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Three handed 5-10-25 (mando straddle) at 4 AM. The three players are widely regarded as the biggest gamblers to play NLHE in this casino.

SB is "4 seat: known as a huge degen gambler and action player playing 3k. I have maybe 10 hrs with him in smaller games and he always takes strange lines and tries trapping me in turn/river spots." from my other thread. He is playing about 1500 now.

BB is me, I cover both

BTN is a complete degen, but a very good player. Reads spots very well, but he is starting to grumble about how he doesnt ever know where he is in a hand vs me. He is raising and 3-betting very very wide. He's playing 3ksih.

This is our first hand of 3 handed, we were a full table with a list 45 minutes earlier.

SB limps.

I limp.

BTN makes it 90.

SB calls.

I make it 435.

BTN folds.

SB tanks, then eventually stands up and says something along the lines of "time to go home, I'm all in"

What does my hand look like here? What does the SB's hand look like here? How light should I be stacking off here. Quick math says I'd be calling roughly 1100 to win about 2k in the pot.

And go....
 

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Limp, call, jam doesn't smell like a strong hand to me, but I hate the time to go home speech normally. That said, action is dying down and you're 3 handed. I'd stack off with any pair, AK-AJ, and maybe even hands like KQ or QJ (non-suited big connectors).
 

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He probably has a medium ace or a small to mid pocket pair. If he was real strong, he would have limp raised at his first opportunity I would imagine. Completely agree with Berg here. Two to one, if you have live cards you have the right odds. If you have A8or better or any pair I'm calling. Also calling with any two Broadway cards, and any suited connectors.
 

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Limp, call, jam doesn't smell like a strong hand to me, but I hate the time to go home speech normally. That said, action is dying down and you're 3 handed. I'd stack off with any pair, AK-AJ, and maybe even hands like KQ or QJ (non-suited big connectors).

i agree with this apart form getting it in with any pair. in my experience limp/call/raise is a very mid-pair-heavy range which makes some sense as there is a large contingent within the "huge degen gambler" player class which will just limp pairs below 9s (they all have their own thresholds for opening obv, but it's usually 8s or 9s imo).

i'd call off with 99+, TJ+.
 

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OP's hand looks like a big pair or two high cards. SB could have a big hand if he expected OP to 3bet, but I guess it's more likely he has a small/medium pair (maybe up to JJ) or some kind of medium/high suited/connected hand. Getting such good odds, I'd call very wide... Shove the chips in unless you were making a funny play with something like 72o or 23s. :rolleyes:
 
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BTN raises small then you raise big after limping. I think it's easy for SB to read this as a squeeze. Your range seems really, really wide to me - any ace, most suited or connected, ATB. SB open limps ,then limps again, then ships; seems like he must have something to do that. I'd range him mostly medium pairs, suited ace-rag, non-junk suited connectors. butler's calling off range looks good to me. I'd probably add 88 to it.
 

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SB: 22-88 (maybe 99 tops,) A2s-A7s, A8-AQ, KQ, possibly a random suited connector is about where I'd put him.
You: just about any 2 at this point (including premium hands) - weighted towards better hands obv but I wouldn't say 93s is out of your range. ;)

I'd call with 66+, AT+, KQ.
 

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That's unfortunate. I think you have to get it in there with tens three-handed unless he accidentally drops his cards face up on the felt.
 

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cooler imo. no way not getting in pre short handed and with history.
 

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It worked out in the end... I used a similar limp/backraise line against him with aces for a few hundo then I got most of his stack raising the bb with 63 and turning 2 pair on a wet board.
 
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