Why would you prefer 43mm over 39mm for all chips in play? (1 Viewer)

[Taghkanic]

1.57" = 39.88mm

 

[SuckoutKing]

43 mm are the perfect chip size. Not to big, not to small, just right! That's what she said. Lol

 

[BGinGA]

Without delving into deep research, it appears that Paulson started manufacturing 43mm clays sometime in the late 1980s (the Dunes house mold 43mm chips and Aladdin's IHC and house mold 43mm chips were all issued in 1989). By the early 1990s, 43mm chips were becoming pretty common in many new casino chip racks, typically for $1000 and $5000 denominations but occasionally as tournament chips.

I dd not research when Paulson's larger 47mm, 48mm, or 50mm clays first appeared, but I think it's safe to say that the 43mm chips appeared first.

I also did not research the timeline for ASM 44mm chips, or the for the wide variety of non-39mm jeton sizes offered by B&G. Most inexpensive plastic chips produced in China were initially 40mm, and many still remain so today.

 

[Taghkanic]

Without delving into deep research, it appears that Paulson started manufacturing 43mm clays sometime in the late 1980s (the Dunes house mold 43mm chips and Aladdin's IHC and house mold 43mm chips were all issued in 1989). By the early 1990s, 43mm chips were becoming pretty common in many new casino chip racks, typically for $1000 and $5000 denominations but occasionally as tournament chips.

I dd not research when Paulson's larger 47mm, 48mm, or 50mm clays first appeared, but I think it's safe to say that the 43mm chips appeared first.

I also did not research the timeline for ASM 44mm chips, or the for the wide variety of non-39mm jeton sizes offered by B&G. Most inexpensive plastic chips produced in China were initially 40mm, and many still remain so today.

Any thoughts on why Paulson decided to begin making these?

Their main utility in a casino context (it seems to me) is to set very high-denoms of $500+ apart from the rest… thus reducing errors throughout the casino, making it harder to lose a high-value chip, and easier to spot these both at the table, in the cage and on camera. But those are just theories.

 

[allforcharity]

Any thoughts on why Paulson decided to begin making these?

Their main utility in a casino context (it seems to me) is to set very high-denoms of $500+ apart from the rest… thus reducing errors throughout the casino, making it harder to lose a high-value chip, and easier to spot these both at the table, in the cage and on camera. But those are just theories.

Reasonable analysis. They won't fit in the same racks as the 39mm chips, so you can tell when you've got a mixed or dirty stack. Maybe gives a distinctive chip set in the high roller room, too.

 

[Benjaminotaur]

I like 43mm as the sole size because:

1.) I’ve got big hands
2.) Bigger chips means bigger, more impressive pots.

I like 43mm for the “big” denoms on any set because I like the look and feel of throwing the big boys out there. It’s only $20 for my sets, but it might as well be $1000 from the way it feels.

All things being equal, I’d have the large denoms always be 43mm or larger.

All that said, not all my players have monster mitts like I do, so I don’t force the big sizes on them for any of my sets save for the Horseshoe WSOP tributes. And those are so nice, my tiny handed friends can deal with it!!

 

[merkong]

They stack like bricks

 

[BGinGA]

Any thoughts on why Paulson decided to begin making these?

My first instinct is that they were asked by one or more of their Vegas casino customers to provide larger-size cash checks -- either for increased visibility, security, or exclusitivity (or perhaps all three). Paulson likely shopped the idea around to their customer base to determine interest before committing to the larger scale molds and required supporting equipment.

There is nothing in the historical record (to my knowledge) to indicate that something like this would have been conceived by Paulson alone during that time period as a new potential market or sales approach.

 

[slisk250]

I prefer 39s for cash. Easier to handle store easier. 43 for T chips is nice.

 

[upNdown]

My first instinct is that they were asked by one or more of their Vegas casino customers to provide larger-size cash checks -- either for increased visibility, security, or exclusitivity (or perhaps all three). Paulson likely shopped the idea around to their customer base to determine interest before committing to the larger scale molds and required supporting equipment.

There is nothing in the historical record (to my knowledge) to indicate that something like this would have been conceived by Paulson alone during that time period as a new potential market or sales approach.

I know with the dunes, the 43s were baccarat chips. If those were actually the first, that seems significant. Dunes wanted different chips on their baccarat tables. I have no idea why; I don’t know anything about casino operations.

 

[Tronicity]

This thread has helped a bunch. I was up in the air for a while, play with 39mm at most of the home games around here. Waiting on my samples of the 43mm Royals but I think thats what Im going to go with once I get to test them out for a bit. I love the color/way them look and I think 43mm are going to feel nicer based off a lot of the comments here

 

[BGinGA]

Just watched an episode of Super High Stakes Poker at The Lodge and it was apparent they all had 43mm chips. I gotta be honest they looked delicious to shuffle and stack. I've never played with all 43mm chips only higher denoms. What are your experiences playing with 43mm chips in your home sets vs 39mm? Pros & Cons.

Just realized I never answered the OP's question. Having owned and played with many different set configurations:

My overwhelming personal preference is to play tournaments with a set containing chips consisting of a uniform single size. 39mm vs 43mm really doesn't matter, so long as they are all the same size (maybe a slight bias to 43mm, but not overly so). However, I dislike all-36mm sets (too small), and I dislike all-47mm, all-48mm and all-50mm sets (too big).

And while tournament sets containing a few highest-denomination plaques are acceptable to me, I'm much less receptive if those few high-denoms are oversize chips. The balance of sets containing multiple chip sizes just seems off. However, having oversize specialty chips (Bounty, Re-Buy, etc.) is perfectly fine with me, perhaps even preferred, as it visually sets apart the non-value chips from the chips in play.

For cash sets, mixed sizes are less of a concern to me (as a player). I suspect it's because the bigger chips/denoms in cash games are mostly value-holders, and are typically set aside and not used for most actual play.

 

[Tronicity]

Just realized I never answered the OP's question. Having owned and played with many different set configurations:

My overwhelming personal preference is to play tournaments with a set containing chips consisting of a uniform single size. 39mm vs 43mm really doesn't matter, so long as they are all the same size (maybe a slight bias to 43mm, but not overly so). However, I dislike all-36mm sets (too small), and I dislike all-47mm, all-48mm and all-50mm sets (too big).

And while tournament sets containing a few highest-denomination plaques are acceptable to me, I'm much less receptive if those few high-denoms are oversize chips. The balance of sets containing multiple chip sizes just seems off. However, having oversize specialty chips (Bounty, Re-Buy, etc.) is perfectly fine with me, perhaps even preferred, as it visually sets apart the non-value chips from the chips in play.

For cash sets, mixed sizes are less of a concern to me (as a player). I suspect it's because the bigger chips/denoms in cash games are mostly value-holders, and are typically set aside and not used for most actual play.

Is it common for cash games to be 2 different sizes?

 

[Annorax]

I just don't get it.

My sets get dual use, table games on-stream and poker. For poker, I'd prefer 39mm for the workhorse chips and 43mm/50mm for buyin-sized chips used for rebuys (1/2 game, oversized 100 would be great IMO). For table games, chips above the max bet being oversized works as well.

 

[bzambo]

I think 43mm is the best size. I think it's more fun to rake pots full of big chips and they generally sound better. Personally I think they might be a bit eaiser to shuffle than 39mm. I do think 48mm and 50mm is too big. 43mm is the sweet spot in my mind.

But with ceramics, china clay, etc?

The Monaco’s from Apache are beautiful in my opinion but I’m still new to the ceramics so I’m not comfortable dropping all that $$ on them just yet.

I’m getting custom no molds from Justin so that may have to be my fix. Haha

 

[GeeOhVee]

Working on designing a California-ish colored cash set that can be used for nickel games and .25/.50, and I'm thinking 39mm for everything through $5, and 43mm $20 chips. We buy in with $20, and cash plays, but I think it would look cooler with a bright colored oversize chip replacing bills, and eliminates dirty stacks for top denomination.

 

[MC_CPA]

The cool yellow Tiger chip came in 43mm only so thats why I now have 43mm in my set. We'll see how my playgroup likes it in the summer before I buy more.

 

[upNdown]

But with ceramics, china clay, etc?

The Monaco’s from Apache are beautiful in my opinion but I’m still new to the ceramics so I’m not comfortable dropping all that $$ on them just yet.

I’m getting custom no molds from Justin so that may have to be my fix. Haha

I've handled some 43mm greek key tina ceramic hybrids and they feel and sound fantastic.
I've handled 43mm tina no molds, and they're not bad.
I've handled those 43mm china clays from apache. They feel and sound dead to me, but that's because they're china clays, not because of their size. But yeah, I haven't touched a 39mm china clay in a while, but I'm comfortable saying I'd prefer the 43mms.
I like 43mm, but this is a pretty subjective issue.

 

[bzambo]

I've handled some 43mm greek key tina ceramic hybrids and they feel and sound fantastic.
I've handled 43mm tina no molds, and they're not bad.
I've handled those 43mm china clays from apache. They feel and sound dead to me, but that's because they're china clays, not because of their size. But yeah, I haven't touched a 39mm china clay in a while, but I'm comfortable saying I'd prefer the 43mms.
I like 43mm, but this is a pretty subjective issue.

I have a set of majestic China clay 39mm and Monaco ceramic 43mm. I think I prefer the 39mm but my players prefer the 43mm.

So we do tourney with 39 and cash with 43. Best of both worlds. Haha

 

[BearMetal]

I love 43mm chips, especially if artwork is the focus. Think DDLM or even some of the Tina tributes like Big Top. Also, it's just cool to play with slightly larger chips sometimes.

Originally, I thought that having both 39 mm and 43 mm chips on the table would piss me off. But I've played with a few sets with higher denominations being larger, and it was actually kind of fun!

 

[SwissChip]

I fell in love with the AS $100 IHC and had to include a bigger size chip in my relabel set!

I can‘t afford a full IHC set - so i ordered 43mm semi customs on the web mold.
So many blank options!

I think it‘s fun to play bigger sized chips from time to time. Not a big fan of ceramics, but the hybrids are pretty cool!