Cash Game Thoughts on my cash set breakdown (1 Viewer)

jamesd57

jamesd57

High Hand
Joined
Nov 15, 2019
Messages
95
Reaction score
152
Location
USA
So I’m placing an order through alibaba for a cash set of custom ceramics (I’ve gotten samples and am fine with the chips, yes I’d prefer to buy here, but I’m a broke college student, what am I gonna do?)
Anyways
The game I run is normally 10-16 players, two tables, most buy in for 10-15 on a normally night, with about 8 rebuys averaging.
We generally play .10/.25, but I’d like the set to be able to play anything from .05 antes for dealers choice games, to .25/.50 for bigger nights, and maybe even .50/1

the breakdown I think is pretty well thought out, but again, want all your thougts
200 x 0.05 = $10

250 x .25 = $62.5

200 x 1.00 = $200

100 x 5.00 = $500

50 x 20.00 = $ 1,000

Total bankroll: 1,772.5, 722.5 effective
(I say effective bc I doubt the 20s will ever see play on a standard night)

I could also bump the chipset up to 1,000 chips, for 50 dollars more, but if I’m honest I’m not sure I see the point in the extra 200 chips.

thoughts, comments, advice appreciated
 
If your game does grow, you’ll likely need more fives, and possibly more ones.

And considering the number of rebuys, your game plays really big for a 5¢/10¢ game, which means nickels are really only needed for blinds and occasional limping. Back the nickels off to 150 or fewer, maybe the quarters too, and put that into 1’s and 5’s, which will be your workhorse chips most of the time.
 
After playing .25/.25 for a while I really don’t why people play .10/.25. The 5c chips are only ever used for small blinds (and I hate antes) so it’s grossly inefficient to have them. I have two sets with 200x 5c chips in then and they’ve never seen the felt - a complete waste of money!

So I’d do:
25c x 200
$1 x 400
$5 x 180
$20 x 20

Now if you play 5c/10c different story, spend the extra $50
5c x 200
25c x 200
$1 x 400
$5 x 180
$20 x 20
 
that’s the though thing I guess, my game is odd.
Firstly, there’s a pretty big range of players, from good players who know proper bet sizing, to those who are just straight fish.
Secondly, there’s for some reason, a decent push against .25/.25 in favor of .10/.25, and it honestly doesn’t bother me much, and I’d like to keep nickels for other games /.05/.10, which I wanna get going on a dealers choice style night.
The workhorse chip really is the .25, and sometimes the nickel / dollar chips.
I think it’s worthwhile to note there never ends up being much more than 200-250 on the table, unless we do a higher stakes night.
I understand more .25 and 1s, but I’m not sure where it would come from with 800 chips, so maybe I’d have to go to 1,000, adding 100 to the ones and .25s, and subtracting 50 from the .05s and adding that to the 5s.
Arghh. So I guess I gotta think about this more. @Darson i like the 1,000 breakdown you gave, but I’m just not sure I need that many 1 chips, that’s almost half the set, and the game just doesn’t play that big.
 
Hey James! I'm looking into a custom set at the moment as well and I'm in the same boat as you. Do you mind sharing your experiences with alibaba with me (vendor/ pricing/ artwork/ etc)?
 
I'm putting together a cash set as well and interested in a good consensus. Here what I had planned using $ chips at 1% of face value. 1000 chips
25c X 200
$1 X 400
$5 X 200
$10 X 150
$50 X 50
 
I am going to buck the trend a bit here. I get why you are doing 200 nickels and honestly for two table games, you actually probably want more quarters than you have planned as that really is the workhorse chip at 0.05-0.10. I don't think you can stretch this set to .50-1 for two tables for just 1000 chips. I think to reasonably cover .05-.10 to .25-.50 for two tables you need at least this...

200 * 0.05
400 * 0.25
300 * 1
80*5
20*20

And honestly this really isn't enough fives for 0.50-1
 
Darson said:
After playing .25/.25 for a while I really don’t why people play .10/.25. The 5c chips are only ever used for small blinds (and I hate antes) so it’s grossly inefficient to have them. I have two sets with 200x 5c chips in then and they’ve never seen the felt - a complete waste of money!

So I’d do:
25c x 200
$1 x 400
$5 x 180
$20 x 20

Now if you play 5c/10c different story, spend the extra $50
5c x 200
25c x 200
$1 x 400
$5 x 180
$20 x 20
Click to expand...
Send your neglected nickels this way.

We love nickels
8V 5 cents 01.JPG
HPC 5¢ SLV Cream UP 01.JPG
 
Thoughts on these two breakdowns, one for 800, one for 1,000
I hate you all, because you're steering me towards the 1,000
... would fit nicely in a birdcage too...
Damn you all

On another note, I think realistically, this would only ever be used to play up to .25/.50, which is why I'm more inclined to go with @JustinInMN's breakdown, because I feel it makes more sense for my game.

But any final thoughts, I'm actually liking the 1,000 breakdown, seems pretty workable where it needs to be.

Screen Shot 2020-01-11 at 23.14.30.png
Screen Shot 2020-01-11 at 23.14.14.png
 
600 chips is plenty for most single-table low-stakes games, as is 1000 chips for most two-table games.

600 chips, single-table:
100 x 5c
200 x 25c
200 x $1
80 x $5
20 x $20
$1055 bank

1000 chips, two-table:
200 x 5c
320 x 25c
320 x $1
140 x $5
20 x $20
$1510 bank

But honestly, 10c/25c doesn't play significantly different than either 25c/25c or 0/25c, (with no small blind), and the cost of those 100 or 200 nickel chips can be better utilized elsewhere (more quarters, $1s and/or $5s). And small-stakes antes for dealer choice games is easily accommodated by implementing a dealer ante, where one player antes for the entire table using 25c chips or $1 chips (a 5c individual ante becomes a 50c button ante, or a 10c individual ante becomes a $1 button ante). It actually works much better and faster (not only posting the antes, but also when subsequently moving, stacking, and counting chips). Nickels are really only needed if playing 5c/10c stakes.
 
slisk250 said:
Having more than 100 nickels in a one table game is overkill. I'd get one rack of nickels and use the other 100 chips for something else.
Click to expand...
Agree with this. 100 of the 5c chips is all you need. They’ll just be used for blinds and the odd limp.
200 x 25c
200 x $1
60 x $5
40 x $20

600 chips and you can get a 600 chip bird cage so you’re sorted.
 
slisk250 said:
Having more than 100 nickels in a one table game is overkill. I'd get one rack of nickels and use the other 100 chips for something else.
Click to expand...

The original post indicates he's accommodating two tables, so that's why I suggesting sticking with two racks.

Now that said @BGinGA 's suggestion start at 0.25 anyway and do consolidated button ante in stud may be a good work around to save producing the nickels, and then really only 2 racks of quarters becomes necessary. (One per table ) But then 0.25-0.25 is the minimum game, no downward flexibility to 0.05-0.10 (or 0.05-0.05 for that matter.)

Then you could do...
200 * 0.25
400 * 1
300 * 5
100 * 20 or 25.

This at least becomes credible up to 1-1.
 
Maybe 400 quarters and 200 nickels is an oversuggestion if 0.05-0.10 NL isn't a consideration and the nickels to buy are strictly ante and small blind chip, maybe 100*0.05 and 200*0.25 support everything okay.

Then maybe 100*0.05, 200*0.25, 400 * 1, 200 * 5, 100 * 20 or 25.

1455 bank plus either 2000 or 2500.

This may be a radical suggestion if 0.25-0.25 instead of 0.10-0.25 is being resisted by your group, but I did a dime-half-dollar breakdown (see Free River Club 2020 edition in my signature), Then instead you could do 200*0.10, 100*0.50 and make your main game 0.10-0.20 (or 0.10-0.30), and still accommodate 0.50-0.50 as well.

This is why you ask this question by the way, I spent a year thinking about the breakdown for my customs before arriving at what I think was the right answer.
 
Bumping the 20s for now, what about a set that’s
200 nickels
400 quarters
400 ones
200 fives
I feel like it’s a simple, and honestly probably pretty effective breakdown
 
jamesd57 said:
Bumping the 20s for now, what about a set that’s
200 nickels
400 quarters
400 ones
200 fives
I feel like it’s a simple, and honestly probably pretty effective breakdown
Click to expand...
Sounds good. Gives you $1500 in bank, which should be enough for up to two tables of .25/.25. I still think you don't need more than 10 nickels per player, but it will certainly work.
 
jamesd57 said:
Bumping the 20s for now, what about a set that’s
200 nickels
400 quarters
400 ones
200 fives
I feel like it’s a simple, and honestly probably pretty effective breakdown
Click to expand...
The biggest concern I would have is would you be able to add on to the set in future if you start playing higher stakes like a .25/.50 game.
Personally I would just get 1,000 chips

100 nickels
300 quarters
300 ones
200 fives
80 twenties
20 hundreds

I get that you won’t be using the twenties or hundreds anytime soon but this way you’ve future proofed your set.
Ultimately it’s up to you and you’ll probably learn the same way most of us did, by buying the wrong breakdowns, selling your chips and starting over again :ROFL: :ROFLMAO:
 
HarleyTown said:
Do any of you raise the blinds at any point in your cash games or do you play the .25/.25 .25/.50 set up all night?
Click to expand...

Frankly most of our nights are .10/.25, sometimes we have a big night where we play .25/.50, and I'm hoping to implement a bigger, knockout night which would move, over the course of the night, from either .05 or .10 ante dealers choice to .25/.50 knockout
 
So I think bumping twenties is fine. You can have 20 bills play on the table in an emergency, but 1500 should cover your stakes.
 
Darson said:
200 5c
300 25c
400 $1
280 $5
20 $20
Click to expand...
I agree bumping the quarters from 400 to 300 so you get another 100 split between adding to the $5s and 20 $20 would be good. I have 120 quarters for 1 table of .25/.25, 300 should be plenty for 2.

I’m enjoying learning reading everyone’s opinion, I’m most likely doing a custom ceramic too lol.
 
I got

100 * 0,05
100 * 0,25
100 * $1
100 * $5
20 * $25

for my .05/.10 game with 6-8 players.

But never used more than 20 * $5 of the higher Chips.

As you buy customs i think id take

100 * 0.05
200 * 0.25
300 * $1
300 * $5
100 * $20/25 (or 80 + 20 100 if you like to have some $100 for the swag)

You could up the nickels to 150, if you predict the .05/.10 game is limb heavy but more than 150 is for even 16 players just too much IMO, as those are always only blind Chips.
For your 0.1/.25 game 6*0.05 for Just the sb is still enough if you go with 100.
 
So @SeanGecko is actually the best, I’m buying a whole bunch of the 8v China clays from him, and he’s being awesome.
The breakdown I’ve decided to go for, and now have to get labels for, is
200 nickels
400 quarters
400 dollars
200 5s
And then 200 additional chips, which will probably be made into either 20s or ncv
Thanks so much to everyone, and to @SeanGecko
 

Create an account or login to comment

You must be a member in order to leave a comment

Create account

Create an account and join our community. It's easy!

Register

Log in

Already have an account? Log in here.

Similar threads

mconn116
Cash Game Thoughts on raising stakes?
2
Replies
33
Views
913
Bacon Dad
Bacon Dad
M
Cash Game What do you think of this chip breakdown for 25c/50c up to deep stacked 1/3?
2
Replies
34
Views
1K
rjbf65
rjbf65
S
Cash Game 500pc Chip Breakdown for 25c/50c through $1/$2
Replies
13
Views
803
jshul
J
Z
Cash Game Why so many $5s?
3 4 5
Replies
132
Views
6K
princeink
princeink
M
  • Locked
SOLD Kodiak cash set
Replies
1
Views
524
suited67
suited67
Back
Top Bottom