legend672
Full House
The flower boy comment got what it deserved. Being at a poker table doesn’t save you from a slap when you run your mouth. Slamming down cards isn’t egregious either. Don’t be such a baby
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justsomedude
Royal Flush
Maybe take him outside and give him a bloody nose to see if he still wants to play
I would not invite him back.
I first read this as "give him a bloody mary." Might even help his anger problem.
This. You guys all play with saints and never threatened to beat the shit out of a friend as joke? Sounds like he’s def annoying and possibly an asshat. Or just needs reprimanded and a talk.
LotsOfChips
Flush
Yeah, when I was seven years old...
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TheYeti
3 of a Kind
Like I said, Bob and John have been friends for many years and I got the feeling that this wasn't the first time John whipped out the "flower boy". lol
Also, Bob has been bragging about how much happier he is at the flower shop, which is obviously over-compensating, but still.
You sound fun at a party
PCF: "Threatening physical violence is bad."
Also PCF: "If that old man was at my game, @MrCatPants, I'd punch him in the fcking mouth."
Anyway, I would egg on a fight and then gamble on it. I'd hope Bob loses but I'd still thank him if he caught the W for my wallet.
Also PCF: "If that old man was at my game, @MrCatPants, I'd punch him in the fcking mouth."
Anyway, I would egg on a fight and then gamble on it. I'd hope Bob loses but I'd still thank him if he caught the W for my wallet.
Just sounds Canadian to me. (Not the Grant kind though.)
I was gonna say, you all are missing out on an opportunity here.
#19 in my house rules:
Rhodeman77
Straight Flush
Context definitely matters. Sounds like OP doesn’t like the guy anyways and was looking to get rid of him? If it was another player that OP likes doing something similar would he let it slide or chalk it up so some friends needling each other?
I had a similar “slamming” situation with a guy. I politely asked him to control himself. A few weeks later, he shoves all in on me with a stone cold bluff and is somehow pissed he’s bet into my set, which I snap called and stacked him. Slams his shit and storms out of the house. I’m pissed enough I’m concerned what I might do if I chase the fucker down, so I let him go without talking. The next time he asks for a seat, I told him he and I needed to have a face to face chat, first. We did and I explained that if my teenage son can control his emotions, I expect the adults to be equally up to the task. I get being a little tilted, but if you can’t afford to lose, don’t play. Simple. He assures me he’s deeply embarrassed and it’ll never happen again.
A few sessions pass with him in check. But, the frustration starts building a month or so later. He’s now muttering complaints non stop under his breath, but I can hear every last word. I decide to break for dinner to see if we can get this under control before it boils over, again.
I’d had that day catered by a buddy who makes world class BBQ. It was not cheap. The guys are going on and on over how amazing the ribs and brisket are. Our villain says rather loudly, “I’m not sure they’re worth a grand, but sure.” He was down $1k ish at that point. I walk over and say to him, well…fortunately they didn’t cost quite that much. But, they are free to you, so maybe you could just focus on having a good time hanging out with your friends! He says “yeah…that’s why I come here”. Again, I’m trying really hard to hard not to lose my own temper, so I just roll my eyes and walk.
Play resumes and my son stacks him like ten mins later. He again slams my chips into my table and storms off. This time my son is saying “hey Villain, sorry man. Better luck next time”. And he tries to fist bump him as he storms by. Villain doesn’t say a word to anyone and goes the long way around to avoid everyone. He slams the door as he exits.
That was enough for me. I gave it the old college try, but yeesh. Grow the fuck up! I told him he was no longer welcome back. When he’d stormed off, the table was a bit somber for a minute. I made some joke and said that behavior wouldn’t be tolerated ever again, by anyone. So far, so good.
Maybe I should have punted him earlier. But, I would have felt guilty if I hadn’t given him ample opportunities to correct his behavior. I only let him come back for my own peace of mind. Now I have that and it’s all good. I’d say there is no right or wrong answer on when you toss the guy. I like what @doublebooyah85 suggested, but that’s because it tracks with my personality. Tossing him quicker is A OK, too! The physical threat would definitely be something I addressed immediately. I think I’d quote Rip from Yellowstone. If you’re going to fight anyone, you can fight me! Probably not the best advice, but that’s me.
A few sessions pass with him in check. But, the frustration starts building a month or so later. He’s now muttering complaints non stop under his breath, but I can hear every last word. I decide to break for dinner to see if we can get this under control before it boils over, again.
I’d had that day catered by a buddy who makes world class BBQ. It was not cheap. The guys are going on and on over how amazing the ribs and brisket are. Our villain says rather loudly, “I’m not sure they’re worth a grand, but sure.” He was down $1k ish at that point. I walk over and say to him, well…fortunately they didn’t cost quite that much. But, they are free to you, so maybe you could just focus on having a good time hanging out with your friends! He says “yeah…that’s why I come here”. Again, I’m trying really hard to hard not to lose my own temper, so I just roll my eyes and walk.
Play resumes and my son stacks him like ten mins later. He again slams my chips into my table and storms off. This time my son is saying “hey Villain, sorry man. Better luck next time”. And he tries to fist bump him as he storms by. Villain doesn’t say a word to anyone and goes the long way around to avoid everyone. He slams the door as he exits.
That was enough for me. I gave it the old college try, but yeesh. Grow the fuck up! I told him he was no longer welcome back. When he’d stormed off, the table was a bit somber for a minute. I made some joke and said that behavior wouldn’t be tolerated ever again, by anyone. So far, so good.
Maybe I should have punted him earlier. But, I would have felt guilty if I hadn’t given him ample opportunities to correct his behavior. I only let him come back for my own peace of mind. Now I have that and it’s all good. I’d say there is no right or wrong answer on when you toss the guy. I like what @doublebooyah85 suggested, but that’s because it tracks with my personality. Tossing him quicker is A OK, too! The physical threat would definitely be something I addressed immediately. I think I’d quote Rip from Yellowstone. If you’re going to fight anyone, you can fight me! Probably not the best advice, but that’s me.
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TheYeti
3 of a Kind
You're not wrong, maybe I was looking for an excuse to get rid of him, but behavior such as this would probably get the majority of my players insta-banned. There is only a handful of my players that I would consider close friends, and if this happened with one of them I would definitely have a long talk before even considering a ban from the game.
Bob would also always try to challenge my house rules (saying "that's not how <this or that> casino does it"), get me to raise my stakes, or get me to change the day of the week my game takes place because it was more convenient for him. He really is just an all-around whiner.
upNdown
Royal Flush
My friends and I will call each other bastards or motherfuckers or even cunts. But I can’t ever remember any faux threats.
Shit poker games use to cost people’s lives!
Yeah if the guy sucks and is always annoying move on and/or giving him a talking. If he’s a fun player, gives action, or someone’s close friend have a talk’n.You're not wrong, maybe I was looking for an excuse to get rid of him, but behavior such as this would probably get the majority of my players insta-banned. There is only a handful of my players that I would consider close friends, and if this happened with one of them I would definitely have a long talk before even considering a ban from the game.
Bob would also always try to challenge my house rules (saying "that's not how <this or that> casino does it"), get me to raise my stakes, or get me to change the day of the week my game takes place because it was more convenient for him. He really is just an all-around whiner.
If he’s always mad someone is sucking out on him, sounds like action is what is pissing him off. I’m constantly amazed when NITs are pissed over splashy games.
owlbee
Pair
Are they a chef in the KC metro area? Someone like Chef J?
Nah, my buddy is Dana. His restaurant is in Branson. It’s called Big D’s BBQ. He’s won a bunch of national competitions and his restaurant has been voted best BBQ in southwest Missouri every year since it opened in 2017.
HiveKueen
Two Pair
In my league, this type of behavior would drive other players away. Thrown out on his ass and banned!
Aside: "settle down Flower Boy!" With friends like this who needs....
Aside: "settle down Flower Boy!" With friends like this who needs....
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"Pardon me, good sir, though we have knownst one another since being knee-high to a grasshopper, I must beg your permission to alloweth me to increase your wager by a full one-half of the currently accumulated pot size, or would such aggression be too great a strain on our dearest friendship?"
CantSpellPoker
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Echoing what a few others have said - at the end of the day, it’s your house and your game. It sounds like this guy wasn’t your cup of tea to begin with, and this “incident” was a legitimate means of getting him off your invite list.
You’re not obligated to invite and re-invite anyone. You could just as easily have removed him from the list before this happened. But now you have an answer if anyone asks you why… “He made physical threats last time he was here. Joking or not, I don’t need that kind of wild card behavior at my game.”
You’re not obligated to invite and re-invite anyone. You could just as easily have removed him from the list before this happened. But now you have an answer if anyone asks you why… “He made physical threats last time he was here. Joking or not, I don’t need that kind of wild card behavior at my game.”
SixSpeedFury
Full House
Well, Bob is a Dick. So that tracks.
MrCatPants
Full House
It appears I've been summomed to this thread.
My view -
Offense one coachable, not.bannable. a warning.
Offense two, Johns comment is actually out of line. Joke about someone getting fired, their wife leaving them, financial misfortune, illness or disability, that is sensitive stuff and poor taste. John is coached, not banned.
Threats of violence, not ok. Bob upgraded to once and final warning.
Offense three, too sensitive. If John can joke about him being fired, but he can't joke about shuffles... That said i get annoyed about criticizing the deal/game mechanics too but I just communicate that directly when it happens.
My view -
Offense one coachable, not.bannable. a warning.
Offense two, Johns comment is actually out of line. Joke about someone getting fired, their wife leaving them, financial misfortune, illness or disability, that is sensitive stuff and poor taste. John is coached, not banned.
Threats of violence, not ok. Bob upgraded to once and final warning.
Offense three, too sensitive. If John can joke about him being fired, but he can't joke about shuffles... That said i get annoyed about criticizing the deal/game mechanics too but I just communicate that directly when it happens.
Geez, I’d have to ban my entire league plus myself within about 2 minutes 30 seconds. We are pretty much 100% abusive and disrespectful to each other.
Agree with the ban.
Jimulacrum
Full House
Death penalty. No appeals.
He just sounds like a pain in the ass. I'm not clutching my pearls about any one thing, but creating a hostile atmosphere and whining about shuffling? GTFOH, go do that at the casino where the dealers paid to listen to his shit. Home games shouldn't feel like a chore.
AlbinoDragon
Flush
I don't think I saw it asked, but was there alcohol involved? Some folks have the tendency to become a bit more aggressive or confrontational after a few drinks.
I'm not excusing "Bob's" behavior during these events, but if there was a bit too much drink involved, this might be better handled with a off-group chat with him basically stating "I love having you at my game, but your actions after a couple start to impact everyone's enjoyment."
I'm not excusing "Bob's" behavior during these events, but if there was a bit too much drink involved, this might be better handled with a off-group chat with him basically stating "I love having you at my game, but your actions after a couple start to impact everyone's enjoyment."
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