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Omaha you say?
Apparently, quoting OP's reference to playing PLO in this 'NLHE only' thread is verboten.
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The Return of Av8tion - Poker as an Income Stream (2 Viewers)
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Apparently, quoting OP's reference to playing PLO in this 'NLHE only' thread is verboten.
Pretty fair hourly rate to do something you enjoy.
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@WedgeRock @TheDuke @Goldfish
What are you guys talking about? I don't play PLO... I only play hold'em.... This isn't a PLO thread, that's @Anthony Martino's thread
What are you guys talking about? I don't play PLO... I only play hold'em.... This isn't a PLO thread, that's @Anthony Martino's thread
TheDuke
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I can delete my post.
My bad. I thought he was playing 1-3 plo. I will delete.
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MrCatPants
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100% my experience at low stakes in the Houston rooms as well. Just gotta be careful of the "any two cards" guys as people can show up with the 4 7 that makes the straight no one should have in a 3 bet pot type of thing.
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Update #4
To summarize the session... I played every hand perfectly according to the situation and got unlucky. With all the bad beats I took tonight, it's honestly a miracle I was still up. To give you a general idea of the type of play and players I was up against, here are some highlights:
I got AA allin preflop against J3 and he hit two 3s on the board to win
3 hands later I have KK and have JQ call a $60 preflop raise with JQ and it holds twice after an allin on a K-high flop
I have T2o in the BB and check it through. Flop comes T25. I bet $60 (about 2x pot) and get called by K5 who hits a K on the turn, I lose about $300 that hand.
2 orbits later I have 23o in the BB, I check it through and flop K23... same guy has K3... there goes another $200.
At the end of the session I feel like my mindset is being affected by the insanity of these losses, so I decide to leave and book a small win since my mental edge is gone. Was up about $600 or so on the table at the high point.
Final note, I paid $50 for my monthly membership fee today, reflected in the $550 buyin instead of the standard $500. This will pay dividends over the next month where I'm no longer paying $10 a day to get in.
Starting Bankroll: $11,834
Location: The Hangar, Humble TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 3 Hours
Buyins: $550
Cashouts: $770
Result: $220
Ending Bankroll: $12,054
To summarize the session... I played every hand perfectly according to the situation and got unlucky. With all the bad beats I took tonight, it's honestly a miracle I was still up. To give you a general idea of the type of play and players I was up against, here are some highlights:
I got AA allin preflop against J3 and he hit two 3s on the board to win
3 hands later I have KK and have JQ call a $60 preflop raise with JQ and it holds twice after an allin on a K-high flop
I have T2o in the BB and check it through. Flop comes T25. I bet $60 (about 2x pot) and get called by K5 who hits a K on the turn, I lose about $300 that hand.
2 orbits later I have 23o in the BB, I check it through and flop K23... same guy has K3... there goes another $200.
At the end of the session I feel like my mindset is being affected by the insanity of these losses, so I decide to leave and book a small win since my mental edge is gone. Was up about $600 or so on the table at the high point.
Final note, I paid $50 for my monthly membership fee today, reflected in the $550 buyin instead of the standard $500. This will pay dividends over the next month where I'm no longer paying $10 a day to get in.
Starting Bankroll: $11,834
Location: The Hangar, Humble TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 3 Hours
Buyins: $550
Cashouts: $770
Result: $220
Ending Bankroll: $12,054
I am so sorry that The Hangar uses the same garbage chips that my local room uses.
Just wait until they get a bit more wear on them.
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I see a tersely worded PM in your future.
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Update #5
Short session ended early because of a mix of dead cards and live stomach
I played maybe 5 hands in 2.5 hours and won all of them without showdown. I think this is the first session in my career that I completed without having to show any of my hole cards.
Room's closed tomorrow for the holiday, so either I have to take the day off or see of any of the other rooms around town are open... I'm guessing no. So... expect the next update to come on Monday.
Starting Bankroll: $12,054
Location: The Hangar, Humble TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 2.5 Hours
Buyins: $500
Cashouts: $850
Result: $350
Ending Bankroll: $12,404
Week-end bonus stats:
Net profit: +$1,404
Time Played: 14.5 hours
Hourly Rate: $96.83
Short session ended early because of a mix of dead cards and live stomach
I played maybe 5 hands in 2.5 hours and won all of them without showdown. I think this is the first session in my career that I completed without having to show any of my hole cards.
Room's closed tomorrow for the holiday, so either I have to take the day off or see of any of the other rooms around town are open... I'm guessing no. So... expect the next update to come on Monday.
Starting Bankroll: $12,054
Location: The Hangar, Humble TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 2.5 Hours
Buyins: $500
Cashouts: $850
Result: $350
Ending Bankroll: $12,404
Week-end bonus stats:
Net profit: +$1,404
Time Played: 14.5 hours
Hourly Rate: $96.83
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In short, no...
If there is a hand that merits analysis it will go in its own thread. Otherwise... days like today there's nothing to analyze... I raise big preflop with a premium hand and get 4 callers... bet the flop and everyone folds... wash rinse repeat a few times and there's my night...
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People may have start to notice that you are only playing with premium card and not willing to go to showdown with you unless they hit the flop hard
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3 of a Kind
Not in Texas
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Update #6
OK, so after some Pepto my stomach was feeling better and there was plenty of night left. I called the room and they told me they had 2 tables running. I made my way back over and bought back in at the outer table. The stacks there were small, but there were no tough players/regs there... yummy
First hand at the table I get the first of my 3 orders of 2-piece McJiggities in this 1-hour session. Proving that there's no wrong way to play jacks, I open UTG to 15 (standard open for this cardroom) and +1 reraises to 30. Button cold calls (not concerned in the least about her honestly) and I 4-bet to 75. Both players call. Flop is J-x-x with two clubs. I lead for 130 and +1 immediately shoves. Button mucks and I snap-call and flip over the bad news. He has AJ and the 4 on the turn does it in. Nice welcome to the table for me.
The other two J-J hands weren't as memorable, though I did win both. It was just odd to get them three times in an hour...
Everyone at the table had <300 in their stack where I was nearly at 1k, so there wasn't too much money to get, but the getting was easy because the level of skill at that table was so low. I won a few more pots and then the table broke. The main game had too many regs on it, so I decided to book a win and call it a night as there is some Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough ice cream waiting for me after I finish this update.
All in all, it was a fun night... and the second trip gave my hourly rate a nice little boost. Next update will be Monday since as I mentioned, the card rooms are closed on the 4th...
Starting Bankroll: $12,404
Location: The Hangar, Humble TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 1 Hour
Buyins: $500
Cashouts: $1,005
Result: $505
Ending Bankroll: $12,909
OK, so after some Pepto my stomach was feeling better and there was plenty of night left. I called the room and they told me they had 2 tables running. I made my way back over and bought back in at the outer table. The stacks there were small, but there were no tough players/regs there... yummy
First hand at the table I get the first of my 3 orders of 2-piece McJiggities in this 1-hour session. Proving that there's no wrong way to play jacks, I open UTG to 15 (standard open for this cardroom) and +1 reraises to 30. Button cold calls (not concerned in the least about her honestly) and I 4-bet to 75. Both players call. Flop is J-x-x with two clubs. I lead for 130 and +1 immediately shoves. Button mucks and I snap-call and flip over the bad news. He has AJ and the 4 on the turn does it in. Nice welcome to the table for me.
The other two J-J hands weren't as memorable, though I did win both. It was just odd to get them three times in an hour...
Everyone at the table had <300 in their stack where I was nearly at 1k, so there wasn't too much money to get, but the getting was easy because the level of skill at that table was so low. I won a few more pots and then the table broke. The main game had too many regs on it, so I decided to book a win and call it a night as there is some Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough ice cream waiting for me after I finish this update.
All in all, it was a fun night... and the second trip gave my hourly rate a nice little boost. Next update will be Monday since as I mentioned, the card rooms are closed on the 4th...
Starting Bankroll: $12,404
Location: The Hangar, Humble TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 1 Hour
Buyins: $500
Cashouts: $1,005
Result: $505
Ending Bankroll: $12,909
RainmanTrail
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Unfortunately, in poker, even after a sample size of 10,000 hands, a 95% confidence interval on your win-rate is probably at least half as wide as the win rate itself (depending on the magnitude). One of the winningest online pros in history (Leatherass), who has millions of hands in his HH database and has several million in profits to his name, went through a 100k hand break-even period of poker where he ran like shit. He went back through all the big hands in those sessions one-by-one trying to find leaks in his game or to see if he had changed anything, but he played great during that stretch. But the delta between his expected win% on all-in hands and his actual realized win% on those hands was just extremely divergent. A 100,000 hand cooler is just absolutely nuts. Some semi-regular poker players might not even play that many hands in their entire lives. To think that someone could experience a life-long cooler and have it not be entirely within the realm of possibility to me is just mind-blowing.
Expected variance in poker is probably the least well-understood aspect of the game in my observation.
Did you check the shuffle machine? Maybe 3d printed.... I know a guy who knows a guy to check this sort of stuff out.Update #4
To summarize the session... I played every hand perfectly according to the situation and got unlucky. With all the bad beats I took tonight, it's honestly a miracle I was still up. To give you a general idea of the type of play and players I was up against, here are some highlights:
I got AA allin preflop against J3 and he hit two 3s on the board to win
3 hands later I have KK and have JQ call a $60 preflop raise with JQ and it holds twice after an allin on a K-high flop
I have T2o in the BB and check it through. Flop comes T25. I bet $60 (about 2x pot) and get called by K5 who hits a K on the turn, I lose about $300 that hand.
2 orbits later I have 23o in the BB, I check it through and flop K23... same guy has K3... there goes another $200.
At the end of the session I feel like my mindset is being affected by the insanity of these losses, so I decide to leave and book a small win since my mental edge is gone. Was up about $600 or so on the table at the high point.
Final note, I paid $50 for my monthly membership fee today, reflected in the $550 buyin instead of the standard $500. This will pay dividends over the next month where I'm no longer paying $10 a day to get in.
Starting Bankroll: $11,834
Location: The Hangar, Humble TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 3 Hours
Buyins: $550
Cashouts: $770
Result: $220
Ending Bankroll: $12,054
Ps:
Seriously though, appreciating your thread and following with interest!
OP
OP
Av8tion
3 of a Kind
Update #7
With The Hangar closed for the holiday, I had to drive down south for some 1-3 action at Spades Poker House. This is a much larger room with more tables and more players. Overall, the skill level of the players at my table were significantly higher than at The Hangar. I had to go back to my Vegas 2-5 / 5-10 strategy of normal poker as opposed to the ABC "I bet I win" strategy that works over in Humble.
One thing that pissed me off about this place is that they had a rotating Omaha button which forced the table to play a round of Omaha once per rotation. For me this sucks because now in addition to sitting out a bomb pot every dealer chance, now I have to sit out a hand every rotation to avoid having to play omaha. For that reason and the higher skill level of the players compared to the other place, I'm not sure I'll be going back to Spades that often.
That said, I spent a few hours and fluctuated between 400 up and 150ish down and settled on a profit of 180 minus the 20 in initiation fees I added to the buyin amount to lock in a small win with time to spare to avoid the holiday traffic on the drive back.
Starting Bankroll: $12,909
Location: Spades Poker House, Webster, TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 3.5 Hours
Buyins: $1,020
Cashouts: $1,180
Result: $160
Ending Bankroll: $13,069
With The Hangar closed for the holiday, I had to drive down south for some 1-3 action at Spades Poker House. This is a much larger room with more tables and more players. Overall, the skill level of the players at my table were significantly higher than at The Hangar. I had to go back to my Vegas 2-5 / 5-10 strategy of normal poker as opposed to the ABC "I bet I win" strategy that works over in Humble.
One thing that pissed me off about this place is that they had a rotating Omaha button which forced the table to play a round of Omaha once per rotation. For me this sucks because now in addition to sitting out a bomb pot every dealer chance, now I have to sit out a hand every rotation to avoid having to play omaha. For that reason and the higher skill level of the players compared to the other place, I'm not sure I'll be going back to Spades that often.
That said, I spent a few hours and fluctuated between 400 up and 150ish down and settled on a profit of 180 minus the 20 in initiation fees I added to the buyin amount to lock in a small win with time to spare to avoid the holiday traffic on the drive back.
Starting Bankroll: $12,909
Location: Spades Poker House, Webster, TX
Stakes: 1/3 NLHE
Time: 3.5 Hours
Buyins: $1,020
Cashouts: $1,180
Result: $160
Ending Bankroll: $13,069
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Av8tion
3 of a Kind
The rooms down here don't use autoshufflers.
Also, one odd thing I saw happen today that I forgot to mention in the update. There was an allin and a call on a board with 6xxxQ. The first player shows 6-6 for a set of sixes. The other guy sits there for a few seconds... laughs a little and shows me his hand... Q-Q.
At this point I think the guy is being an asshole and slowrolling the guy with sixes... until he throws his cards face down into the muck....
I stop myself halfway through yelling WAIT... realizing that I can't influence the action of the game and if he chooses to muck his hand I can't influence that decision. His cards hit the muck and everyone turns to me with a wide-eyed look of horror on my face... they all asked what he showed me and I told them he folded the set of queens (the best hand) and threw away about $500...
Lesson to all... always turn your cards up at showdown... you never know what you might be missing on the board...
wow. i assume he just had already checked out and missed the river entirely?
OP
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Av8tion
3 of a Kind
Allin was on the turn and it wasn't until after the Q hit on the river that the set of 6s showed... there's no reason to not see the river card... just a total mental block on his part... in the end he patted me on the shoulder and said "it's alright" probably interpreting the look on my face as guilt for not having said anything to stop him from mucking the winner...
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