Interesting. Any pics? I generally prefer clay look chips with mold designs over ceramics. but I'd take a look. What about them was different that you liked?
Which Claysmith chips you prefer? (2 Viewers)
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Which base chip did you use? I'm trying to sort through which ones will, and which won't accept a 1 inch label. I know my Rock & Roll samples will. Milanos look like they are just TAD too small. Like ever so close, but no go. I think they are 25mm. In the pics online, the Bluffs look like they might also be smaller than R&R. So I may be stuck with the triangle and stick chips. Not quite as attractive to me as the 12 stripe Bluffs, but colors are pretty close.
RudysNYC
Flush
These are all the chips in my set, excluding the $100 BR Pro plaques I have. Also, inb4 "wHy yOu UsE a 50¢ FrAc BrO" yea I know I f'd up lol
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
Nothing wrong with 50c fracs. You just only go down to 50c-50c instead of 25c-25c.
Where you screwed up is you should have switched the white to 50c, and doing blue dollars. #TeamBlueDollar
JustinInMN
4 of a Kind
Awesome, and those peach quarters are perfect.
Oh definitely. I will round up to make sure I have each design in multiples of 63. What I meant is you get a much better price per sheet if you order 100 sheets (6300 labels) than if you order 5 sheets. My order will have about 24-30 different designs, but in total will be over 100 sheets. 5 sheets (about the most I would have for any one design) is $6.79 per sheet or over 10 cents per label. But 100 sheets is only $1.22 per page. Less than 2 cents per label. So BIG difference.
OK - SWEET! This is what I needed to hear! (see) Finally some good news. 1 inch label fits on the 12 stripe chip!!! Thank you!!!
@JustinInMN Never mind. I understand now what you are saying. You had every denomination on each page. Gotcha. I don't think that will work for me since I have so many different designs. I'll just have to ask and see what they say.
RudysNYC
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It will. You use Maestro, their in-house program. I set it up proportionally and ordered a couple extra sheets JIC--4 designs per sheet. You'd need 64 designs for it to not work lol
The reason it won't work is I've got over 100 total pages. Some chips I need 200/400/600 of. (those will work) But others I need 50, 150, 240, 320, etc. Not divisible by 100. I'll crunch the numbers, but off the top of my head, it's not going to work unless I want 50-60 extras for many of the designs, and zero extras for others. Which could push me up to having to buy 20 or more additional pages. Also not excited at the prospect of shuffling through over 100 pages every time for each of 30 different chips. Much rather have all 63 on a page for one chip. Label one denomination and throw the empty pages away.
I'm going to ask if they can do it my way and I will let you know what they say.
BaseTen
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Hi there, I really liked what you did here. I was thinking about doing this myself... Did you have to remove the previous labels and how so?
I don't have the Monaco Casino chips, but in my experience most cheap Chinese sluggos just have adhesive keeping their labels on. Not like pressed in inlays on real clay chips. For the Claysmith chips that I have, I just slide my fingernail underneath an edge of the label, and it pulls right off. Nice and clean and ready for a new label.
Does anyone know where to get really cheap labels, like 1-2c each? This thread has got me thinking about making an el cheapo Bluffs travel set, but the brown 25c and red chips $5 are so so. The higher denoms colors are great. I’d rather use those. Any ideas where to source cheap labels?
I don’t like the car analogy. You are going to replace a car you drive because of necessity and wear. Unless you are operating on a casino level, chips are for life. So do you want to drive a Ferrari forever or a Toyota forever?
We already discussed this above. Onlinelabels.com. If you buy enough of them they are about 2-3 cents each. PRINTED! You supply the artwork. I'm in the process of doing this now.
Most of us will never have that option. (owning a Ferrari) There's absolutely nothing wrong with driving a Toyota forever. And BTW Toyota makes Lexus. The only problem with the analogy is that sluggos aren't Toyotas. They're more like a base model Ford Fiesta.
I thought that was in another thread haha. Too much information flowing around.
please report back on this with granular detail. I’m very interested to hear the quality of the print and the label. Thank you.
I am all about granularity! Drives my wife insane!
I think I’ve been reading this thread at 3 am after too much whiskey. I missed half of what’s going on haha.
1) what chip did you settle on?
2) what size label could you get (looks like only in inches)
3) how many did you need to order to get that price and what format
4) is this is custom design or could we group buy this and get a better label price!?
thanks.
yeah man these are the 12 stripe bluffs. Perfect. What size label went into them? In the menu I can only choose label size by inches.
- For sure. My first choice of chips is the Monaco Casino, However it seems these take a 7/8ths label. I''m not sure if OL (onlinelabels.com) sells that size, but I don't want to go any smaller as some of my designs are pretty busy. So I'm leaning towards the Claysmith 12 stripe. (Bluffs, etc.)
- Yes, I'm going with the 1 inch. Haven't settled yet on the waterproof, or the glossy, which I'm told is also waterproof. Planning to email OL to ask a bunch of questions. Hopefully within the next day or so.
- I'm planning to label a 800-1000 cash set of mine (PGI 8V chips) plus 4 550 chip sets for family members on the 12 stripe chips. So 3000-3200+ chips. 63 labels per page, so at least 100 pages of labels. Another question for OL is does every page have to be identical to get the volume discount, or can I have 2-6 pages of 30+ different designs? @RudysNYC arranged his designs so every page was the same and contained each unique design in the proper amounts to end up with enough for each denomination. I can see doing that for 1-2 sets, but will be a major PITA for my situation with over 30 designs.
- Each of my 5 sets I'm making are custom designs. A couple of them might be of interest to others, but not until I'm done and have these in the recipient family member's hands.
RudysNYC
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1" brother, they were a great very cheap option at onlinelabels.com
awesome thanks! Sorry if I Missed it, but what’s the pricing on the glossy and the waterproof vs the 3c standard labels? And what’s the min order to get the 3c?
I’ll probably put together a set of 12 stripes myself! This thread has inspired me. Maybe 600 cash chips and 20 person tourney set (600 chips?). Would be great to take to peoples homes. My Royals will never leave my basement. I love those chips too damn much lol.
TX what’s you all in price per chip at this point (after tax, shipping etc).
Those cards mold ceramics I think come in at 35c all in. They are pretty awesome.
I just wondering, you may be at 21c a chip by now, and for the extra $140 (a lot I know), you’ll probably get a better quality product, and plus you’ll save probably hundred hours in labeling.
Just brace yourself for labeling. It’s going to take you months in front of the TV haha.
Keep us posted. I’m on a mission now to find a best value chip to travel with.
I haven't computed that precisely yet. Still looking for the best price on the chips, but that sounds pretty close. The cheapest I've found is blank unlabeled 12 stripes for 14.6 cents each at pokerchipmania.com If I had a vendor account, I could buy direct from Brybelly, but not sure what that cost would be. Anybody here know???
Yeah, I'd love to do these on Cards mold, and I am considering that, but I want them by Christmas, so probably going to move forward with the 12 stripes. Also, if I use online labels, I can design acceptable labels within their software. If I go with Cards mold, I'll have to pay a designer to do them in AI, so that's an additional cost. And I'm already doing 1000 labels for my 8V chips, so adding this extra 2200 just helps get my labeling cost even lower per chip.
Good luck man. Keep us posted!
RudysNYC
Flush
Dunno about TX’s but when all was said and done I paid $120 for 600 blanks and $70 for the requisite amount of labels. About 32¢ a pop
OK, I have an update on this issue. My plan to use Onlinelabels.com has been scratched. I have had several communications with a representative which was eventually bumped up to the print manager, and bottom line, they could not promise me that even with in-house printing that they could get my image reasonably centered on a one inch round label. When self printing, I was getting results like this:
The far left is reasonably well centered, getting progressively worse as we move to the right. I said that I needed over 50% to be about as good as the two on the left, and most of the rest no worse than the 3rd example. I said that I would accept 5-10% as bad as the 3 on the right. They were unwilling to promise that they could do that, so I told them that I would be looking for other options.
I also decided to take a closer look at the blank label sheets themselves and I believe I discovered what the real problem is. The location on the sheet where the labels themselves are cut is not consistent. The labels can be off centered on the page by as much as a full millimeter. With my image filling up most of the label, and with print around the entire outside, that along with inconsistent printing, is not going to cut it for me.
So, my only other option while still attempting to get in well below the cost of the high quality labels from our PCF vendors is to go back to trying to find something from Avery. I've used Avery labels for years, and never had this problem of the image not printing consistently in the same place on the label. Originally I wasn't sure they made a one inch round waterproof label. Also the labels from them that I have used in the past (called Weatherproof white film) are EXTREMELY sticky. They are nearly impossible to remove, so I am hesitant to use them on a poker chip. But when I searched their site this week, I found THIS.
If you open the "Material" drop down, you'll see a product call Surface Safe White Film for Signs. In quantity these are about double the cost of the super sticky ones, but I think that will be money well spent. Even when just applying, I may initially stick them down in the wrong spot and need to lift up and re-apply.
I'm going to order 26 sheets of this (just enough to get free shipping) at about $2 per sheet of 48 labels. I'll report back here after I've tried them out. If they work, I will get 100+ more sheets at $1.35 per sheet to finish my job. Net price (not including laser toner) will be about 6 cents per chip.
The far left is reasonably well centered, getting progressively worse as we move to the right. I said that I needed over 50% to be about as good as the two on the left, and most of the rest no worse than the 3rd example. I said that I would accept 5-10% as bad as the 3 on the right. They were unwilling to promise that they could do that, so I told them that I would be looking for other options.
I also decided to take a closer look at the blank label sheets themselves and I believe I discovered what the real problem is. The location on the sheet where the labels themselves are cut is not consistent. The labels can be off centered on the page by as much as a full millimeter. With my image filling up most of the label, and with print around the entire outside, that along with inconsistent printing, is not going to cut it for me.
So, my only other option while still attempting to get in well below the cost of the high quality labels from our PCF vendors is to go back to trying to find something from Avery. I've used Avery labels for years, and never had this problem of the image not printing consistently in the same place on the label. Originally I wasn't sure they made a one inch round waterproof label. Also the labels from them that I have used in the past (called Weatherproof white film) are EXTREMELY sticky. They are nearly impossible to remove, so I am hesitant to use them on a poker chip. But when I searched their site this week, I found THIS.
If you open the "Material" drop down, you'll see a product call Surface Safe White Film for Signs. In quantity these are about double the cost of the super sticky ones, but I think that will be money well spent. Even when just applying, I may initially stick them down in the wrong spot and need to lift up and re-apply.
I'm going to order 26 sheets of this (just enough to get free shipping) at about $2 per sheet of 48 labels. I'll report back here after I've tried them out. If they work, I will get 100+ more sheets at $1.35 per sheet to finish my job. Net price (not including laser toner) will be about 6 cents per chip.
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