2/2 cash game chip ratios (1 Viewer)

[platonlato]

Hey fellas,
I need to buy a 750er chip set for a table of 2/2€.
Now first of all, 1/2, 1/3 or this stuff is uncommon over here. I read in the beginners faq that you should avoid 2,10 and 50s but thats exactly the chips I need so I assume that was meant for things like 1/3?

Anyway, I buy 750 chips and need atleast like 15-20k €(it can get wild). Denominations be 2,10,50 as main chips and 100 as needed. On a sidenote I later plan on adding 5k in 500s plaques because its cool right.

Any help is appreciated fellas.

 

[Jeevansluck]

Welcome to the site!

How many players normally play in the game? I’m not accustomed to playing with the denoms you need, but it’s pretty cool.

If I had to have 750 chips…for 2/2, I suppose the $10 is the workhorse.

I’d build it like this…

1 rack of $2 ($200)
5 racks of $10 ($5000)
1-2 racks of $50 ($10K)

..not quite 750, maybe a few MOAR! Haha!

If you have more players than I’m thinking, then add more $2s for blinds and maybe a rack of $10s.

You can relabel any number of chips to achieve these ends. Must be a hell of a cash game.

Good luck and have fun with the build.

 

[allforcharity]

You can do 2, 10, 50 if you want.

You can also do 1 (or 2), 5, 25, 100 if you want something more common/easier to obtain.

 

[platonlato]

Welcome to the site!

How many players normally play in the game? I’m not accustomed to playing with the denoms you need, but it’s pretty cool.

If I had to have 750 chips…for 2/2, I suppose the $10 is the workhorse.

I’d build it like this…

1 rack of $2 ($200)
5 racks of $10 ($5000)
1-2 racks of $50 ($10K)

..not quite 750, maybe a few MOAR! Haha!

If you have more players than I’m thinking, then add more $2s for blinds and maybe a rack of $10s.

You can relabel any number of chips to achieve these ends. Must be a hell of a cash game.

Good luck and have fun with the build.

2/2 is very common here in €. I wonder why it isnt in the states. I like it too because people cant bet stupid stuff like 21 or so, these types of bets thar have the dealer exchanging a lot sometimes.
Anyway, I think that ratio works although id do more 2s.

I wonder though, why did you decide to do no 100s.

On a sidenote, how much does the average poker player like proper plaque, I feel like its high, yet theyre rare at cash games ofc.

 

[RocAFella1]

2/2 is very common here in €. I wonder why it isnt in the states. I like it too because people cant bet stupid stuff like 21 or so, these types of bets thar have the dealer exchanging a lot sometimes.

Is 21 that much stupider than something like 66 or 112?

 

[platonlato]

Is 21 that much stupider than something like 66 or 112

I see where youre coming from. But to bet 21 properly, you need 5 chips, 4x5 and 1x1. Like my experience with american games has been that stacks get frickin huge or has that just been my experience that ppl build towers with 5s instead of keeping the stacks more efficiently distributed.

For 1/3 you need 3 chips for a big blind instead of 1. You see what i mean, it just gets bigger in volume than with 2/10/50.
But who the hell, to each their own right. I suppose people in my country just really prefer 2/2 or 2/4 as main cash game blinds, then 5/10.

 

[doublebooyah85]

I see where youre coming from. But to bet 21 properly, you need 5 chips, 4x5 and 1x1. Like my experience with american games has been that stacks get frickin huge or has that just been my experience that ppl build towers with 5s instead of keeping the stacks more efficiently distributed.

For 1/3 you need 3 chips for a big blind instead of 1. You see what i mean, it just gets bigger in volume than with 2/10/50.
But who the hell, to each their own right. I suppose people in my country just really prefer 2/2 or 2/4 as main cash game blinds, then 5/10.

Well yeaaaaah! lol

 

[platonlato]

Well yeaaaaah! lol

Well ya what pal

 

[Mojo1312]

Nice to have a big game. 750 chips may not be enough for a full ring.

Based on the above, a breakdown of 150 2€ chips, 500 10€ chips and 200 50€ chips and a rack of a hundred's should work fine, although you would know better than I if you will need two racks of 2€'s.

 

[Jeevansluck]

2/2 is very common here in €. I wonder why it isnt in the states. I like it too because people cant bet stupid stuff like 21 or so, these types of bets thar have the dealer exchanging a lot sometimes.
Anyway, I think that ratio works although id do more 2s.

I wonder though, why did you decide to do no 100s.

On a sidenote, how much does the average poker player like proper plaque, I feel like its high, yet theyre rare at cash games ofc.

I didn’t add $100s because I misread your OP. I saw you wanted 2/10/50 and missed the 100. I’d simply have a rack of $50 and rack of $100 in this case.

Additionally, I love the plaque for a home game. I have a few myself. They look like our CDN $50 and $100, kinda cool. Hope to degen enough someday to get them in play.

 

[platonlato]

I didn’t add $100s because I misread your OP. I saw you wanted 2/10/50 and missed the 100. I’d simply have a rack of $50 and rack of $100 in this case.

Additionally, I love the plaque for a home game. I have a few myself. They look like our CDN $50 and $100, kinda cool. Hope to degen enough someday to get them in play.

Makes you feel all highroller to use a plaque right. Especially the good plaques.

 

[Eriks]

Welcome fellow European!

Sounds like a nice game. If you really want to be chip efficient, you could just as well go 2/10/50/200.

Well ya what pal

Relax, he’s jokingly acknowledging that he’s one of those $5-chip tower builders. Lots of love for having plenty of 5s around here. Myself, I’m somewhere in between.

/the neutral Swede

 

[LeLe]

I think you can skip $50 and just go for $100 .

$2/$10/$100

$2 x 100
$10 x 400
$100 x 200

50 more chips can be added at $2 but 100 $2 is sufficient.

 

[BELGRADE]

I think you can skip $50 and just go for $100 .

$2/$10/$100

$2 x 100
$10 x 400
$100 x 200

I agree.
When I play 2-2 I don't use 50s which are useless.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Well ya what pal

Silly Americans likes castles and stacks and stacks of $5s lol

 

[Marius L]

I think 2/10/100 is pretty common when playing 2/2. 50s are not really needed.

I would do more than 100x €2. Probably 140, and wouldn't mind 200 to be honest.

I'd probably do something like this for 750 chips, but you could get by just fine with less chips.
200x €2. (€400)
400x €10. (€4000)
140x €100. (€14000)
10x €1000. (€10000)

Edit: didn't realize you are making €500 plaques, so the 10 x €1000 chips I suggested doesn’t make sense. But they would serve the same purpose as your €500s, in simply adding some bank for the super crazy nights!)


Here's a couple photos from playing €2/€2 in Spielbank Berlin.
Orange €2s, green €10s and yellow €100.

 

[Santa123]

 

[platonlato]

Silly Americans likes castles and stacks and stacks of $5s lol

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Yea haha, ive literally never seen that in €.
Here the stack would be atleast 70€ smaller. Tbh its also easier for the dealer to count 50s than this.
Look like good clay chips tho

 

[doublebooyah85]

Yea haha, ive literally never seen that in €.
Here the stack would be atleast 70€ smaller. Tbh its also easier for the dealer to count 50s than this.
Look like good clay chips tho

It’s not efficient lol just fun!

Those are leaded starbursts from the 1980-90s a friend of mine has. Thanks!

Good luck with your chip set!

I like the idea of the $2 chip, I almost kept my jack Cincy $2 but I went for a relabel $1 bc it’s more common in the states and my players already got confused too much when I tried a $20 denomination.

 

[platonlato]

I think 2/10/100 is pretty common when playing 2/2. 50s are not really needed.

I would do more than 100x €2. Probably 140, and wouldn't mind 200 to be honest.

I'd probably do something like this for 750 chips, but you could get by just fine with less chips.
200x €2. (€400)
400x €10. (€4000)
140x €100. (€14000)
10x €1000. (€10000)

Edit: didn't realize you are making €500 plaques, so the 10 x €1000 chips I suggested doesn’t make sense. But they would serve the same purpose as your €500s, in simply adding some bank for the super crazy nights!)


Here's a couple photos from playing €2/€2 in Spielbank Berlin.
Orange €2s, green €10s and yellow €100.
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I think id still stick with 50s mostly because I do agree with the americans that having somewhat of size to a stack has an appeal. Not too much but not as little either.
If we do

200x2= 400€
350x10= 3500€
150x50= 7500€
50x100= 5000€

What do you think about this?
And then later some nice plaques for 500€. Ive seen them starting from 1000€ but i feel like ppl would enjoy using them.
And with the 50s the stack size is more inflated although i might be biased because the casino I grew up in mainly used 2,10,50 for 2/4€. Barely even 100s at all.

Do you agree theres a balance between efficiency(fast counting) and keeping it moderately sized as well?

 

[platonlato]

It’s not efficient lol just fun!

Those are leaded starbursts from the 1980-90s a friend of mine has. Thanks!

Good luck with your chip set!

I like the idea of the $2 chip, I almost kept my jack Cincy $2 but I went for a relabel $1 bc it’s more common in the states and my players already got confused too much when I tried a $20 denomination.

I meant 70% ofc instead.
Tbh thinking back to my croupier times, I get nightmares seeing these giant stacks haha because theres always people having them unehen or towers mixed with random denominations.

But since ill pay ca. 500€ for the ceramic chips, I just wanna make sure i got the best possible ratio.
I really appreciate all the perspectives here.

 

[cpac54]

Did somebody say something about stacks of chips?

 

[platonlato]

Did somebody say something about stacks of chips?

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Haha great man. I get the appeal but if you did this at a 2/2 table here with TONS of 2€ chips and 10s instead mostly 50s, ppl and the cssino would think youre totally nuts.

 

[cpac54]

In all seriousness, Switzerland must be an anomaly in terms of NLHE stakes vs. Europe then. The lowest casino stakes here are 5/5 (although Casino Liechtenstein offers 1/2 and that's the standard low-limit at the private poker rooms near me).

For 2/2, I'd be inclined to go with denoms of 1/5/25/100, but if forced to used 2/10/50, I like @Marius L's breakdown above. As others have said, go with either a 50 or 100, there's no need for both, especially as you seem to be going for a more efficient breakdown vs. moar chips.

As for plaques, not for me, but maybe that's just the N. American in me talking. I don't even like mixing 43mm IHCs with 39m THCs in the same set, let alone introducing completely different types of currency. In the end, it's your set though, so do whatever makes you happy!

 

[Santa123]

Did somebody say something about stacks of chips?

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You have snappers under your green chip?
I think you are little short on your 5s just kidding.

 

[cpac54]

You have snappers under your green chip?
I think you are little short on your 5s just kidding.

IG Snappers, re-purposed as fracs.

 

[platonlato]

In all seriousness, Switzerland must be an anomaly in terms of NLHE stakes vs. Europe then. The lowest casino stakes here are 5/5 (although Casino Liechtenstein offers 1/2 and that's the standard low-limit at the private poker rooms near me).

For 2/2, I'd be inclined to go with denoms of 1/5/25/100, but if forced to used 2/10/50, I like @Marius L's breakdown above. As others have said, go with either a 50 or 100, there's no need for both, especially as you seem to be going for a more efficient breakdown vs. moar chips.

As for plaques, not for me, but maybe that's just the N. American in me talking. I don't even like mixing 43mm IHCs with 39m THCs in the same set, let alone introducing completely different types of currency. In the end, it's your set though, so do whatever makes you happy!

In Westgermany 2-4 is the most common blind, played with 2/10/50 primarily.
Then 5/5 or 5/10 as the higher blind level. Higher than that only in some casinos. Remember, we dont have poker only rooms. Poker is always an afterrhought here compared to america.
But casino rake here is the bomb, i think might be lowest in the entire world near me.

 

[platonlato]

In all seriousness, Switzerland must be an anomaly in terms of NLHE stakes vs. Europe then. The lowest casino stakes here are 5/5 (although Casino Liechtenstein offers 1/2 and that's the standard low-limit at the private poker rooms near me).

For 2/2, I'd be inclined to go with denoms of 1/5/25/100, but if forced to used 2/10/50, I like @Marius L's breakdown above. As others have said, go with either a 50 or 100, there's no need for both, especially as you seem to be going for a more efficient breakdown vs. moar chips.

As for plaques, not for me, but maybe that's just the N. American in me talking. I don't even like mixing 43mm IHCs with 39m THCs in the same set, let alone introducing completely different types of currency. In the end, it's your set though, so do whatever makes you happy!

Also good point, probably shouldnt use 100s. 50s are good enough as main high chips while still somewhat making stacks bigger.
But then I wonder, it would be weird using a 500€ plaque while not having a 100 chip. Doesnt this seem weird

 

[platonlato]

I agree.
When I play 2-2 I don't use 50s which are useless.

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I mean why useless. If I spend my last tens on a call and then call 20€ with a 100chip, i need to receive 8x10 chips.
With 50s only 3.

Isnt 50s instead 100s better if you got enough chips? Plus it gets you bigger stacks which many like.
You wouldnt need so many 2s, thats 64€ in 2s, and not so many 10s but instead 50s.

But ultimately much of this is probably preference.

 

[Marius L]

Also good point, probably shouldnt use 100s. 50s are good enough as main high chips while still somewhat making stacks bigger.
But then I wonder, it would be weird using a 500€ plaque while not having a 100 chip. Doesnt this seem weird

I agree with the others that having both 50s and 100s is excessive. Go for one of them. Either of them will work just fine, imo. Maybe get slightly more 50s and less 10s if you go that route, compared to 100s and 10s. If you have enough €50s it shouldn't be a problem jumping up to €500 next. The €500 would be used mostly as a value storage, and likely would be used very rarely for making actual bets.

200x 2. (400)
300x 10. (3000)
200x 50 (10000)
20x 500 plaques (10000)
Seems good to me.

Don't think you need as many 10s when you pair them with 50s as when you pair them with 100s. (Especially if you aren't really looking for huge stacks)