas. Obviously people are most likely to post their pictures of their chips when they're fresh out of the box and haven't be used, but if I am investing in a custom set, I want them to be in for the long haul.

I received my chip sample about a week ago, and I've been shuffling them and generally simulating use throughout the week. Last night, I entered 10 into play in my home game, and had a chronic shuffler shuffle the other 10 just to see how they would appear after the game. I asked my players to go out of their way to use them and not to treat them any differently than the other chips.

The good news: 19 of them have absolutley no signs of wear and tear.

However, there is a tiny chip in one of them, pictures below.

Obviously I don't expect any set to ever be indescructable and this was definitely higher than average use for a single chip in a given game. But, I would like to know (and see, if possible!) how people's Tinas have held up over the years.

Game is played on speed felt and within a somewhat more humid and hot room than standard use (Indoor, ventilated basketball court in Connecticut).

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Looks like I would keep a set of sharpies handy. Whereas with clay a chip like this would be the same color, printed ceramics all start out as white blanks. Only one of 20, not too bad really.
 
Just curious about wear and tear hold-up on Tinas. Obviously people are most likely to post their pictures of their chips when they're fresh out of the box and haven't be used, but if I am investing in a custom set, I want them to be in for the long haul.

I received my chip sample about a week ago, and I've been shuffling them and generally simulating use throughout the week. Last night, I entered 10 into play in my home game, and had a chronic shuffler shuffle the other 10 just to see how they would appear after the game. I asked my players to go out of their way to use them and not to treat them any differently than the other chips.

The good news: 19 of them have absolutley no signs of wear and tear.

However, there is a tiny chip in one of them, pictures below.

Obviously I don't expect any set to ever be indescructable and this was definitely higher than average use for a single chip in a given game. But, I would like to know (and see, if possible!) how people's Tinas have held up over the years.

Game is played on speed felt and within a somewhat more humid and hot room than standard use (Indoor, ventilated basketball court in Connecticut).

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You Yalies are hard on your chips. No need to throw them around!! :LOL: :laugh:
 
I’ve had a few games already, “Roulette” I think they get man handled a bit more throughout the day. But they are holding up good so far. About 20 hours of gameplay total.

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I have a tangers set, I've felted them 4 times i haven't noticed anything but ill definitely be keeping an eye on them. I hope its not something that will become a problem.
 
From the very first day of use under completely normal playing conditions, the chips began to chip. Sometimes on the table, I could feel tiny pieces of the ceramic material—like fine sand or small particles.

It reached the point where small ceramic residue and debris were left behind on the table.

What you see on the images Is maybe the result after 3 Póker sessions
 
From the very first day of use under completely normal playing conditions, the chips began to chip. Sometimes on the table, I could feel tiny pieces of the ceramic material—like fine sand or small particles.

It reached the point where small ceramic residue and debris were left behind on the table.

What you see on the images Is maybe the result after 3 Póker sessions
That's interesting, I've played a few big games with mine and haven't noticed anything. I also have a horse race game my wife and I travel with. We keep the 25 cent tangers chips with it to play very low stakes in the hotel room. They have some miles on them and I haven't noticed any of this. I'll be going through the chips tomorrow to see.
 
My suggestion don’t throw the chips and treat them roughly

Ceramic material are hard but brittle enough to be chipped when hit against hard surfaces/material

Also, do you use a poker table or at least a poker mat when playing? I can foreseen a lot of damages like the one example with the sun mold if they are just played on hard surfaces
 
My suggestion don’t throw the chips and treat them roughly

Ceramic material are hard but brittle enough to be chipped when hit against hard surfaces/material

Also, do you use a poker table or at least a poker mat when playing? I can foreseen a lot of damages like the one example with the sun mold if they are just played on hard surfaces

These are poker chips and they are treated like poker chips, not bricks. They are used exclusively on a proper poker table equipped with closed-cell foam padding beneath the playing surface.
 
I bought a TINA hybrid sample barrel 1-2 weeks ago and I shuffle it while at my desk on the mousepad material shown. The edges are showing similar wear to others above. This might be a case of "YMMV" / batch dependent.
 

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When I owned two sets I had one chip that suffered damage but it hit a very hard floor on its edge. I didn’t play them many times before selling them though.
 
Appreciate the community support! I'm going to try to respond to nearly all how took the time to contribute!

Looks like I would keep a set of sharpies handy. Whereas with clay a chip like this would be the same color, printed ceramics all start out as white blanks. Only one of 20, not too bad really.

This is a good tip, but I also am a little bit on the fence about if this is worth the investment at this point. If I consider the 6.5 hour session moke akin to a 20 hours of use (due to the directive to play the chips when possible, and my constant interventions to guarantee they would be lol), this rate is concerning I think that would mean a failure rate of 0.005 failures per hour? So in a game with 300-400 chips in play for 6 hours, I can expect 9 to 12 failures. That would obviously not be worth the investment, in a 1,000 chip set that would mean ~50 to 80 sessions until I can no longer populate the game with the ammount of chips needed. I don't think that passes the smell test of reality, though, as I can't imagine a world where the forum loves Tinas if they fail at this rate.

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Wonderful, thank you! Do you mind if I ask about how many sessions of play you've had with these at this point, have you had any failures?

I’ve had a few games already, “Roulette” I think they get man handled a bit more throughout the day. But they are holding up good so far. About 20 hours of gameplay total.

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Looking great! Is roulette generally kinder or rougher on the chips than poker, in your experience?

I had that exact problem with the sun mold chips

From the very first day of use under completely normal playing conditions, the chips began to chip. Sometimes on the table, I could feel tiny pieces of the ceramic material—like fine sand or small particles.

It reached the point where small ceramic residue and debris were left behind on the table.

What you see on the images Is maybe the result after 3 Póker sessions

Oof. This is really concerning then, because I'm counting a minimum of 12 chips in only three sessions. Not sure how many chips you have in play or for how long, but it's hard to imagine that your failure rate is much different than the calculations I made above. Are you playing on felt? I have to imagine you are if you've invested in Tinas.

My suggestion don’t throw the chips and treat them roughly

Ceramic material are hard but brittle enough to be chipped when hit against hard surfaces/material

Also, do you use a poker table or at least a poker mat when playing? I can foreseen a lot of damages like the one example with the sun mold if they are just played on hard surfaces

I mean, definitely theoretically agree, but in practice there's not much I can do about that. We play a decent speed felt mat on a ping pong table (lol), but I also have interest in making sure that the game is fun, and I use up a lot of my social currency as the host in the sense that I'm by far the most winning player in the game, we play some side games that one or two players aren't always thrilled about, and I have to direct the action/blinds/play the floor man role. My players are not particularily rough with the chips, but they do throw them into the pot and such from about 6-10 inches above the table. I would rather invest in more premium chips than have to ask players not to do that.


Always nice to know the scientific term, thank you!

I bought a TINA hybrid sample barrel 1-2 weeks ago and I shuffle it while at my desk on the mousepad material shown. The edges are showing similar wear to others above. This might be a case of "YMMV" / batch dependent.

We look like we got similair, if not almost exactly the same, samples. Most of these chips are in my sample as well.

Amazing how many have had issues, but this went unspoken for such a long time.

Many thanks to @JMGill12 for bringing this into the light, and to the others who verified (both with and without damage).

Thank you, I'm kinda surpirsed at the ammount of people who have also had this problem!

When I owned two sets I had one chip that suffered damage but it hit a very hard floor on its edge. I didn’t play them many times before selling them though.

Good to know, thank you! That, to me, is obviously part of the bargain. I don't expect the chips to break every time if they're dropped on a hard floor, but I alos don't expect a chip to never break on a drop like that either.
 
Always nice to know the scientific term, thank you!

Good to know, thank you! That, to me, is obviously part of the bargain. I don't expect the chips to break every time if they're dropped on a hard floor, but I alos don't expect a chip to never break on a drop like that either.
Knowing what it is and what causes it sometimes helps in avoiding those situations. Of course if you don’t care about preventing damage and just want to live with it that’s fine too.
 
I'm constantly shuffling a set of hybrids. I might have a few chipped from each order but that's usually from 2-3000 order.
The only time I've had a situation shown above was from a bad set of poker trays.
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I was curious if any molds are more susceptible to this so tossed 10 of each mold into a gallon ziploc bag… I beat the hell out of it. Dropped the bag from ~4ft to the ground a couple dozen times, rolled it around for 5 min, etc trying to simulate extreme wear (including dropping chips off the table onto hard flooring).

Result was surprisingly less damage than I expected. A handful of chips were nicked, only one completely broken.. but doesn’t really follow any mold.

I suspect there’s some other factor at play with those that have much faster edge wear in the comments above… outside of storage or play conditions, I suppose it’s possible some runs have contaminants or have a slightly different process parameters that make the chips a bit more prone to damage. China quality control?

Not so pron photo of my worst chips from the test.
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I have a set of 18 year old Chipco chips. When I first got them there were some that had print flake off from shuffling. After complaining to the vendor these were replaced due to what they said were faulty blanks and to this day it hasn’t occurred again. PS / I kept the defects, applied sharpie ink to them, and no one can tell the difference. So I think maybe it has to do with ceramic composition as much as anything.
 
I have a 600 chip set of 39MM web molds. Have used them for 5 games. I don't have a topper, we play on a large conference table. Have had no issues and have not noticed any chips or damage. I'm sure I will now that I've seen this though 😅
 
My WSOP Rio tributes have held up fine after 5 tournies.
But it's like what Forrest Gump said when Lt. Dan asked if he'd found Jesus yet ...
"I didn't know I was supposed to be lookin' for him, sir!"
 
I was curious if any molds are more susceptible to this so tossed 10 of each mold into a gallon ziploc bag… I beat the hell out of it. Dropped the bag from ~4ft to the ground a couple dozen times, rolled it around for 5 min, etc trying to simulate extreme wear.

Result was surprisingly less damage than I expected. A handful of chips were nicked, only one completely broken.. but doesn’t really follow any mold.

I suspect there’s some other factor at play with those that have much faster edge wear in the comments above… outside of storage or play conditions, I suppose it’s possible some runs have contaminants or have a slightly different process parameters that make the chips a bit more prone to damage. China quality control?

Not so pron photo of my worst chips from the test.
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A man after everybody’s hearts!! Thank you for doing this, and I agree, wayyyyy less damage than I think any reasonable person would expect. To only have one chip actually crack and a few of them with small chips is very impressive!
 
I ordered two other 800-piece sets from Anita for some friends—one on the No mold and one on the Hat and Cane plain mold. They host games twice a week and have had these sets for just over a year, experiencing no durability issues compared to this sun mold from Tina
 

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