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Just wanted to share a very quick video of one of my chips being milled by a CNC machine...

I commissioned a friend of mine to mill about 1,000 Solid Paulson LCV HS for a relabel project I have... The chips are in very good condition although not mint and the HS was generic and NCV...

Based on a sample chip he gave me, the results were FANTASTIC! I even start thinking maybe a new HS is possible... It's THAT smooth...

 
ChaosRock said:
Just wanted to share a very quick video of one of my chips being milled by a CNC machine...

I commissioned a friend of mine to mill about 1,000 Solid Paulson LCV HS for a relabel project I have... The chips are in very good condition although not mint and the HS was generic and NCV...

Based on a sample chip he gave me, the results were FANTASTIC! I even start thinking maybe a new HS is possible... It's THAT smooth...

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Really cool. Do you feel comfortable giving any idea of the cost of the milling? I am always tempted by new projects...
 
jbutler said:
Really cool. Do you feel comfortable giving any idea of the cost of the milling? I am always tempted by new projects...
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I thought it was really cool also man...

It's running me 25¢ per chip but no shipping back and forth as he plays my league every other Wednesday... Not necessarily cheap but for the results, I thought it was worthwhile given the price I bought the chips for...
 
bentax1978 said:
The best part of that video was getting to see Bubbs drink from the water fountain right after :)

Oh, and the milling looks pretty sweet too!
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LOL!!! Did you see that?!?!?! Funny isn't it? Really cool my city has those water fountains for dogs all over...
 
ChaosRock said:
LOL!!! Did you see that?!?!?! Funny isn't it? Really cool my city has those water fountains for dogs all over...
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Already sent it to Mrs Bentax, she's a sucker for cute dogs.

As you recall, when I showed her your customs, she said I should go to Michigan and kidnap Bubbs, but leave the chips. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: (she loved the chips too, she just meant she wanted your dog more)
 
ChaosRock said:
I thought it was really cool also man...

It's running me 25¢ per chip but no shipping back and forth as he plays my league every other Wednesday... Not necessarily cheap but for the results, I thought it was worthwhile given the price I bought the chips for...
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.25 per is not too much at all for a good milling job imo. If they can legitimately get the chips smooth enough for a hotstamp that's a beautiful thing.
 
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jbutler said:
Really cool. Do you feel comfortable giving any idea of the cost of the milling? I am always tempted by new projects...
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One other point Jack, IF, and it's a big if, the chips can be Hot Stamped again die to them being super smooth, then it's definitely worth it in my book...

* You responded right before I posted...
 
ChaosRock said:
One other point Jack, IF, and it's a big if, the chips can be Hot Stamped again die to them being super smooth, then it's definitely worth it in my book...
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Yeah I know very little about hotstamping other than how finicky those machines can be. If I were to embark on such a journey I'd definitely have a backup plan for labels and would send a stack of chips to @monkeydog for test stamping first.

He did some test stamping for me when I was deciding among hotstamp designs (we even ordered a few different dies just to see which stamped best) and I'm really glad I did. Way better to test first and correct than to go down the wrong road until you hit the end of the line.
 
jbutler said:
Yeah I know very little about hotstamping other than how finicky those machines can be. If I were to embark on such a journey I'd definitely have a backup plan for labels and would send a stack of chips to @monkeydog for test stamping first.

He did some test stamping for me when I was deciding among hotstamp designs (we even ordered a few different dies just to see which stamped best) and I'm really glad I did. Way better to test first and correct than to go down the wrong road until you hit the end of the line.
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@monkeydog has a set of Solid BCCs I sent him last year... My dies are ready and he started the stamping a couple of weeks ago... I will definitely send him a few chips once I get them so he can test them... My die are for BCC T-molds though but I'm certain he has dies that can fit Paulson Long Cane Version...

If he sees this post (and yours) it would be great if he could chime in...
 
bentax1978 said:
Already sent it to Mrs Bentax, she's a sucker for cute dogs.

As you recall, when I showed her your customs, she said I should go to Michigan and kidnap Bubbs, but leave the chips. :ROFL: :ROFLMAO: (she loved the chips too, she just meant she wanted your dog more)
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Mrs. Bentax is the COOLEST!!!! ;);););)

Now, given my avatar and chip sets, you can probably see she's huge in my life... I'll jump in front of a train for her... So Mrs. Bentax will have to run me over... Now for Bubbles, she's a bit of an attention whore... You ring the bell, she'll jump in you guys' car and won't even look back... Next thing she knows she's in Albany, LOL!!!
 
ChaosRock said:
Mrs. Bentax is the COOLEST!!!! ;);););)

Now, given my avatar and chip sets, you can probably see she's huge in my life... I'll jump in front of a train for her... So Mrs. Bentax will have to run me over... Now for Bubbles, she's a bit of an attention whore... You ring the bell, she'll jump in you guys' car and won't even look behind... Next thing she knows she's in Albany, LOL!!!
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She'd have jumped in front of a train for Jake as well. Miss that guy :unsure:


Ok, enough thread jack, sorry!

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jbutler said:
Yeah I know very little about hotstamping other than how finicky those machines can be.
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ChaosRock said:
One other point Jack, IF, and it's a big if, the chips can be Hot Stamped again die to them being super smooth, then it's definitely worth it in my book...
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Seems like I recall one of the aftermarket stampers (forget which one) that mentioned stamping milled chips presented it's own set of problems due to the area being recessed, not because of the smoothness (or lack thereof)....

Hoping monkeydog can pull it off. Not like he's busy enough already. :LOL: :laugh:

Great vids, too (love Bubbs!) -- thanks for posting those (y) :thumbsup:.
 
BGinGA said:
Seems like I recall one of the aftermarket stampers (forget which one) that mentioned stamping milled chips presented it's own set of problems due to the area being recessed, not because of the smoothness (or lack thereof)....

Hoping monkeydog can pull it off. Not like he's busy enough already. :LOL: :laugh:

Great vids, too (love Bubbs!) -- thanks for posting those (y) :thumbsup:.
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Very good point Dave... I remember that being said as well...
 
cool video, thanks for the post

you mill both sides of the chip, center obviously is reduced possibly too thin to hot stamp, maybe gear can chime in on that....

also the thing i didnt like if you milled then hotstamped it just looks like crap with the recess edge...labels perfect, hotstamp not so perfect, my opinion

i think there were some pics at CT of mill then h/s, that i didnt think were attractive, i will try to find them and post
 
BGinGA said:
Seems like I recall one of the aftermarket stampers (forget which one) that mentioned stamping milled chips presented it's own set of problems due to the area being recessed, not because of the smoothness (or lack thereof)....

Hoping monkeydog can pull it off. Not like he's busy enough already. :LOL: :laugh:

Great vids, too (love Bubbs!) -- thanks for posting those (y) :thumbsup:.
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Was just thinking Dave, some SCV HS chips have a pretty significant recess... Maybe the HS process is way different... LCV though have almost no recess in my experience, it's hard even to relabel regular inlaid LCVs...
 
luckbox said:
cool video, thanks for the post

you mill both sides of the chip, center obviously is reduced possibly too thin to hot stamp, maybe gear can chime in on that....

also the thing i didnt like if you milled then hotstamped it just looks like crap with the recess edge...labels perfect, hotstamp not so perfect, my opinion

i think there were some pics at CT of mill then h/s, that i didnt think were attractive, i will try to find them and post
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I see your point but as I just wrote above, some HS do have s reasonable recess... Fun Nites for example...

One problem I think it's bigger than the recess from a aesthetics point of view is that the part of the chips that was milled becomes really, really shiny and very, very smooth... So there's definitely a difference between the inlay area and the rest of the chip... At least using the CNC method...
 
The guys doing this for me just replied to my question:

He's taking 0.008" per side, not much at all... Well, I asked him to take as little as he could as long as the stamp was gone...
 
ChaosRock said:
Was just thinking Dave, some SCV HS chips have a pretty significant recess... Maybe the HS process is way different... LCV though have almost no recess in my experience, it's hard even to relabel regular inlaid LCVs...
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i am guessing paulson would stock pile blanks then run them thru hot stamp as home orders came in??? maybe?

labels are applied as the chips are made not as blanks...i am pretty sure of that
 
borrowed this pic from ct....here is the h/s after milling paulson PCR chips.......i would mill ugly chips only,

i think its a law in some states....they look ok but i dont like the double ring

this first one stings a bit :eek:
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luckbox said:
borrowed this pic from ct....here is the h/s after milling paulson PCR chips.......i would mill ugly chips only,

i think its a law in some states....they look ok but i dont like the double ring

this first one stings a bit :eek:

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Thanks for the pics LB!!

Yeah, the chips don't look spectacular but not too bad either... The sample I got had no double ring at all and it seems to have much less of a recess than these, although its difficult to say for sure... That's the beauty of CNC, you can program it very, very accurately...

Even in those pictures you can see how shiny the recess of the chip is... No texture like the rest, just super smooth...
 
This is very cool and a quarter per chip seems pretty fair to me. With the quality labels gear makes I bet you'd never know it wasn't an original inlay when finished. Did you warn him about lead dust?
 
Meddler2 said:
I would have no issue whatsoever playing with these chips. Stamps look great.
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i can understand that, its just a preference thing

like these TRK's that links is selling.....i would consider milling them to hot stamp as long as the milled out area wasnt too deep, again its just personal preference, if it was too deep you could always label them.....i actually prefer hot stamped chips in most cases than labels with exception to most ex-casino sets
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