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Edit: The EU is not taking an additional custom fee anymore. You still have to pay VAT. For germany it is 19%.

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Happily expecting the order from the chiproom I received today an invoice of the local customs office that I have to pay 130€ for an order worth 268€. WTF !!!

The math is (Zollwert*1,25)*1,19 or Zollwert*1,48 => 48% fee :mad:

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US and EU championing free trade... (masturbation emoticon unavailable)
It's even more irritating in Germany, a country with most healthy finances (which might be killing other EU members' finances, but that's another issue).

In Greece, with mechanically supported public finances, with the Government eager to steal as much as possible from citizens (and, unsurprisingly, vice-versa) if you import anything worth more than 1,000E, you are required to register as importer:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Which is NOT legally possible for civil servants. So, a refined-taste civil servant, with 25 years of service CANNOT import a nice painting, or chip set...:vomit:
 
Is that 25% Zoll? I thought there were no tariffs on stuff coming from the US.
 
Wow. I paid 290 something Canadian on a order from the USA in Canada that had an appraised value of 2000USD recently.

I thought it was excessive....apparently compared to Germany the customs officers in Canada use lube. Ouch!
 
There is. Since November 12th 2020. EU reacted to Trump putting 25% import tax on EU steel. For some strange reason US board games are now taxed an additional 25%. The above shown receipt Was not files correct by customs. The regular tax is missing. Anyway it is totally sick to charge almost 50% tax
 
Hmm, is one of those 25%/19% charges tax and the other one toll? I'm not familiar with German taxation, but if those chips came to Finland I'd have to pay 24% tax but never a toll, as poker chips are exempt from that. However if I imported clothes, I would have to pay toll as well (possibly after a certain limit on value). So it looks like either poker chips are not exempt from toll here, or they were imported with wrong item code?
 
19% is the tax (VAT) if I understood correctly, which comes on top of other taxes.
 
Santa123 said:
Happily expecting the order from the chiproom I received today an invoice of the local customs office that I have to pay 130€ for an order worth 268€. WTF !!!

The math is (Zollwert*1,25)*1,19 or Zollwert*1,48 => 48% fee :mad:

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This is why being a European chipper is expensive. Is the first charge import duty and then second charge sales tax (VAT)?

Have a look at this thread for 3rd party insurance - I haven't personally tried it so I'm not recommending it.
 
19% is regular sales tax. 25% is additional taxes for US import. The regular import tax of 2.7% has been forgotten by this tax officer.
 
What is the description of the goods on the actual shipping label (assuming you have the package)? Sounds like the description might have got you hit with additional import duty :(
 
Wow, so anything imported from the US has an extra 25% tax slapped on now?! :vomit:
 
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What is the description of the goods on the actual shipping label (assuming you have the package)? Sounds like the description might have got you hit with additional import duty :(
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It was tariffed as 9504.90.80 ("Tables for casino games, automatic bowling alley equipment, and other funfair, table or parlour games, incl. pintables (excl. operated by any means of payment, billiards, video game consoles and machines, playing cards and electric car racing sets having the character of competitive games)") - seems wrong, it should be 9504.90.60 ("Chess, checkers, backgammon, darts and o/table and parlor games played on boards of a special design and parts thereof; poker chips and dice")
 
BillyBluff said:
What is the description of the goods on the actual shipping label (assuming you have the package)? Sounds like the description might have got you hit with additional import duty :(
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Whatever the description (i.e. "useless crap", possibly), it's the declared/insured value which determines the wound in the European [EU] recipient's anus.:D

Being discrete on the description only helps against the chips being stolen by mailing services' crooks (paid by taxpayers).
 
Coyote said:
Whatever the description (i.e. "useless crap", possibly), it's the declared/insured value which determines the wound in the European [EU] recipient's anus.:D

Being discrete on the description only helps against the chips being stolen by mailing services' crooks (paid by taxpayers).
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A wrong or misinterpreted description can trigger tariffs that otherwise would not have been triggered. I'd suggest @Santa123 to check with them whether a mistake was made (see my previous post for details).
 
I became quite the expert in customs & shipping during my days as international chipper.

They (EU customs) use this calculation & VAT is country specific (21% in Belgium)

below 22 EUR -> no taxation
below 150 EUR ->custom charge & VAT (no import tax)
above 150 EUR -> VAT, customs charge & import tax

In the above case it should be 153EUR in Belgium...so you got off easy :)

For USPS they combine shipping cost & value package to determine the full value...but if you ship with DHL, UPS or FedEx then they only charge on the value of the package.

This because in the recent years Europe was flooded with packages from Wish, Alibaba, Bangood, ... all with free shipping & low value.
and shipping was paid or sponsored by the Chinese gouvernement.

So they could not tax them...now EU changed the rules and most packages will come with fees...even the cheap/small ones
And shopping around for 'easy' customs doesn't work...it tried almost all countries in EU...and all the same.
 
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It was tariffed as 9504.90.80 ("Tables for casino games, automatic bowling alley equipment, and other funfair, table or parlour games, incl. pintables (excl. operated by any means of payment, billiards, video game consoles and machines, playing cards and electric car racing sets having the character of competitive games)") - seems wrong, it should be 9504.90.60 ("Chess, checkers, backgammon, darts and o/table and parlor games played on boards of a special design and parts thereof; poker chips and dice")
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I will call them tomorrow. But after a quick research I found posts in boardgame forums that 25% will be taxed also on boardgames since November 2020.

Seems to me there are a bunch of things that have 25% tax.

The thing is I paid 240$ for the Chips, 80$ to USPS and probably I have to pay 150$ to german custom office. I love it.
 
superchromix said:
I have never paid more than the standard 19% VAT on poker chips in German customs. If this has changed, it's something new for sure.
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Yeah same here. "Obsolete gaming tokens" as description of the package contents seemed to do the trick so far. Maybe adding "collectibles" somewhere in there might steer them away from the board game classification...?
 

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