When can you refer to a hand as the "Nut XYZ"? (2 Viewers)

Can you refer to a hand that is not the overall nuts on a board as the "Nut boat/flush/straight"?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 66.0%
  • Yes, but only if you win/the actual nuts are not present

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • No

    Votes: 14 29.8%

  • Total voters
    47

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Simple question. If you have the highest straight on a board, and the board makes a flush possible. Can you say you have the "nut straight"?

Similarly, if you have an ace high flush, and the board pairs, can you say you have the "nut flush"?

Vote above. Argue below.
 
Nut "XYZ" is the qualifier. It's fair to say, "I had the nut flush until the board paired." You can even say, "I had the nuts until the board paired."

All kinds of excuses are possible.

"I had the nut quads until the board double paired." ~ @CraigT78 (all 3 times)
 
Nut "XYZ" is the qualifier. It's fair to say, "I had the nut flush until the board paired." You can even say, "I had the nuts until the board paired."

All kinds of excuses are possible.

"I had the nut quads until the board double paired." ~ @CraigT78 (all 3 times)
No "Until". Just "Nut XYZ" when revealing the hand or some similar reference.
 
I'm not sure what I expected reading the title (yes I do), but not this. But, yes.
 
Easy to understand that "nut flush" isn't necessary "the nut hand" overall. But perhaps your query is out of concern of possible angling? Someone stating nut flush hoping an opponent folds better?
 
Nut "XYZ" is the qualifier. It's fair to say, "I had the nut flush until the board paired." You can even say, "I had the nuts until the board paired."

All kinds of excuses are possible.

"I had the nut quads until the board double paired." ~ @CraigT78 (all 3 times)
No. If you don't have the nuts, you can't say nuts.
 
I'm not sure what you're asking but people often refer to the nut flush as the ace high flush even if the board is paired or even if a straight flush is possible, it would still be normal to call the ace high flush the nut flush. Squares, Nits and nubs might disagree.

It's also common to hear people say "nut low" when you have the worst possible hand.
 
Nut flush is always an ace high flush, you can say I have the nut flush, even if the board is paired. The nut straight will always be the highest straight possible given the board.

You can’t always claim the nuts but you can claim the nut flush. It’s just like saying top pair, it’s a clarifying statement without revealing your cards.
 
Nut flush is always an ace high flush, you can say I have the nut flush, even if the board is paired. The nut straight will always be the highest straight possible given the board.

You can’t always claim the nuts but you can claim the nut flush. It’s just like saying top pair, it’s a clarifying statement without revealing your cards.
I am not trying to be agrumentative in the below.

Then can i say nut pair instead of top pair?
 
deez nutz GIF
 
I have always used the term nut x, as in the highest possible straight or flush regardless if the hands were the actual nuts. Never used it in relation to any other hand, i.e it’s not ”nut boat”, it’s top boat imo. Similarily, it’s not ”nut set”, it’s top set. Quads are just quads and if you have my low end straight flush beat it’s not a ”nut straight flush”, it’s ”fuck off”.
 
(the post above mine posted while I was in the middle of very slowly typing this out over coffee but I post anyways). Nut pair not being a thing is irrelevant to thread topic. “Nut” is just best hand for that hand class. But most hands are very biased to either use “top” or “nut” for best

High card - Nut (nut no pair)
Pair - Top
Two pair - Top two
Trips - neither
Set - Top
Straight draw - neither
Straight - Nut
Flush draw - Nut
Flush - Nut
Full house - Top
Quads+: neither
 
(the post above mine posted while I was in the middle of very slowly typing this out over coffee but I post anyways). Nut pair not being a thing is irrelevant to thread topic. “Nut” is just best hand for that hand class. But most hands are very biased to either use “top” or “nut” for best

High card - Nut (nut no pair)
Pair - Top
Two pair - Top two
Trips - neither
Set - Top
Straight draw - neither
Straight - Nut
Flush draw - Nut
Flush - Nut
Full house - Top
Quads+: neither
I hate this so much. "I have the Nuts!" (Turns over Ace high)
 
I mean you can, but....



Confession though: I do love it when someone smiles and says they have the "nut flush" when I'm holding the boat.... lol
 
I like to say I have the nuts when I hero call with bottom pair and the villian turns over a bluff. It’s adjacent to a slow roll.
 
I also use the term lock hand. Like when you have KQ on a KKQ83 board. While it isn’t technically the “nuts”, it can’t be beat, only tied, so I would refer to that as a lock hand.
 
My guess***

I think people often say nut flush and nut straight (even if it’s not the nuts) bc the other player could have a flush/straight and it’s just being polite to announce you have the best of that hand.

It’s more uncommon for multiple players to have two pair, two full houses, etc. hence no need to say “nut full house? But they say top?”
 

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