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FUN CITY POKE IS MORE WHAT WE DO AFTER POKER, SIR.
WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN PUBLIC JOSH!!!
FUN CITY POKE IS MORE WHAT WE DO AFTER POKER, SIR.
DONT TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE.WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THIS IN PUBLIC JOSH!!!
This is what I wanted to print and the cards you see below are what I received. Is it 100%? No, but I specifically designed these to be off center and cut off (maybe I had a vision of the future?). For me, these are acceptable.
I want to just say that Oscar did check in on me with this design during this process. Somewhere, somehow, the formatting of this design was messed up and Oscar reached out to double check. I may have been an edge case. I'm not sure. I just wanted to make it known that Oscar did not just blindly throw these designs over to the printer.
(You know, maybe I'm the one to blame for the aggressive shifting of everyone's designs. Maybe they worked on printing my cards first and that calibration threw all the other subsequent cards off)
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FUN CITY POKE IS MORE WHAT WE DO AFTER POKER, SIR.
I think you may have hit on the real issue in your last sentence. I've been thinking the same, but hesitated to come right out and say it. Why else would a company that has a good reputation from many previous encounters with PCF still be pushing back on resolving this? The product they shipped out is clearly about 50% garbage. They have to see that with very little effort. They should clearly be offering to do something to fix it, unless it was Oscar himself who approved all the proofs and made the file edits? If this is the case, then we're all screwed and all this effort we're putting forth is a waste of time.
It’s been my experience that printers reprint their errors, and generally don’t refund.Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the question be if they are willing to refund or not, rather than all this technical how-its-made?
It's nice to know what went wrong but more important to know if people will get their money back (unless thats not something people are interested in).
Something like "~ went wrong. We would like to request a courtesy refund of $. Thanks".
Worst they say is no. And even then that stops all the complaining.
I think it’s two ways of getting the same information. Ask the question of what should have been do to prevent this and what are we going to do to make it right vs What are we going to do about this?” and them explaining why they will/won’t reprint/refund.Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't the question be if they are willing to refund or not, rather than all this technical how-its-made?
It's nice to know what went wrong but more important to know if people will get their money back (unless thats not something people are interested in).
Something like "~ went wrong. We would like to request a courtesy refund of $. Thanks".
Worst they say is no. And even then that stops all the complaining.
This will definitely be the first thing they offer, although I could see a partial refund depending on the number of cards not meeting QCIt’s been my experience that printers reprint their errors, and generally don’t refund.
Is that carbonated soju? Or adding it to champagne?DONT TELL ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE. View attachment 1633996
It's AI and I have no clue. I just know it was made and people want what they want....Is that carbonated soju? Or adding it to champagne?
It's potato vodkaIs that carbonated soju? Or adding it to champagne?
Oh man missed the AI watermark! TerribleIt's AI and I have no clue. I just know it was made and people want what they want....
@Schmendr1ck was the creator ...
My cards actually arrived today. Not sure if its due to some good effort from Oscar or if it was fixed by the post service.
Cards were not perfect but better than I expected tbh. View attachment 1634394
If you are specifically asking me, I've ordered from several cut card GBs including my own previous custom design, and quite a few casino designs. I believe they all came from this same vendor, and there has never even been an inkling of an issue that I'm aware of.In fairness, and not to beat a dead horse, but how many (much older and not from this GB) cut cards have been posted in here with the exact same off-center issue from this vendor?
I've cancelled my own GB with this company because it's clear they don't have their shit together, well beyond any file-error/proof approvals that may have been made on the front end.
On-center printing is a basics/101 problem, if you can't get that right, you aren't worth my time, energy, or money.
It shouldn't take another year for reprints, because it never should have taken a year in the first place. That part is 90% on Oscar, not the printers.Theyll just send messed up versions tho or it will take another year.
I have no horse in this race just pointing it out
this thread has started to go in circles a bit and it’s getting harder to track what’s new vs. what’s already been discussed.
Maybe check the thread and respond more often than once per week?If anyone has suggestions on how to wrap this thread up constructively, I’m open to hearing them.
I agree 100%. What if they reprint all the bad cards? Who pays for shipping? @Okku ? Or the members who received bad cards? Both sub-optimal outcomes imo.Maybe check the thread and respond more often than once per week?
Candidly, it does not matter what their actual print/cut tolerances are, whether this run was within their spec, how QC is supposed to catch alignment issues or what specifically went wrong on this job. All that matters is that they have many unhappy customers and they should be working to make them happy rather than alienate them.
I'm as unhappy with the alignment on the bridge cards as I am that you sent them out as if they were fine. Bridge alignment issues should have been identified by you, the final customer should have been sent pictures and the option to accept or reject, and the company should have been contacted about the rejected alignment issues. Then you'd have all the rejects rather than them being catered all over the country and/or the world.