Testing a forum member’s suggestion (54 Viewers)

[Knipedrums]

Someone in a thread I was following suggested purchasing 1” sanding pad for dremel and using it to sand down a chip instead of milling. I purchased a few of these handy pads and am testing it on some cheap super diamonds. The super diamonds need some relief if I ever hope to label them. The chips feel amazing but labels will not stay unless they are mad or be smoother in the center.

unfortunately my dremel shit the bed and I need to get some new brushes.

I am also going to mill these down with my drill press to see which works better. Just after a few passes I can see that the dremel workstation will take many passes to get the label area smooth. But if that is all you have it will work.

i will continue to work on this side project for fun.

Thanks for all the ideas, this is a great forum. TK

 

[allforcharity]

I asked about this scenario some time ago. I was warned off by @Gear . I appreciate his experience. Went the undermount router method, worked well enough for me.
I can see one more milling project in my future.

 

[Eloe2000]

Thanks for sharing the experiment!

 

[Knipedrums]

The issue I see is uneven pressure where milling them would be more accurate. Since the super diamonds are cheap I am going to mill them and experiment more to see where it leads.
Other than uneven pressure, the sanding is a multi step process so that can be time consuming. At that point it would be more cost effective to mill them.
TK

 

[Josh Kifer]

The issue I see is uneven pressure where milling them would be more accurate. Since the super diamonds are cheap I am going to mill them and experiment more to see where it leads.
Other than uneven pressure, the sanding is a multi step process so that can be time consuming. At that point it would be more cost effective to mill them.
TK

Milling takes 3-4 seconds a chip, and it leaves the bottom not flat, but a slight curve for the label. I'd think sanding would just make it flat. Not sure the advantages of this.

 

[Knipedrums]

Milling takes 3-4 seconds a chip, and it leaves the bottom not flat, but a slight curve for the label. I'd think sanding would just make it flat. Not sure the advantages of this.

I really don’t think there is an advantage, just trying a different way to recess the area got a label.

 

[Nogbert]

sorry to revive a dead thread, but wouldn't this sanding method be ideal for "milling" hot stamped chips that presumably only need a few fractions of a mm removed? i would imagine it could allow easier DIY hot stamping too?

 

[Josh Kifer]

Someone in a thread I was following suggested purchasing 1” sanding pad for dremel and using it to sand down a chip instead of milling. I purchased a few of these handy pads and am testing it on some cheap super diamonds. The super diamonds need some relief if I ever hope to label them. The chips feel amazing but labels will not stay unless they are mad or be smoother in the center.

unfortunately my dremel shit the bed and I need to get some new brushes.

I am also going to mill these down with my drill press to see which works better. Just after a few passes I can see that the dremel workstation will take many passes to get the label area smooth. But if that is all you have it will work.

i will continue to work on this side project for fun.

Thanks for all the ideas, this is a great forum. TK

No.

 

[Josh Kifer]

sorry to revive a dead thread, but wouldn't this sanding method be ideal for "milling" hot stamped chips that presumably only need a few fractions of a mm removed? i would imagine it could allow easier DIY hot stamping too?

No. It doesn't work.

 

[Nogbert]

No. It doesn't work.

what if you used a rigid sanding surface rather than the foam pad type? think a squarely cut dowel with sand paper on the end.

 

[Josh Kifer]

what if you used a rigid sanding surface rather than the foam pad type? think a squarely cut dowel with sand paper on the end.

I've tried multiple ways. Every way failed. Milling is the way and unless you are hand sanding with a fine grit, it'll ruin the chip for hot stamping. You need all the clay you can get to add another stamp to it. Any mechanical sanding method will take too much, and a proper milling will look nearly original. People just normally mill too deep.

What's the problem you are trying to solve?

 

[Josh Kifer]

And someone has found the way to hand sand a hot stamp into a blank. But the time invested is crazyballs and would be nearly impossible on multiple racks. I know I don't got that kinda patience.

 

[Nogbert]

I've tried multiple ways. Every way failed. Milling is the way and unless you are hand sanding with a fine grit, it'll ruin the chip for hot stamping. You need all the clay you can get to add another stamp to it. Any mechanical sanding method will take too much, and a proper milling will look nearly original. People just normally mill too deep.

What's the problem you are trying to solve?

no problem to solve, just wondering. Lots of the pictures of milling i've seen show pretty substatial shavings that seem inconsistent with how shallow most hot stamps are. Why are you being so hostile about this?

 

[Josh Kifer]

no problem to solve, just wondering. Lots of the pictures of milling i've seen show pretty substatial shavings that seem inconsistent with how shallow most hot stamps are. Why are you being so hostile about this?

Lol. I'm being hostile??!

Hahahahahahah. Nah, I'm literally answering your questions. Oh lord.

 

[Josh Kifer]

no problem to solve, just wondering. Lots of the pictures of milling i've seen show pretty substatial shavings that seem inconsistent with how shallow most hot stamps are. Why are you being so hostile about this?

I'm the milling and hot stamp guy, who's done this for years ..

So instead of being defensive, remove that idea and look at it from someone actually trying to answer the question. I LITERALLY said nothing rude or hostile.

Wooooowwww

 

[RocAFella1]

I'm the milling and hot stamp guy, who's done this for years ..

So instead of being defensive, remove that idea and look at it from someone actually trying to answer the question. I LITERALLY said nothing rude or hostile.

 

[Josh Kifer]

This is how I get radicalized into @ekricket....

 

[Josh Kifer]

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You sonofabitch.

 

[RocAFella1]

This is how I get radicalized into @ekricket....

@ekifer

 

[Josh Kifer]

@ekifer

 

[Sprouty]

 

[Josh Kifer]