GB Completed Custom Cut Card Group Buy - Jan 2025 (17 Viewers)

[triton]

I know a lot has been said, and I’m not posting this to pile on, but I think we should reserve judgment on plastic printers. One of the hallmarks of a good business is that they acknowledge they aren’t 100% perfect and fix mistakes that are made. In this case I don’t think they were given that opportunity.

For example:

I mean — who receives cards in this condition, and doesnt immediately contact plastic printers to give them an opportunity to respond? No, let’s just ignore this and reship anyways hoping it will all be ok?

Who dosent immediately check quantities and quality and reach out to plastic printers to resolve errors?

I’m running a small group buy right now and I will say that I received responses to 100% of my inquiries within one business hour.

Once I am done with my GB I will post about my experience with plastic printers so that all are aware, but I don’t think it’s fair that PCF judges them based on this one GB.

 

[Pippa]

@Okku
Can I have my cut cards ………one day?

 

[ChipMonster]

I know a lot has been said, and I’m not posting this to pile on, but I think we should reserve judgment on plastic printers. One of the hallmarks of a good business is that they acknowledge they aren’t 100% perfect and fix mistakes that are made. In this case I don’t think they were given that opportunity.

For example:

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I mean — who receives cards in this condition, and doesnt immediately contact plastic printers to give them an opportunity to respond? No, let’s just ignore this and reship anyways hoping it will all be ok?

Who dosent immediately check quantities and quality and reach out to plastic printers to resolve errors?

I’m running a small group buy right now and I will say that I received responses to 100% of my inquiries within one business hour.

Once I am done with my GB I will post about my experience with plastic printers so that all are aware, but I don’t think it’s fair that PCF judges them based on this one GB.

To be fair, that shouldn’t have left their factory or made it past quality control. I get the whole bleed zone etc but it seems like there was little to no effort to center anything anywhere close to where the cut line should’ve been with almost every design pushed to the absolute edge. The part that sucks is if you ordered these directly from the printer they never would’ve sent like this and if you did receive, you’d have direct access to complain. We never had any voice in this process or transparency. No acknowledgement of who modified designs or any channel for recourse and questions that were supposed to make it back to the printer likely never were voiced.

 

[Bikshu]

To be fair, that shouldn’t have left their factory or made it past quality control. I get the whole bleed zone etc but it seems like there was little to no effort to center anything anywhere close to where the cut line should’ve been with almost every design pushed to the absolute edge. The part that sucks is if you ordered these directly from the printer they never would’ve sent like this and if you did receive, you’d have direct access to complain. We never had any voice in this process or transparency. No acknowledgement of who modified designs or any channel for recourse and questions that were supposed to make it back to the printer likely never were voiced.

That is 100% exactly what I've been trying to say. Thank you for finding the words to more accurately describe my thoughts than I was able to. LOL

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

One thing that was notably absent from this process vs the only other time I’ve been a part of one of these buys is the review of the proofs by the file owner. Outside of the inversion issues, I’d guess 80%+ of the issues here would have been discovered prior to printing if the designer had been the party approving the proofs. While I’m sure Oscar did his best, it was always going to be a challenge for him to look at a design and know what is supposed to be there or whether something was amiss.

Trying to put this back on the buyers and the designers is absolutely ludicrous. Numerous people throughout this thread raised their hands and offered to help Oscar throughout the process. When Oscar was discussing that he was reviewing proofs, I seem to recall several people asking if their particular design was involved in this review.

While there seem to be two pretty distinct sides of the argument here, I think it’s an easy out to point the finger squarely at Oscar when there are so many unknowns that will likely stay that way. By his own admission, there are numerous things he would have done differently now that he’s been through the process. But it’s ingenuous to place 100% of the blame on Oscar. Or the printer for that matter

I think you meant to say disingenuous. I also don't recall anyone saying that the blame was 100% on one or the other. Clearly there are issues on both sides.

And in 59 pages now, I can’t recall a single person asking to personally review their file proofs prior to being sent to the press. So even if it was passively, we all carry some of the weight of what happened. Or at least the file owners should. I’m sure there were lots of people who bought cards only designed by others, and maybe they get off scott free on this one.

I think you should review all 59 pages again. As I stated above, multiple people have volunteered to help. Maybe not that one specific thing, or maybe someone did? I don't have the entire thread memorized. But help has absolutely been offered all through the process. Each design was submitted with a graphics file that can be looked at to see what the final card should look like. Many of these final cards couldn't have possibly been looked at by either Ocsar or the printer and approved as is. The only possible answer is that no one reviewed all the proofs, or that many of the cards were produced that did not match the approved proof. There is no other possibility.

While the finished product for some of these designs was not as intended, there is still a member who volunteered their time and energy to try and bring something to the community at large. A member who uncharacteristically hasn’t logged on in almost a week. And maybe it has nothing to do with anything here on the Forum or this thread. But it makes me sad to think that’s even a possibility

Over the past year their have been multiple different times when Oscar did not respond timely to questions in thread or hasn't been completely honest in his replies. We would like to think he learned from that a long time ago, but who knows? Oscar will reply back in his own time. No way to know when that will be. In the meantime, we are all still waiting to find out what the printer's reply is to the latest questions, so it's natural for us to all keep posting here. I wouldn't read anything overly grave into that.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I know a lot has been said, and I’m not posting this to pile on, but I think we should reserve judgment on plastic printers. One of the hallmarks of a good business is that they acknowledge they aren’t 100% perfect and fix mistakes that are made. In this case I don’t think they were given that opportunity.

For example:

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I mean — who receives cards in this condition, and doesnt immediately contact plastic printers to give them an opportunity to respond? No, let’s just ignore this and reship anyways hoping it will all be ok?

Who dosent immediately check quantities and quality and reach out to plastic printers to resolve errors?

I’m running a small group buy right now and I will say that I received responses to 100% of my inquiries within one business hour.

Once I am done with my GB I will post about my experience with plastic printers so that all are aware, but I don’t think it’s fair that PCF judges them based on this one GB.

This is also what I've been saying ever since I started seeing the final cards. What reputable company would blow off their customer (Oscar) after seeing the results and hearing what their customers are saying about their product? This is why I disagree with anyone who says let's wash our hands of this experience and move on. If the statements above are truly how this company operates, we will either get our cards remade, or get a substantial refund.

The fact that we haven't heard anything from Oscar in a week paints a pretty clear picture. Oscar is incapable of negotiating a settlement with Plastic Printer's over this whole debacle. It's time for him to let someone else step in and get this mess cleaned up.

 

[WedgeRock]

I was expecting an update at least by Saturday after your contact spoke with the graphics manager on Monday and then touched base with you.

 

[Kensco]

The only possible answer is that no one reviewed all the proofs, or that many of the cards were produced that did not match the approved proof. There is no other possibility.

One other possibility is the proofs were "reviewed" & approved and the printer created exactly what they were told was "approved"

 

[Cratty]

Lets just document all of the lessons learned for the next eventual buy (whoever may take on):

• Create a very clear and organized list of cards and quantities, and ensure all review and approve before order is submitted.
• Ensure strict standards are held for designers, and make sure designers correct work if not accurate (so no fault can be placed on group runner)
• Limit number of designs to a manageable amount (e.g. 30-50 max, depending on your time and organization skills)
• Clear written communication (and shared screenshotd back to the forum when needed), but verbal/phone communication best for expediting
• Don't make assumptions based upon communications from printer. If they communicate "should be in production tomorrow!", dont assume in production tomorrow if silent. Provide email receipts of communications when possible so no he said/she said.
• Upon receipt of cards, quality check and document all major misalignment with photos. Contact printer both in writing and verbally on misalignments for those that are the most unacceptable (as agreed with users).
• Count all cards to ensure accurate quantities vs original purchase submission. Include any discrepancies in above note to manufacturer.
• For acceptable orders, pack up and ship to users within a couple weeks of delivery. If unable to, recommend pulling in help from other users willing to lend a hand. Do all orders at once to ensure
• Double check all quantities sent vs original excel list to ensure all are accounted for.
• Don't lose your job, have a baby in the NICU, get a new job, have a dog.

Think that covers about everything. Good luck to the next sucker who wants to coordinate!

 

[Benjaminotaur]

Trying to put this back on the buyers and the designers is absolutely ludicrous. Numerous people throughout this thread raised their hands and offered to help Oscar throughout the process. When Oscar was discussing that he was reviewing proofs, I seem to recall several people asking if their particular design was involved in this review.

It’s not my intention to place blame on the buyers for something they did. Some of what is suggested is that Oscar should have known every step of this process as if he were a professional printer, which is unfair. As noted by other members here when they have contacted Plastic Printers, their own staff is unaware that head to foot printing is their standard, whether they realize it or not. Asking if their proof was done is not the same as asking to verify themselves their proof is correct. While it would have resulted in errors being identified prior to printing, Oscar did not think to offer that as an option, and others, including myself, did not think to ask for it themselves. That is what I am referring to when I say the proofing process belongs to the people that went along with the process as presented to them.

I think you meant to say disingenuous. I also don't recall anyone saying that the blame was 100% on one or the other. Clearly there are issues on both sides.

You’re probably right. I was writing that in the wee hours of the morning.

I think you should review all 59 pages again. As I stated above, multiple people have volunteered to help. Maybe not that one specific thing, or maybe someone did? I don't have the entire thread memorized. But help has absolutely been offered all through the process. Each design was submitted with a graphics file that can be looked at to see what the final card should look like. Many of these final cards couldn't have possibly been looked at by either Ocsar or the printer and approved as is. The only possible answer is that no one reviewed all the proofs, or that many of the cards were produced that did not match the approved proof. There is no other possibility.

As one of the people who offered to help, I know there were plenty of opportunities for Oscar to make this easier on himself. It was his choice to tackle it alone, and he himself admitted it was a bigger project than he realized. But it’s also the type of help that was being offered that wouldn’t have resulted in this process taking less time or resulting in the correct cards showing up on delivery. There were multiple times it was offered to refund peoples orders, and every time a buyer passed on that opportunity they agreed to let Oscar keep going with the process and see how it played out.

Saying there is only one possible answer is, in my opinion, closed minded. Projects like this, with this many moving parts, with the small quantities involved, is likely not what they are used to at this vendor. I could be totally off base, but I would venture a guess that most of the jobs they get are for 250-500 of the same print and design. It’s a lot easier to set the printer and proof the results when that format is presented. I am in no way suggesting the results are acceptable, just posing another plausible answer as to how things could have easily ended up the way they did. At this point I don’t think we’ll ever know the reason why some of the cards wound up being significantly different than what was submitted, and if we do get an answer it likely won’t go into the exact reasons of who is at fault.

Over the past year their have been multiple different times when Oscar did not respond timely to questions in thread or hasn't been completely honest in his replies. We would like to think he learned from that a long time ago, but who knows? Oscar will reply back in his own time. No way to know when that will be. In the meantime, we are all still waiting to find out what the printer's reply is to the latest questions, so it's natural for us to all keep posting here. I wouldn't read anything overly grave into that.

By his own admission, Oscar said that he gave too many reports, not enough reports, waited to long to respond, and responded too quickly based on incomplete information. Maybe some of those were lies, maybe they were misunderstandings on his part. Whatever the result he apologized for the process and for the result, and it seemed like that apology was accepted for the most part by the people involved in the GB.

But the resulting product seems to have negated the apology for many people here, and the process is once again under fire from more than a few members. I’m not saying no one should be asking questions about how the vendor has responded, if they’ve responded, or what the next steps are. If refunds or reprinting are a possibility, I 100% think it’s worthwhile to continue down that path. And I hope there is some resolve for some, if not all, of those affected.

While they are “just plastic cut cards”, those little details can make a huge difference in the feel of a set or game. And getting those right is important to us as a community. If it weren’t, there wouldn’t be buys running right now for totally unnecessary yet awesome bank bags, light boxes, table toppers, and even more cut cards.

Like everyone here, I’m hoping for an end result that people are somewhat happy with that allows everyone to move on. Something close enough to be used until another design comes along for the next group buy run by someone who can use this thread as a resource for what not to do, but also as a learning tool for how to resolve issues with a vendor should they arise

 

[Benjaminotaur]

And while I was responding with a novel to @TX_Golf_N_Poker, @Cratty put things much more succinctly, so maybe just read what he said

 

[KevinPower5]

By his own admission, Oscar said that he gave too many reports, not enough reports, waited to long to respond, and responded too quickly based on incomplete information. Maybe some of those were lies, maybe they were misunderstandings on his part. Whatever the result he apologized for the process and for the result, and it seemed like that apology was accepted for the most part by the people involved in the GB.

I don't want to keep ragging on the guy, but I'm sure not the only one thinking he can keep another one of his empty apologies. He clearly never meant it when he continued to do the same things he apologized for over-and-over and over-and-over again.

 

[Okku]

I finally heard back from the manufacturer the other day. I’ve taken the week off to reset mentally and focus on myself because I needed it. I got a pretty detailed explanation of their production process.

Short version:

• Cards are printed 15-up on Teslin sheets
• Sheets are laminated, then die-cut using sensor marks
• Teslin is a softer stock and can stretch a bit with heat and lamination
• Some movement can happen as sheets go through the conveyor/rollers
• Borders and tight edge designs make any shift way more noticeable

They also mentioned human calibration plays a role. If the die-cut is lined up slightly off, cuts can end up consistently off in one direction.

So from their side, they’re saying it’s a mix of material behavior, process limits, and setup/calibration.

That said, a lot of what we saw feels beyond normal tiny variance, especially on designs that were comfortably inside safe zones. That’s the part I’m still pressing them on.

I’ve followed up asking about:
• Their actual tolerance specs
• How QC checks runs like this
• When a run is considered out of spec
• And whether redos/reprints are possible on the worst ones

I’ll share whatever they say next. I just want clear answers so everyone understands what happened and what’s realistic going forward.

 

[triton]

Thanks @Okku that would be helpful. Can you also address the quantity issues and how so many of the GB participants were shorted?

Also, would like to understand the “zooming” issue that many participants noticed on their bridge designs.

 

[Himewad]

Thanks @Okku that would be helpful. Can you also address the quantity issues and how so many of the GB participants were shorted?

Also, would like to understand the “zooming” issue that many participants noticed on their bridge designs.

Yes, quantities, alignment, image scaling, and also image editing (deletions, rotation) need to be addressed. Pretty much every aspect of these damn things was impacted.

 

[NeoViny23]

• And whether redos/reprints are possible on the worst ones

The company should reprint the designs where the customer is not satisfied with the results and not just reprinting the worst ones.

 

[BaroneSanitation]

Was there a reason why some designs weren't even printed? Paid for design fees, waited a year and some didn't even show up. Were those just not submitted for some reason or missed by plastic printers? Had @DrunkleWade make a sweet design for my club and wanted some of his hand ranking ones as well. Also, what was the total amount of $ on this order?

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I finally heard back from the manufacturer the other day. I’ve taken the week off to reset mentally and focus on myself because I needed it. I got a pretty detailed explanation of their production process.

Short version:

• Cards are printed 15-up on Teslin sheets
• Sheets are laminated, then die-cut using sensor marks
• Teslin is a softer stock and can stretch a bit with heat and lamination
• Some movement can happen as sheets go through the conveyor/rollers
• Borders and tight edge designs make any shift way more noticeable

They also mentioned human calibration plays a role. If the die-cut is lined up slightly off, cuts can end up consistently off in one direction.

So from their side, they’re saying it’s a mix of material behavior, process limits, and setup/calibration.

That said, a lot of what we saw feels beyond normal tiny variance, especially on designs that were comfortably inside safe zones. That’s the part I’m still pressing them on.

I’ve followed up asking about:
• Their actual tolerance specs
• How QC checks runs like this
• When a run is considered out of spec
• And whether redos/reprints are possible on the worst ones

I’ll share whatever they say next. I just want clear answers so everyone understands what happened and what’s realistic going forward.

Sounds to me like you are still being waaaay too nicey-nice. Personally, I don't give a flying F#@! what the answers are to any of those questions. Company claims to have a policy of only sending out high quality product and of making sure customers are satisfied. This order failed miserably on both counts.

Only question I want asked is are they going to reprint the cards where customers are not satisfied, or refund our money?

 

[ChipMonster]

I want to offer this constructively and with the goal of actually getting to resolution and closure for all impacted.

It’s clear at this point that pushing back on the manufacturer requires a certain level of experience, technical understanding, and comfort applying pressure. That’s hard for anyone, especially when this started as a good-faith community group buy and then ballooned into a yearlong several-thousand-dollar production with hundreds of designs and countless failures.

This isn’t a criticism of Oscar at all. Quite the opposite, this clearly grew far beyond what most people would reasonably expect to manage solo, especially given everything else going on in his life. I think what we’re seeing now is less about intent and more about capacity and experience.

Given the volume of issues (alignment, scaling, quantities, missing designs), the number of unhappy participants, and the need to speak the manufacturer’s language clearly and firmly, it may make sense to loop in one or two additional trusted PCF members to help interface with the company. The goal would be transparency, efficiency, and making sure the right technical and commercial questions are being pressed.

Are there any members who have prior experience working with this manufacturer, or strong print/design/production background, who would be willing to step in and help guide the conversation to take this burden solely off Oscar’s plate?

Tagging a few folks who might be able to assist if willing (there may be others):

@Himewad @doublebooyah85 @Benjaminotaur @TX_Golf_N_Poker

Again, this isn’t about assigning blame, it’s about recognizing that this situation has outgrown a single point of contact and coming together as a community to get the best possible outcome for the group.

For clarity, I’m personally past worrying about my own order at this point. If a clean resolution happens for my own order, great; if not, I’m okay. My concern here is helping the community reach a fair and realistic path forward.

 

[Benjaminotaur]

I want to offer this constructively and with the goal of actually getting to resolution and closure for all impacted.

It’s clear at this point that pushing back on the manufacturer requires a certain level of experience, technical understanding, and comfort applying pressure. That’s hard for anyone, especially when this started as a good-faith community group buy and then ballooned into a yearlong several-thousand-dollar production with hundreds of designs and countless failures.

This isn’t a criticism of Oscar at all. Quite the opposite, this clearly grew far beyond what most people would reasonably expect to manage solo, especially given everything else going on in his life. I think what we’re seeing now is less about intent and more about capacity and experience.

Given the volume of issues (alignment, scaling, quantities, missing designs), the number of unhappy participants, and the need to speak the manufacturer’s language clearly and firmly, it may make sense to loop in one or two additional trusted PCF members to help interface with the company. The goal would be transparency, efficiency, and making sure the right technical and commercial questions are being pressed.

Are there any members who have prior experience working with this manufacturer, or strong print/design/production background, who would be willing to step in and help guide the conversation to take this burden solely off Oscar’s plate?

Tagging a few folks who might be able to assist if willing (there may be others):

@Himewad @doublebooyah85 @Benjaminotaur @TX_Golf_N_Poker

Again, this isn’t about assigning blame, it’s about recognizing that this situation has outgrown a single point of contact and coming together as a community to get the best possible outcome for the group.

For clarity, I’m personally past worrying about my own order at this point. If a clean resolution happens for my own order, great; if not, I’m okay. My concern here is helping the community reach a fair and realistic path forward.

Even if Oscar were to ask me, or anyone, for help in this regard, I’m not sure it would bring anything closer to a resolution.

While I do have a decent background and understanding of this type of product and have considered running a buy like this at some point in the future, I don’t have the relationship with this company, nor the details of this specific order to be able to step in with any authority or credibility.

While it has not been perfect, Oscar has built a relationship with his rep over the last year and has spoken with several other contact points within the company. If anyone else tried to step in and manage things now, I think it would be seen as nothing more than someone trying to strong arm reprints or refunds. And in my experience that is the quickest way to shut things down and not get what you want.

From my perspective, Oscar has been much more transparent with his communication with both us and Plastic Printers, and he was upfront about why he wasn’t on PCF for a week responding to the concerns in this thread. He asked good questions to the vendor to express some of the issues, and i believe will add the questions and concerns added after his update by Triton, Himewad, and BaroneSanitation. Based on those things, I believe Oscar is our best bet to get this thing across the finish line with the best results.

 

[WedgeRock]

And whether redos/reprints are possible on the worst ones

TO be fair, this is all I care about. I don't care if it was the material, the employee or @Okku. I just want a passable version of the cut card I paid for.

 

[Nickname]

What about a mix between what @ChipMonster and @Benjaminotaur said? If Oscar is willing to accept help, I think it would be benefitual for Oscar and all of us if someone could be his sparring partner on this.

 

[KevinPower5]

While it has not been perfect, Oscar has built a relationship with his rep over the last year and has spoken with several other contact points within the company. If anyone else tried to step in and manage things now, I think it would be seen as nothing more than someone trying to strong arm reprints or refunds. And in my experience that is the quickest way to shut things down and not get what you want.

I think anyone could easily help. A short email showing photo proof of the errors in the printing and asking for next steps would more than suffice.

I agree it would carry more weight if it came from Okku himself however he clearly is not going to do that given he is asking about their business practices (who even cares?) instead of asking about a solution from a reputable business. If they agree to a reprint or a partial refund they will confirm (without this back and forth Okku is claiming to have), if not we can put this to bed. Asking these questions about their quality control practice accomplishes literally nothing.

Of course this is all under the assumption that Okku himself didn't edit the files or give the go-ahead on the proofs of already misaligned designs.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Oscar,

Don’t worry about the vendor or hold them accountable.

Simply ask for a refund from the vendor and distribute to everyone that had issues. I would start with asking for 50% of the money back. You never should have shipped these tbh. If you cannot get a refund apologize and move on. Hopefully this is a blimp on the radar in a few years but everyone commenting everyday will never end this.

With that being said, I undertstand the amount of stress this probably has given you. Awful timing and thanks for what you did accomplish.

But keep it simple. Refund and move on. Don’t worry about anything else. Less talk, all action. Explain print errors, get a partial refund or not and move on.

Again, awful life timing and this was way too much work on your end. Mistakes were made but closing this will get everyone to move on and the constant negative feedback, although in good heart and constructive, is exhausting.

 

[Anthrax]

Where is the problem to send the vendor all pictures of the cc which are not ok? There are already several here in the thread. And how many quantities of each design is on the delivery note? Compare that with the ordered cards and ask them where the fuck are these cards we paid for???? This is not complicated! You pay for X, you want X delivered! small alingment issues aside, several designs are messed up. Who apporved them? Oscar? Oscars fault. Period. Vendor messed up? vendor has to reprint them. period. what do I miss here???????

 

[JMC9389]

Oscar,

Don’t worry about the vendor or hold them accountable.

Simply ask for a refund from the vendor and distribute to everyone that had issues. I would start with asking for 50% of the money back. You never should have shipped these tbh. If you cannot get a refund apologize and move on. Hopefully this is a blimp on the radar in a few years but everyone commenting everyday will never end this.

With that being said, I undertstand the amount of stress this probably has given you. Awful timing and thanks for what you did accomplish.

But keep it simple. Refund and move on. Don’t worry about anything else. Less talk, all action. Explain print errors, get a partial refund or not and move on.

Again, awful life timing and this was way too much work on your end. Mistakes were made but closing this will get everyone to move on and the constant negative feedback, although in good heart and constructive, is exhausting.

This is the way to go. Why should a business be paid full retail for shoddy work? Any company worth their salt would stand behind their product and offer a full refund or fix the problem free of charge.

 

[TX_Golf_N_Poker]

I think anyone could easily help. A short email showing photo proof of the errors in the printing and asking for next steps would more than suffice.

I agree it would carry more weight if it came from Okku himself however he clearly is not going to do that given he is asking about their business practices (who even cares?) instead of asking about a solution from a reputable business. If they agree to a reprint or a partial refund they will confirm (without this back and forth Okku is claiming to have), if not we can put this to bed. Asking these questions about their quality control practice accomplishes literally nothing.

Of course this is all under the assumption that Okku himself didn't edit the files or give the go-ahead on the proofs of already misaligned designs.

I think you may have hit on the real issue in your last sentence. I've been thinking the same, but hesitated to come right out and say it. Why else would a company that has a good reputation from many previous encounters with PCF still be pushing back on resolving this? The product they shipped out is clearly about 50% garbage. They have to see that with very little effort. They should clearly be offering to do something to fix it, unless it was Oscar himself who approved all the proofs and made the file edits? If this is the case, then we're all screwed and all this effort we're putting forth is a waste of time.

Oscar, one final time, can you just be 100% up front with us? Did you simply get so busy with the other things in you life that you never really got around to thoroughly reviewing all the proofs, and finally, with all of us on your back to get this going, you just told them to go ahead and print everything as is? And then sent it all out, in hopes that most of it would be okay? If all this is all really your fault, and not the company's fault, then just man up and take your medicine. Then we can all wash our hands of this and stop holding out hope for a resolution.

 

[GamingWithChips]

I have to say, as a human being with a little bit of pride in whatever I do, I physically cannot imagine producing these cards and then looking at them and going " yup looks good to me, ship it!"

As an outsider, not involved in this group buy, I don't know where things went wrong, but I think the company is ultimately responsible. Regarding things being off center on 50% of the files, surely someone at the company went, "hmm, I don't think the client wanted half of these cards clearly off center, nearly falling off the border...oh well."

I just can't see it any other way than the company needing to make this right.

 

[RadicusScout]

This is what I wanted to print and the cards you see below are what I received. Is it 100%? No, but I specifically designed these to be off center and cut off (maybe I had a vision of the future?). For me, these are acceptable.

I want to just say that Oscar did check in on me with this design during this process. Somewhere, somehow, the formatting of this design was messed up and Oscar reached out to double check. I may have been an edge case. I'm not sure. I just wanted to make it known that Oscar did not just blindly throw these designs over to the printer.

(You know, maybe I'm the one to blame for the aggressive shifting of everyone's designs. Maybe they worked on printing my cards first and that calibration threw all the other subsequent cards off)

 

[Josh Kifer]

This is what I wanted to print and the cards you see below are what I received. Is it 100%? No, but I specifically designed these to be off center and cut off (maybe I had a vision of the future?). For me, these are acceptable.

I want to just say that Oscar did check in on me with this design during this process. Somewhere, somehow, the formatting of this design was messed up and Oscar reached out to double check. I may have been an edge case. I'm not sure. I just wanted to make it known that Oscar did not just blindly throw these designs over to the printer.

(You know, maybe I'm the one to blame for the aggressive shifting of everyone's designs. Maybe they worked on printing my cards first and that calibration threw all the other subsequent cards off)


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