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Canceled Kem Bridge Cards (1 Viewer)
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I have 4 poker size jumbos KEMS and only one has a very slight bend. It is still very usable. Do the standard bridge KEM tend to warp more?
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I've tried Copag and a few others. The reason I prefer KEMs are because they are flexible and really easy to shuffle for me. Having to stiff of cards is not of my hand liking.
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I haven't tried Desjgn or Del Negro. Those are the next up in line for flexible. Not sure if I can look past the diamond design on Desjgn though.
Check out this eBay listing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/152686912359
These Fournier cards are 100% plastic, unlike the cellulose-acetate of KEMs, so they don't warp, and in my opinion they're plenty flexible (though I think Copags are fine, flexibility-wise, so YMMV). They're essentially brand new, having only been used at the 2012 WSOP for a couple hours. 4 setups (8 decks) for $18.72 shipped is less than $5/setup!
I bought from this seller a few months ago. He had an even cheaper 14-setup listing that I split with friends. I kept four setups, looked through all the cards and pulled out 4 cards that weren't pristine, under 1%. I basically can rotate between 3 clean setups and use the 4th to swap out cards.
(In reality, I'm only using one setup so I have plenty of backups. And they held up great in play. Some of my players are older and they hold the cards in their hands or hold them up to their face to see, and the cards came out unscathed!)
Check out this thread for more info: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/card-aficionados-found-a-new-favorite-id-please.79348/
These Fournier cards are 100% plastic, unlike the cellulose-acetate of KEMs, so they don't warp, and in my opinion they're plenty flexible (though I think Copags are fine, flexibility-wise, so YMMV). They're essentially brand new, having only been used at the 2012 WSOP for a couple hours. 4 setups (8 decks) for $18.72 shipped is less than $5/setup!
I bought from this seller a few months ago. He had an even cheaper 14-setup listing that I split with friends. I kept four setups, looked through all the cards and pulled out 4 cards that weren't pristine, under 1%. I basically can rotate between 3 clean setups and use the 4th to swap out cards.
(In reality, I'm only using one setup so I have plenty of backups. And they held up great in play. Some of my players are older and they hold the cards in their hands or hold them up to their face to see, and the cards came out unscathed!)
Check out this thread for more info: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/card-aficionados-found-a-new-favorite-id-please.79348/
Also, they're bridge size, standard index, like you're looking for! And if they turn out not to be flexible enough to your liking, you're only out less than $20 (and you can probably resell them to PCF members to recoup some of your cost).
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That same seller also has a 12 setup option right now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133335288353?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
When I bought from him a couple months ago, he sent me 14 setups and a dealer button for the same price. They probably aren't his "last one" as it says. If it disappears because someone bought them, wait patiently and they will likely show up again.
These have been the favorites of my group for some time now. Perfect flex for me, definitely less than Copag.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133335288353?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
When I bought from him a couple months ago, he sent me 14 setups and a dealer button for the same price. They probably aren't his "last one" as it says. If it disappears because someone bought them, wait patiently and they will likely show up again.
These have been the favorites of my group for some time now. Perfect flex for me, definitely less than Copag.
Weird! I looked at the seller’s page before posting the link to the 4-setup listing and didn’t see the 12-setup listing where he throws in an extra 2 setups for 14 total.
There’s only one available so someone should jump on it!
He definitely has more, like thousands. He had to agree to take the whole lot from that year and told me it cost him quite a bit in freight or something. The reason he doesn’t list all of them at once is because he goes through each setup by hand and pulls out marked or damaged cards and replaces them from other setups, so it’s time consuming to put together even one bundle of 12-14 clean setups.
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I goofed when I typed this. They have more flex than Copag. They are very nice to shuffle and pitch.
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Well that sold me now. I thought you meant they were less flexible than Copags earlier.
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Just got some. Hell of a deal. Haha at that rate I thought I needed more than 8 decks lol. 8 is enough for me. Design I can look pass since it's a deal and it doesn't have the odd blue lining on the face cards. Not sure who's idea was to throw blue linings in.
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Hell of a deal indeed!
I hope you enjoy them. As I said easily my favorites as well as for my group.
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You’ve got a PM.
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Just received the cards and so far I like them. KEMs are still my favorite to shuffle. But given the drawbacks, an alternative must be found and these seem to fill the place. Any cards to look at that are close to KEM's shuffling/flexibility ease, but with durability?
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The easiest cards to find that have comparable flex to KEMs are Modiano. But Modiano tends to be a dirty word around here, since they screwed over DesJgn pretty badly.
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I've tried Cartamundi and they noticable smoother than these Fournier. According to Hobbyphilic, Dal Negro and Desjgn are next in line for flexibility.
Try to find another cellulose-acetate type with a high flex rating here: https://www.pokerchipforum.com/resources/the-redneck-poker-card-database-2-0.76/
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Do other cellulose-acetate cards warp and brittle like KEMs?
From what I hear, yes they can suffer from the same issues.
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