Marhault
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I knew you were joking just felt the need to explain my Bud Jones aversion.
I also love ceramics but dislike ceramic hybrids. I'm a weirdo.
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I also love ceramics but dislike ceramic hybrids. I'm a weirdo.
The CPC set I want to make will prob cost more than a nice THC set at market prices.
He’s not taking new clients.
You are not alone. I'm not a fan of the hybrids either.
We were cool... Once... But then you start saying crazy stuff like this...
The workload of being a single client is nearly too much for me....
There's a place here for weirdos, too!
WedgeRock
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Quoted for truth.
Darthhoodie
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DAMMMIT, I guess I will go back to Dewey, Cheatem & Howe
Bob Loblaw is pretty good, I’ve heard. I’m not sure if he is still running Bob Loblaw’s Law Blog.
tabletalker7
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Someone (@BGinGA you seem to like them so chime in here) give me the pros and cons of these hybrids before I jump onto the Post Oak Poker Club thing when it happens please
My opinion, and I’m probably not alone here, is that those 39mm hybrids handle very similarly to regular ceramic chips.
The 43mm hybrids (with the smaller recess) are the ones that impressed me. These 39mm hybrids don’t. That’s not to say there’s anything wrong with them - there isn’t. But they just don’t stand out to me as at all noteworthy. They’re good ceramic chips.
FWIW, this guy is getting screwed, Trying to release the chips in the shadow of a massive chip room sale. It wouldn’t shock me if he put them on the shelf for a few months. It’s happened before, with other sellers.
RainmanTrail
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tabletalker7
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If they handle very similar to regular ceramics them I should LOVE them!
They do, because...they are ceramics! Some people prefer to have a traditional printed inlay/sticker set into a mold recess in a ceramic chip, and thus the hybrid was born. Most ceramics are entirely flat where all graphics are dye-sub printed onto the surface, with no recess.
Some preferences in ceramic hybrids go further and recommend using a larger (43mm) chip with a smaller (25mm) recess, which allows more surface area contact between chips in a clean stack, enhancing friction and reducing slipperiness (compared to 39mm chips with similar sized recesses).
WedgeRock
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If you want chips that handle like ceramics, buy ceramics.
Darthhoodie
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In my opinion the 39mm hybrid ceramics just feel too light and unsubstantial. I am a fan of the 43mm hybrid ceramics but only with the 25mm label. Those seem to have the best feel, weight, and stack like bricks. I would pick regular ceramic chips over the 39mm hybrid ceramics, and I would just stay completely away from the 43mm hybrid ceramics with the large label. Obviously this is just my opinion, some people like the 39mm and the 43mm with large label. I own multiple sets of the 43mm w/ 25mm label.
Maybe I'm just grumpy about those Outpost $2s.
Jambine
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Are they actually lighter?
Darthhoodie
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I don't know they just feel like nothing in my hands, not sure of the actual weight. There are plenty of people who own them and love them, I expected to love them and hate the 43mm ones but it turned out the opposite for me. Funny how that works out some times, this is why samples are so important. Not just a sample of one chip but 5 or 10 to get the proper feel.
This topic started off as a lightning rod for a discussion elsewhere in the forum about the current state of the chipping hobby.
Now, I haven't been around for all that long, but the fact that a day later the discussion has already switched to the quality of certain chip types tells me that we're fine
It may be a rocky period: lots of people joining because of lockdowns, more attention for other parts of the poker hobby since card rooms are out of commission for now and the prices are a bit more volatile than in "normal" times. But in the end: we're all here because we're the nerds of the poker hobby. We obsess over bits of paint on tiny plastic/clay circles. We can fill pages and pages with debates over which type of yellow or green we prefer on our tiny bits of plastic.
We debate the best hot dog rollers and the best hot sauces to have at our home games.*
The community's fine. It's changing, but as far as I know: it's not looking too bad
*and we all agree that hot dogs are NOT sandwiches
Now, I haven't been around for all that long, but the fact that a day later the discussion has already switched to the quality of certain chip types tells me that we're fine
It may be a rocky period: lots of people joining because of lockdowns, more attention for other parts of the poker hobby since card rooms are out of commission for now and the prices are a bit more volatile than in "normal" times. But in the end: we're all here because we're the nerds of the poker hobby. We obsess over bits of paint on tiny plastic/clay circles. We can fill pages and pages with debates over which type of yellow or green we prefer on our tiny bits of plastic.
We debate the best hot dog rollers and the best hot sauces to have at our home games.*
The community's fine. It's changing, but as far as I know: it's not looking too bad
*and we all agree that hot dogs are NOT sandwiches
tabletalker7
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Are you stating that I should put a wanted ad up for a 39mm hybrid sample set?
Darthhoodie
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So looks like 10 39mm HC boardwalks weigh in at 86g so 8.6g each and 10 nile club ceramics weigh in at 100 g so 10g each.
not sure if more modern ceramic chips will weigh different but these are the only ceramics I have kicking around.
not sure if more modern ceramic chips will weigh different but these are the only ceramics I have kicking around.
Darthhoodie
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I bet a wanted add for a sample of 39mm hc will get you some quick. Unfortunately I don't let my boardwalks out of my sight. You may find that you love them, its totally a personal thing.
BirdCage
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What a bunch of mamby pamby whining. Every week there are Pauslons available in a variety of colors and denominations for $100 or less per rack available via the PCF Classifieds. Yesterday, two racks of nice $1's were available for $50 per rack. Because of this awesome forum including it's vendors, one can easily assemble/build a nice cash or tournament set for under $1 per chip - with patience and discipline. For the lazy or impatient, used Paulson set's are often available in the $1 per chip range and sometimes for less.
Can you build a mint, Cali-colored set with original shaped-inlays on the cheap? No way. But that is life and the market. Are people complaining in the car forums that life is unfair because they couldn't buy a new BMW M3 for the price of their used Chevy Cruze?!
And don't forget, PCF is the best "distance learning" site for all things chip & chip-related with more than a dollop of humor added to every thread.
Maybe it's just time for a group hug and a quiet return to your poker chip (and other) hobbies?!
Caveat emptor.
Read between the lines.
Don't buy what you can't afford.
Can you build a mint, Cali-colored set with original shaped-inlays on the cheap? No way. But that is life and the market. Are people complaining in the car forums that life is unfair because they couldn't buy a new BMW M3 for the price of their used Chevy Cruze?!
And don't forget, PCF is the best "distance learning" site for all things chip & chip-related with more than a dollop of humor added to every thread.
Maybe it's just time for a group hug and a quiet return to your poker chip (and other) hobbies?!
Caveat emptor.
Read between the lines.
Don't buy what you can't afford.
Darthhoodie
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I would like to fix my post
Not these crap nile clubs, these things don't feel good to me at all.
Not these crap nile clubs, these things don't feel good to me at all.
tabletalker7
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I guess that's sort of my point. I like chipcos just fine. I'm good with casinos that use chipcos for tournaments, because it could be a lot worse. Chipcos are sort of the lowest quality chip I'd own on my own personal snoot-o-meter. And those 39mm hybrids are just about at the same level for me. I might give the edge to chipcos if you forced me to pick one. But the point is, they're fine.
Darthhoodie
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Yes those are much nicer than Nile club for sure! Not sure who makes Nile club, they seem like the lowest quality of all the ceramics coming in at 30c each which makes sense since most of the higher quality ceramics are 60c to 99c each.
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^^ This ^^ is exactly my opinion also. Of the four current hybrid options (39mm with large or small recess, 43mm with large or small recess), only the latter -- the 43mm HB005 with small 25mm recess -- weighs at least 10g and has significantly more chip-to-chip suface contact area, both of which give them distinct feel, sound, and play characteristics. The other hybrid versions are lighter, more slippery, and I prefer standard 39mm (or 43mm) ceramics over all of those other hybrids. YMMV.
Absolutely. I think that the 39mm hybrids (both versions) are different enough from regular ceramics (even Sun-Flys) that getting samples prior to a large purchase is a wise idea.
I bought a large set of 39mm ACF hybrid tourney chips which I later sold, but still own one 39mm standard ceramic set and three 43mm hybrid ceramic sets (with another in the planning stages).
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