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Things That Are Bullsh*t (48 Viewers)

Tonysquander said:
The whole kids in the dark argument is not compelling IMO. The time change actually puts them in the dark on one end or the other twice a year. Also, the goal of this antiquated, twice yearly time shift bullshit was to save energy (which it does not do by the way), not provide some nebulous protection to bus riding kids, if that is even true at all. While it provides more light in the evening, the "spring forward" change results in darker mornings, forcing many children to wait for buses in low-light conditions, increasing risks of vehicle pedestrian accidents.

Regardless, if we want to talk about safety, does the minimal amount of perceived protection, if any, provided to the bus riding kids override the quantifiable 24% increase in heart attacks on the Monday after the spring transition? Or the higher rates of strokes, suicide, depression, and anxiety? Not to mention the already noted and documented 6% increase in fatal accidents during the week after the change. Anecdotally, just listening to the radio this morning, heard many more accidents being reported than normal by the traffic folks.

So, sorry kids, but buy a flashlight and reflective vest because DST is complete bullshit and needs to be stopped. I don't care which time they want to select or whether they just want to chop it at 30 minutes...but it has to go!
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Yeah man, the numbers are fascinating. So little we know about rhythms and brains and timing!

+1 to getting rid of the time change.
 
Tonysquander said:
I don't care which time they want to select
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This. I would be happier if BC had chosen to stay on standard time year-round, but I'll take either one if it means we don't have to change back and forth anymore.


permanent Standard Time > permanent Daylight Time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing twice a year.
 
upNdown said:
I’ll tell you this - it matters a lot less to me, now that our clocks fix themselves.
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upNdown said:
I’ll tell you this - it matters a lot less to me, now that our clocks fix themselves.
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If folks cared so much about children and their health, they'd clamor for later starting school times in general (especially for post elementary kids) and a ridiculous increase in legislation around cars and driving.

The empirical data, studies, etc. for those topics exceed the nonsense here about kids by a multiple.
 
BarrieJ3 said:
If folks cared so much about children and their health, they'd clamor for later starting school times in general (especially for post elementary kids) and a ridiculous increase in legislation around cars and driving.

The empirical data, studies, etc. for those topics exceed the nonsense here about kids by a multiple.
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The whole thing is ass backwards around me. Elementary starts latest and high school earliest. Doesn't make sense
 
JMC9389 said:
The whole thing is ass backwards around me. Elementary starts latest and high school earliest. Doesn't make sense
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Here it's high school, then elementary, then middle school (6-8). Thinking is older kids get out in time for extracurriculars (sports, band) or to watch younger siblings.
Most school districts are funding on buses only to the point of each of its buses having to do a route for all 3 levels. If there were more buses, all schools could start and end at the same time.
This has taken a trip from moving the daylight to when we most need it ....
 
Jaxen said:
If there were more buses, all schools could start and end at the same time.
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But you’d need three times as many driver, willing to work 1/3 of the hours. I don’t think that will work.
But I’m with you (and @BarrieJ3 I think) with the high school thing - those young people are perpetually sleep deprived and it’s a problem. So they drink all those drinks that RFK is worried about.
 
upNdown said:
But you’d need three times as many driver, willing to work 1/3 of the hours. I don’t think that will work.
But I’m with you (and @BarrieJ3 I think) with the high school thing - those young people are perpetually sleep deprived and it’s a problem. So they drink all those drinks that RFK is worried about.
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they pushed our HS starting time back an hour, and some of the sports practices were moved to before school (at 5:30-6:00am) because school got out too late. HS sports around here start at 4pm, especially since most non-football fields are not lit. Baseball season starts this weekend, so games need to be done by 6:30ish. If high school were to start at 8am, it wouldn't be out until 3:30-4, and now you can't travel to the school you're playing in time. Same with softball, and spring sports. Either way, 33% of the parents are going to bitch about how late school starts and how late they get out; 33% are going to bitch that their kids have to come in earlier now for practice, and 34% of the parents aren't really going to care either way (some are happy they can sleep in a tad to wake them up later).
 
upNdown said:
But you’d need three times as many driver, willing to work 1/3 of the hours. I don’t think that will work.
But I’m with you (and @BarrieJ3 I think) with the high school thing - those young people are perpetually sleep deprived and it’s a problem. So they drink all those drinks that RFK is worried about.
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It’s what Krafty highlighted, intentionally or not.

Too high % of kids, parents, admins, and teachers don’t care enough to support a change AND it could all be resolved with money, but we don’t even fund minimum requirements let alone large transitions to support students health and well being.

IMO school attending children desperately need their own union/representation. Not sure why we all get to just f*ck them over
nonstop.
 
krafticus said:
they pushed our HS starting time back an hour, and some of the sports practices were moved to before school (at 5:30-6:00am) because school got out too late. HS sports around here start at 4pm, especially since most non-football fields are not lit. Baseball season starts this weekend, so games need to be done by 6:30ish. If high school were to start at 8am, it wouldn't be out until 3:30-4, and now you can't travel to the school you're playing in time. Same with softball, and spring sports. Either way, 33% of the parents are going to bitch about how late school starts and how late they get out; 33% are going to bitch that their kids have to come in earlier now for practice, and 34% of the parents aren't really going to care either way (some are happy they can sleep in a tad to wake them up later).
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Total tangent, but I've always marveled that Nantucket High School sports teams actually play anybody. The high speed ferry trip takes over an hour each way. But then some of the towns they play are more than an hour drive to or from the ferry. 6-8 hour trips must be routine.
Anyway, high school is hard.
 
BarrieJ3 said:
IMO school attending children desperately need their own union/representation. Not sure why we all get to just f*ck them over
nonstop.
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Kids are in school to learn.

Times I have used trigonometry in adulthood: 0
Times I have had to deal with getting f*cked over: 842,917,503
 
Poker Zombie said:
Kids are in school to learn.

Times I have used trigonometry in adulthood: 0
Times I have had to deal with getting f*cked over: 842,917,503
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Sadly, the sports programs rule the schools, with learning coming in 2nd place. When push comes to shove, that’s how the big universities work as well, as that’s their money maker.
 
BS: driving into a potential tornado for practice because the coaches don’t want to cancel the last practice before a tournament, only to have the practice canceled anyway 2 minutes before the start. (I live 30 minutes from the practice location)

No worries - the practice was rescheduled for Friday night :mad:
 
ChipFinderSK said:
BS: driving into a potential tornado for practice because the coaches don’t want to cancel the last practice before a tournament, only to have the practice canceled anyway 2 minutes before the start. (I live 30 minutes from the practice location)

No worries - the practice was rescheduled for Friday night :mad:
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Weather cancelations are always the toughest choice for coaches. You're wrong when you cancel and wrong when you dont. At least it was a practice and there were no fees involved. Deciding to cancel a game early enough so that you don't incur umpire / referee show-up fees is even tougher.
 
chippitydoodah said:
Weather cancelations are always the toughest choice for coaches. You're wrong when you cancel and wrong when you dont. At least it was a practice and there were no fees involved. Deciding to cancel a game early enough so that you don't incur umpire / referee show-up fees is even tougher.
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They need to adopt the school system’s approach: cancel that shit on any potential for inclement weather (at least 2 days of school are cancelled each year due to the threat of snow, and we end up with just rain)

Also BS: MD weather. Within 24 hours, we had 80 degree temps, a tornado, and today it snowed.
 
ChipFinderSK said:
They need to adopt the school system’s approach: cancel that shit on any potential for inclement weather (at least 2 days of school are cancelled each year due to the threat of snow, and we end up with just rain)

Also BS: MD weather. Within 24 hours, we had 80 degree temps, a tornado, and today it snowed.
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Same up here - BS PA weather - 78° yesterday and flurries today (sorry but we skipped the tornado but it rained like a mf'er last night.
The difference with school and rec sports is make-up games. Nobody wants to cancel a game if it can possibly be played. I've raced all over my area on game days checking fields for youth games and my own games to see if they're playable, will dry and become playable by game time or could be raked and dried with Quick Dry to be made playable. Trying to decide if we could get 5 innings in before the "predicted" storm arrived. It's all bullshit.
 
Actually it proves why it is the best sport because we go through all of this to actually play the game.
 
ChipFinderSK said:
BS: driving into a potential tornado for practice because the coaches don’t want to cancel the last practice before a tournament, only to have the practice canceled anyway 2 minutes before the start. (I live 30 minutes from the practice location)

No worries - the practice was rescheduled for Friday night :mad:
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Hey, they gave you the whole evening back!
 
The goal is always to play the game. Baseball just happens to be one of those "weather dependent" sports.
 
ChipFinderSK said:
They need to adopt the school system’s approach: cancel that shit on any potential for inclement weather (at least 2 days of school are cancelled each year due to the threat of snow, and we end up with just rain)

Also BS: MD weather. Within 24 hours, we had 80 degree temps, a tornado, and today it snowed.
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I raise.
Florida weather. Don't like it? Wait 10 minutes.
I do PA for my daughter's high school's baseball team. (Coach is a college buddy) Last year he said the deal was show up regardless of the weather so I could be in on the reschedule convo.
Yesterday we had a 4:30/6:30 JV/varsity DH scheduled. At 2pm I got the surprising call it was all banged, a shock because it's the last game before Spring Break and nothing's scheduled for another 2 weeks. The weather (same storms that delayed the Players Championship if you were watching).
 
My weekly free poker tournament. I move a player from another table to the player that just busted's seat (the big blind of the hand that just finished). The small blind of the hand that just finished(would be button if nobody moved) insists that I can't have that new player be dealt in and that he gets to be button. I point out that its just a dead small and that the dude to the left of the player coming in is the new big blind.

Is this okay, did the player coming in have to wait? Why can't I mandate mandatory passing the dealer button in a tourney to keep things moving? Was the dude right in complaining if so I owe someone an apology.

For what its worth I always pull the person behind the dealer puck from the table that needs players to move out.
 
MC_CPA said:
My weekly free poker tournament. I move a player from another table to the player that just busted's seat (the big blind of the hand that just finished). The small blind of the hand that just finished(would be button if nobody moved) insists that I can't have that new player be dealt in and that he gets to be button. I point out that its just a dead small and that the dude to the left of the player coming in is the new big blind.

Is this okay, did the player coming in have to wait? Why can't I mandate mandatory passing the dealer button in a tourney to keep things moving? Was the dude right in complaining if so I owe someone an apology.

For what its worth I always pull the person behind the dealer puck from the table that needs players to move out.
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Not going to look up the fancy official rules so I could be wrong, but typically in tournaments I see people pull UTG/next person to be BB from the table that is moving a player. That player would then come in to the new table and be able to play after the button passes, or immediately if it doesn’t impact the movement of the blinds/button. The former SB should still get their button, there would be no SB, and former UTG is the new BB. New player sits out until next hand when the button moves past them.

In the end it’s your tournament and house rules are in play, as long as those rules are clearly communicated and consistent. I could be way off, that’s just how I’ve seen it done.
 
A moved player can come in to the big blind, but not the small blind.

If he comes in to the small blind he sits that hand and next until the button passes him, then he can play as normal with no blinds posted until the button comes around again. This avoids the existing players at the table posting BB or SB twice (a problem that doesn't happen if the moved player sits in the big blind and posts).

You should have moved the player to the SB, but sat him out until the button passed him. The other players should've posted as they normally would as if the seat was empty. Once the button passes the moved player, the moved player gets dealt in and play proceeds normally.
 

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