Did somebody slip one past the goalie, or are you all just planning? (1 Viewer)

[upNdown]

Probably the most disturbing scene from that movie. Does anybody want to see Joe Pesci getting physically romantical with Marisa Tomei?

 

[Thomacetti]

Does anybody want to see Joe Pesci getting physically romantical with Marisa Tomei?

 

[tabletalker7]

Does anybody want to see Joe Pesci getting physically romantical with Marisa Tomei?

 

[HaRDHouSeiNC]

Probably the most disturbing scene from that movie. Does anybody want to see Joe Pesci getting physically romantical with Marisa Tomei?

 

[Poker Zombie]

Probably the most disturbing scene from that movie. Does anybody want to see Joe Pesci getting physically romantical with Marisa Tomei?

I gotta be honest. When Marisa Tomei is in the scene, you could add 10 naked dancing clowns, and all I will see is Marisa Tomei.

 

[RivieraDanny]

The chipping market is completely dead, everyone cut your losses and sell your old tired clay disks while you still can!
I myself will no longer be investing in clay disks. I’ve resorted to only spending future disposable income on fine wine………..View attachment 871297
Shoes that make me look taller………View attachment 871302
Fine cigars…………View attachment 871298
beers with degenerates you meet in airport bars………View attachment 871303
Catching huge fish on the beach……..View attachment 871300
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BING BONG the chips are dead the wicked chips are dead, get the hell out while you still can!

And Golf! I saw you golfing last week................

 

[slisk250]

The chipping market is completely dead, everyone cut your losses and sell your old tired clay disks while you still can!
I myself will no longer be investing in clay disks. I’ve resorted to only spending future disposable income on fine wine………..View attachment 871297

I just stumbled across this…WTF. I was just there. I only got to see the cat Hahaha

Im glad I had no interest in the market once things got a bit ridiculous. Didn’t even know what was going on until someone pinged me In 2020. What do I think about all that has happened during that time? Don’t really give a shit, I play customs. It is sad that thousands of chips that would otherwise get used somewhere will sit in closets and cases because nobody has the money to complete sets or they won’t sell losing up to 50%. Nobody needs 200 sets (maybe @ovo does but he gets a free pass in my world because he is old school baby). No NAGB chip ever made is worth 20 bucks. 10 bucks was the market for the highest of those chips imo. When it went north of that, certain folks with my mindset won’t buy regardless of their finances…it’s just stupid. Same when a pm appears asking for my chips….ahhhh no…or offering to sell RP chips at 20 bucks per…ahhhh no.…CPC had to absolutely love this crap. I’m going to have dinner with David soon and laugh about all that. Now if a GPI opportunity arose and I had a shot at something like what bergs was able to make, sure I’d make 20,000 Rosies and not a single chip would leave my house…ever.

 

[JMC9389]

I just stumbled across this…WTF. I was just there. I only got to see the cat Hahaha

Im glad I had no interest in the market once things got a bit ridiculous. Didn’t even know what was going on until someone pinged me In 2020. What do I think about all that has happened during that time? Don’t really give a shit, I play customs. It is sad that thousands of chips that would otherwise get used somewhere will sit in closets and cases because nobody has the money to complete sets or they won’t sell losing up to 50%. Nobody needs 200 sets (maybe @ovo does but he gets a free pass in my world because he is old school baby). No NAGB chip ever made is worth 20 bucks. 10 bucks was the market for the highest of those chips imo. When it went north of that, certain folks with my mindset won’t buy regardless of their finances…it’s just stupid. Same when a pm appears asking for my chips….ahhhh no…or offering to sell RP chips at 20 bucks per…ahhhh no.…CPC had to absolutely love this crap. I’m going to have dinner with David soon and laugh about all that. Now if a GPI opportunity arose and I had a shot at something like what bergs was able to make, sure I’d make 20,000 Rosies and not a single chip would leave my house…ever.

Amen.

This. Just....all of this.

On the bolded, the record long order book at CPC absolutely confirms this. Their wait times are now nearing 15 months between one run of a mold to the next, even the popular ones. It would not shock me to see wait times approach two years before business starts dropping off because of said wait times.

I'm very close to being at your stage in the journey as well. If prices continue to increase on Paulsons and the BCC sets, it's going to get to a point where it's going to be absolutely silly to not sell simply because the money will be able to be allocated to a better place for my two young children.

I currently have a cash and tournament set each of CPC's. Two more CPC cash sets on the way this year. One more tournament that's going to be ordered next year. I have an idea for another cash and tournament set with the same theme. Four cash sets and three tournament sets. Easy peasy. Plenty.

 

[SteveEH]

Now if a GPI opportunity arose and I had a shot at something like what bergs was able to make, sure I’d make 20,000 Rosies and not a single chip would leave my house…ever.

This, and only this.

 

[JeepologyOffroad]

I am grateful in a way. If the trading of Paulsons didn’t come to such a halt I would’ve never discovered how great cpc can be

 

[Lil Tuna]

I just stumbled across this…WTF. I was just there. I only got to see the cat Hahaha

Im glad I had no interest in the market once things got a bit ridiculous. Didn’t even know what was going on until someone pinged me In 2020. What do I think about all that has happened during that time? Don’t really give a shit, I play customs. It is sad that thousands of chips that would otherwise get used somewhere will sit in closets and cases because nobody has the money to complete sets or they won’t sell losing up to 50%. Nobody needs 200 sets (maybe @ovo does but he gets a free pass in my world because he is old school baby). No NAGB chip ever made is worth 20 bucks. 10 bucks was the market for the highest of those chips imo. When it went north of that, certain folks with my mindset won’t buy regardless of their finances…it’s just stupid. Same when a pm appears asking for my chips….ahhhh no…or offering to sell RP chips at 20 bucks per…ahhhh no.…CPC had to absolutely love this crap. I’m going to have dinner with David soon and laugh about all that. Now if a GPI opportunity arose and I had a shot at something like what bergs was able to make, sure I’d make 20,000 Rosies and not a single chip would leave my house…ever.

Just more incentive to come back for another visit Mike. I did show you the REALLY GOOD STUFF though.

 

[khp]

Does PCF know the estimated cost per chip for the NAGB Paulsons? I want to see how it compares to CP

 

[JMC9389]

Does PCF know the estimated cost per chip for the NAGB Paulsons? I want to see how it compares to CP

For standard 39mm chips? Sub $2 per chip.

 

[slisk250]

Does PCF know the estimated cost per chip for the NAGB Paulsons? I want to see how it compares to CP

Estimated? Dude we know exactly what they cost. Whoever was in the RP buy may as well been printing money with people willing to pay 20 a chip.

 

[ImCrossland]

Estimated? Dude we know exactly what they cost. Whoever was in the RP buy may as well been printing money with people willing to pay 20 a chip.

 

[Windwalker]

Does PCF know the estimated cost per chip for the NAGB Paulsons? I want to see how it compares to CP

Depends on quantity and features chosen. Can be as high as $2.20/chip and as low as $0.91/chip.

 

[buffalojim]

Cool thread.

 

[khp]

Depends on quantity and features chosen. Can be as high as $2.20/chip and as low as $0.91/chip.

Good to know. Thank you!

Interesting that Paulson’s most intricate chip is $2.20 while CPCs are $5+

 

[buffalojim]

Good to know. Thank you!

Interesting that Paulson’s most intricate chip is $2.20 while CPCs are $5+

When you're basically the only game in town you can charge a bit more, although I'm sure there's more to it than that.

 

[AlbinoDragon]

CPC's are made by hand, one at at time. That probably has something to do with it too....

 

[Windwalker]

Good to know. Thank you!

Interesting that Paulson’s most intricate chip is $2.20 while CPCs are $5+

To clarify, that’s the price range for casinos who order from GPI. I assume most NAGB purchases fall within that range.

 

[allforcharity]

For standard 39mm chips? Sub $2 per chip.

I think the Star chips averaged around $1.25 per. And that includes the premium for the small Bud Jones portion.

 

[Lil Tuna]

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[horseshoez]

As the man accused of having his "finger on the pulse of PCF"... how about a opinionated mission statement on the current chip market.

So with our "top tier buyer" now in the sell off phase and not driving prices sky high, those looking to hold out on "cashing in for top dollar" have likely missed their window. Much like the housing market and stock market...you missed the window on super inflation.

The second tier buyers that came in during the pandemic guns blazing and buying up all of the "good stuff that fell through the cracks" have had time to reflect... they have figured out what their dreams sets are and pushing forward to finish those projects and in turn putting up some massive trade bait to make it happen. They are hitting their 18 - 24 month window of figuring out exactly what they want.

I can tell you that Ben/Brie selling chips is only to build a set of existing chips, I am not cool enough to be in this illuminati club that everyone thinks exists. Just us selling off what we are not using to build something else... quite common in this hobby.

So we all know just before the Holidays is typically a big sell session and becomes a buyers market (happens every year) roll that into late winter/early spring which is Tax season. Lots of folks suddenly have extra funds buring a hole in their pockets, and always folks lookin to get a piece of that extra money.

Let's not forget "global issues" lots of question mark's on where the e economy will go moving forward. This typically causes scares and makes people want to dump their equity and start storing cash in coffee cans... in layman's terms.

Many believe with the top investor bowing out and even trying to move some chips with little success that this market is resetting itself slightly. Those that know they paid heavy inflated prices for what they have are worried they may have to take major losses to recoupe what they can. Hence why many seasoned veteran chippers have just sat back, made some huge profits, no major purchases... just riding the storm of "new incumbent covid chippers" let them flex and spent their money... eventually we have to find the ceiling of this madness and things will naturally balance back out. Some people are going to loose like when any market resets. Its not going to be the veterans riding the storm out either.

Soo sell while the water is still warm! Have we reached the summit? Well 6 - 8 months ago I think @RivieraDanny Isle set would have sold for $3 - $4 a chip easy and went for sub $2.50 per chip... so the answer is... who knows. Lol TRKs are still selling for insane prices... but definitely seems like things are balancing out a bit.

Also keep in mind that a few of the "big hitters" are still licking their wounds and recovering from the Royal Pricess buy, depleted bank accounts means no extra funds to throw about.

So all of this means sell, sell, sell... and there will always be a few folks that translate that to "there must be another NAGB in the works!" Pretty damn typical around these parts. I don't think it is true, I think a lot of people look at chips from the "investment" angle and suddenly those values may be on the downward slope and some folks are trying to recoup what they can.

Again just a stupid uneducated redneck construction workers opinion... maybe I am totally out to lunch here, but I don't think I am too far off on that one.

I personally think drugs are bad. Very bad.

 

[Mike mac]

anyone know the order minimum for an order from GPI Japan?

 

[SiouxperStack]

I think the Star chips averaged around $1.25 per. And that includes the premium for the small Bud Jones portion.

I thought I read that the artist for the Sunset Beach chips said the most expensive chip from the buy was the Black chip @ $1.50. I can’t remember the name of that thread but I’d love to revisit it.

 

[Ben8257]

CPC's are made by hand, one at at time. That probably has something to do with it too....

Average income in Mexico (where Paulsons are made) $16,771

Average income in Maine (where CPCs are made) $29,808

May have something to do with it as well.

 

[Ben8257]

I personally think drugs are bad. Very bad.

Insinuating that I am on them? Brother I don't even take Advil. But find another post with a reaction score of 32 without a single picture, everyone has the option to scroll on past when they see a Ben Book, I give a warning in the Header. I think it takes guts to put your opinions out there on an internet forum, hope that newer members can learn from it and that cross your fingers that you are like minded with the veterans (elders of the hobby). The 3:1 reaction score ratio is important to some of us, some get there from posting amazing pictures of beautiful chips, not all of us have that amazing collection, some get there with jokes and halarious content. Some of us strive to get there through useful commentary.

I get messages regularly thanking me for my Ben books, if I can help a few people try to understand the insanity this market has seen recently, well that is good enough for me. One accuses me of doing drugs whilst 30 plus enjoy the message... I can live with that ratio.

 

[detroitdad]

Insinuating that I am on them? Brother I don't even take Advil. But find anot

I made it this.....

 

[Lil Tuna]

Insinuating that I am on them? Brother I don't even take Advil. But find another post with a reaction score of 32 without a single picture, everyone has the option to scroll on past when they see a Ben Book, I give a warning in the Header. I think it takes guts to put your opinions out there on an internet forum, hope that newer members can learn from it and that cross your fingers that you are like minded with the veterans (elders of the hobby). The 3:1 reaction score ratio is important to some of us, some get there from posting amazing pictures of beautiful chips, not all of us have that amazing collection, some get there with jokes and halarious content. Some of us strive to get there through useful commentary.

I get messages regularly thanking me for my Ben books, if I can help a few people try to understand the insanity this market has seen recently, well that is good enough for me. One accuses me of doing drugs whilst 30 plus enjoy the message... I can live with that ratio.