T100 base tourney set breakdown (2 Viewers)

[BmoreTerp]

Looking for breakdown recommendations for a t100 base tourney set for 2 tables. I’m flexible with starting stack T10,000 / T25,000 ect but definitely pretty set on T100 base.

Did my best with the search for breakdowns, but T5 and T25 base are much more popular. Going with the 43mm Apache Project chips so i’m trying to get the higher denominations in play with the oversize chips in a high roller tourney format. Thanks!

 

[BmoreTerp]

@BGinGA ? Any help would be appreciated. Even a link to a relevant thread that I probably missed would be great.

 

[allforcharity]

10/6/6/3 for T25K?

 

[Frogzilla]

I'll throw out one there. Starting stack: 15/5/6/0 for 10k, and add 5k as needed. For up to 20 players:

300x 100
100x 500
150x 1000 (30 extras for colorups)
100x 5000 (40 extras for colorups/rebuys)
50x 10000 or 25000 (additional flexibility on stack depth, rebuys, addons, etc)

Total 700 chips.

 

[BGinGA]

Looking for breakdown recommendations for a t100 base tourney set for 2 tables. I’m flexible with starting stack T10,000 / T25,000 ect but definitely pretty set on T100 base.

Going with the 43mm Apache Project chips so i’m trying to get the higher denominations in play with the oversize chips in a high roller tourney format.

Personally, I wouldn't use anything smaller than T20K starting stacks with a T100-base set -- it's only 100BB with 100/200 opening blinds, and about the absolute minimum stack size that I'd want to start with in a non-turbo event.

T50K stacks (250BB) would be much better imo, and even using those big stacks in a two-table tournament won't require the use of any high-denomination chips larger than T25000 (and you'll only need 12 of those, unless you are getting a lot of re-buys with 50K stacks).

So if you're envisioning the 43mm T100K chips in play, using a T100-base set won't get you there (at least not with just 20 players), since the T5000 chips are still required to remain in play until tournament end. At most, just two or three 100K chips would ever see play under nearly all circumstances.

Recommended T100-base set for 20 players with 20K (10/6/11/1) to 50K (10/6/11/7) starting stacks (using 25-chip increments as a purchase requirement):

200 x T100
125 x T500
225 x T1000
175 x T5000
50 x T25K
25 x T100K
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800 chips, with sufficient extras for color-ups, re-buys, and much larger (up to T200K) starting stacks. T5000 chips are used to color-up the T100s, and T25000 chips are used to simultaneously color-up the T500 and T1000 chips.

 

[nostan]

Personally, I wouldn't use anything smaller than T20K starting stacks with a T100-base set -- it's only 100BB with 100/200 opening blinds, and about the absolute minimum stack size that I'd want to start with in a non-turbo event.

T50K stacks (250BB) would be much better imo, and even using those big stacks in a two-table tournament won't require the use of any high-denomination chips larger than T25000 (and you'll only need 12 of those, unless you are getting a lot of re-buys with 50K stacks).

So if you're envisioning the 43mm T100K chips in play, using a T100-base set won't get you there (at least not with just 20 players), since the T5000 chips are still required to remain in play until tournament end. At most, just two or three 100K chips would ever see play under nearly all circumstances.

Recommended T100-base set for 20 players with 20K (10/6/11/1) to 50K (10/6/11/7) starting stacks (using 25-chip increments as a purchase requirement):

200 x T100
125 x T500
225 x T1000
175 x T5000
50 x T25K
25 x T100K
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800 chips, with sufficient extras for color-ups, re-buys, and much larger (up to T200K) starting stacks. T5000 chips are used to color-up the T100s, and T25000 chips are used to simultaneously color-up the T500 and T1000 chips.

How about using T25k in the starting stack in a WSOP-main inspired T60.000? Would this work for 9-players:

10/6/11/4/1? And which breakdown does it require?

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Personally, I wouldn't use anything smaller than T20K starting stacks with a T100-base set -- it's only 100BB with 100/200 opening blinds, and about the absolute minimum stack size that I'd want to start with in a non-turbo event.

T50K stacks (250BB) would be much better imo, and even using those big stacks in a two-table tournament won't require the use of any high-denomination chips larger than T25000 (and you'll only need 12 of those, unless you are getting a lot of re-buys with 50K stacks).

So if you're envisioning the 43mm T100K chips in play, using a T100-base set won't get you there (at least not with just 20 players), since the T5000 chips are still required to remain in play until tournament end. At most, just two or three 100K chips would ever see play under nearly all circumstances.

Recommended T100-base set for 20 players with 20K (10/6/11/1) to 50K (10/6/11/7) starting stacks (using 25-chip increments as a purchase requirement):

200 x T100
125 x T500
225 x T1000
175 x T5000
50 x T25K
25 x T100K
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800 chips, with sufficient extras for color-ups, re-buys, and much larger (up to T200K) starting stacks. T5000 chips are used to color-up the T100s, and T25000 chips are used to simultaneously color-up the T500 and T1000 chips.

Which chip breakdown in increments of 25 should I buy if I want to host a 2 table tournament (max 20 players) and want to play both T100 base and T500 base with 50k and 100k starting stacks, with rebuys and add-ons (1 per person)? The case comes with 1000 chips. Not simultaniously of course but for example one week we play T100 base and another week T500 base. I only want to buy one 1000 chipcase that is able to play both tourneys.

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Which chip breakdown in increments of 25 should I buy if I want to host a 2 table tournament (max 20 players) and want to play both T100 base and T500 base with 50k and 100k starting stacks, with rebuys and add-ons (1 per person)? The case comes with 1000 chips. Not simultaniously of course but for example one week we play T100 base and another week T500 base. I only want to buy one 1000 chipcase that is able to play both tourneys.

This came to mind with starting stacks of 10/8/10/7 and 10/10/7/2:
T100 x 200
T500 x 200
T1000 x 200
T5000 x 200
T25000 x 150
T100000 x 50

This should suffice I think.

All including color ups, re-buys (1 per player) and add-ons (1 per player). Any other suggestions?

 

[Silver_Fiend]

You have to keep your game run-time in mind for your starting stacks and blinds. You can make the stacks as deep as you want, but you will either have to have insanely short blind timelines or else a very long tournament. for home games, you really have no need for 25K or larger chips unless you are just going to have your lowest chip / blinds start crazy high as well.

 

[Frode789]

You can make the stacks as deep as you want, but you will either have to have insanely short blind timelines or else a very long tournament. for home games, you really have no need for 25K or larger chips unless you are just going to have your lowest chip / blinds start crazy high as well.

T25K can work in a T100 based set, without starting with super high blinds. T100K, less so, as BGinGA pointed out, very few will see play when you already have the T25K (and only two tables).

For example having a 300 BB freeze out deep stack tournament with start stack of 90K and starting at 100 - 300 blind level. Levels at 20 minutes for a ~6 hour tournament. Last level will typically be during the 80K level (22BB) with up to 20 players (1.8M chips in play), but could also be at the 60K level (30BB).
At f.ex 2K - 4K level, with just a raise of 8K and two callers in the blinds, you already have 24K in the pot. T25K makes for a pot size bet.

And there will be ~5 levels at the end after the T1Ks are removed, with more T25K in play.

You can have start stacks of f.ex 10/6/11/10/1.

200 x T100
125 x T500
225 x T1000
200 x T5000
50 x 25K.
= 800 chips.

T100/T500 T25K x3 + T1K x5 (80K).
T1000 T25K x9 (225K).
Even though this was a freeze out (300BB deep), 50 25K covers 6 re-buys (which is within the typical re-buy rate of ~20%, since you here have 30%, so you have some buffer).

To cover re-buys and addons completely (20 of each), it would be (re-buy 90K, addon f.ex 30K (33%) ), though this might stretch it into the 120K BB level (~2,6M chips in play with 4 re-buys and 15 addons).

200 x T100
125 x T500
225 x T1000
225 x T5000 (then you'll have spare T5K to color up the T100/T500s, instead of using T1K as above).
125 x T25K.
= 900 chips.

 

[P0k3rch1p]

I am not planning on using 100k chips in a T100 base tourney. I thought they would come in handy as rebuy and add-on chips in the T500 base tourney. Also if we want to play deeper stacked than 100k. For example 200k or 300k.

 

[BGinGA]

This came to mind with starting stacks of 10/8/10/7 and 10/10/7/2:
T100 x 200
T500 x 200
T1000 x 200
T5000 x 200
T25000 x 150
T100000 x 50

This should suffice I think.

All including color ups, re-buys (1 per player) and add-ons (1 per player). Any other suggestions?

Seems reasonable, although I think you'd get more use out of the set with a 175/25 breakdown of upper denoms, or simply 200x T25k chips and no T100k. If you weren't restricted to 25ct quantities, I'd add just 10x T100k chips (which should be plenty).

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Seems reasonable, although I think you'd get more use out of the set with a 175/25 breakdown of upper denoms, or simply 200x T25k chips and no T100k. If you weren't restricted to 25ct quantities, I'd add just 10x T100k chips (which should be plenty).

I asked our poker group and they prefer sticking with just one base, T100.

I saw your breakdown of 800 chips. Would this be a good setup just to get to the 1000 chipset?
225 x T100
175 x T500
250 x T1000
225 x T5000
100 x T25.000
25 x T100.000

I probably don't need the T100k chips and it is overkill, but do you know a better way to breakdown 1000 chips for max 20 players, with max 1 rebuy and 1 add-on per player, and also deepstack freezeout?

Thanks in advance

 

[Silver_Fiend]

I asked our poker group and they prefer sticking with just one base, T100.

I saw your breakdown of 800 chips. Would this be a good setup just to get to the 1000 chipset?
225 x T100
175 x T500
250 x T1000
225 x T5000
100 x T25.000
25 x T100.000

I probably don't need the T100k chips and it is overkill, but do you know a better way to breakdown 1000 chips for max 20 players, with max 1 rebuy and 1 add-on per player, and also deepstack freezeout?

Thanks in advance

have you played with this? https://www.pokerchipforum.com/pages/poker-chip-calculator/

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Yes thanks. But I also want to know your opinions

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

I'd do starting blinds of 100-100 on starting stack ranging from 10.000 (100 BB) to 30.000 (300 BB).

Assuming freezeout and no ante.

T100 x 200
T500 x 120
T1000 x 240
T5000 x 80
T25,000 x 15

Starting stack 10/6/11/x
Color-up of the 100 with 1000
Color-up of the 500 with 5000
Color-up of the 1000 with 25,000

Don't hesitate to get spares in case of loss, ...

If you need rebuys, then add the corresponding extra 5000 and maybe 25,000. If one per player then maybe add 70 x 5000 and 10 x 25,000 (10 first rebuys get 6 x 5000) and the next 10 get (1 x 5000 and 1 x 25,000 and make some change).

If you play with ante, you might want more T100.

 

[Frode789]

I'd do starting blinds of 100-100 on starting stack ranging from 10.000 (100 BB) to 30.000 (300 BB).

Assuming freezeout and no ante.

T100 x 200
T500 x 120
T1000 x 240
T5000 x 80
T25,000 x 15

Starting stack 10/6/11/x
Color-up of the 100 with 1000
Color-up of the 500 with 5000
Color-up of the 1000 with 25,000

Don't hesitate to get spares in case of loss, ...

If you need rebuys, then add the corresponding extra 5000 and maybe 25,000. If one per player then maybe add 70 x 5000 and 10 x 25,000 (10 first rebuys get 6 x 5000) and the next 10 get (1 x 5000 and 1 x 25,000 and make some change).

If you play with ante, you might want more T100.

The T25K is in less usage in such a small stack size though, with the tournament ending around or right after removing the T1K. But if utilizing the T25K wasn't a big point, then it's good.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

30K freezeout - 2 tables, the game would end around level 15K-30K. Usually, T1000 are removed after level 8K - 16K and just before level 10K - 20K. So The T25K would be used 2 levels. You can add one level if played with rebuys probably. So if level of 20' I think they still make sense.

In the breakdown I proposed, I wanted to cover 100BB - 300BB starting stack possibilities. As you said, it all depends on the starting stack.

I think the breakpoint to use them for at least 2 levels is 20,000 starting stacks 2 tables with rebuys/addon.

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Starting stack would be 50k with max 1 rebuy and max 1 add-on (full stack) per person.

Or 100k freeze out.

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

Will you play with antes (even BBA) ?

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Will you play with antes (even BBA) ?

No antes

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

So, I think the following will work :

T100 x 200
T500 x 120
T1000 x 240
T5000 x 160
T25,000 x 55 (could round up to 60)
T100,000 x 8 (could round up to 10) -- optional, would only be used for one level if you color-up the T5,000 for the last level.

Starting stack 50K : 10/6/11/7
Rebuy or add-on : 2 x 25K
Starting stack 100K : 10/6/11/7/2

Color-up of T100 with T1000
Color-up of T500 with T5000
Color-up of T1000 with T25,000
Color-up of T5000 with T100,000 -- optional, would only be used for one level if you color-up the T5,000 for the last level.

Don't hesitate to take a few spares in case of loss, ...

 

[P0k3rch1p]

So, I think the following will work :

T100 x 200
T500 x 120
T1000 x 240
T5000 x 160
T25,000 x 55 (could round up to 60)
T100,000 x 8 (could round up to 10) -- optional, would only be used for one level if you color-up the T5,000 for the last level.

Starting stack 50K : 10/6/11/7
Rebuy or add-on : 2 x 25K
Starting stack 100K : 10/6/11/7/2

Color-up of T100 with T1000
Color-up of T500 with T5000
Color-up of T1000 with T25,000
Color-up of T5000 with T100,000 -- optional, would only be used for one level if you color-up the T5,000 for the last level.

Don't hesitate to take a few spares in case of loss, ...

Thanks Kid.

The case consists of 1000 chips in increments of 25. Which chips should I add to get to the amount of 1000 total? And is 10/8/10/7/(2) a better breakdown than 10/6/11/7/(2)?

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

They are both equivalent in my opinion.
If you prefer 10/8/10 then you shall have
T100 x 200
T500 x 160
T1000 x 220
The rest is the same.

 

[P0k3rch1p]

They are both equivalent in my opinion.
If you prefer 10/8/10 then you shall have
T100 x 200
T500 x 160
T1000 x 220
The rest is the same.

Ok so this breakdown should suffice if I would to buy the 1000 chip case in increments of 25?
225 x T100
175 x T500
250 x T1000
225 x T5000
100 x T25.000
25 x T100.000

 

[Kid_Eastwood]

It's more than enough yes.

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Thanks for all the replies guys. It is much appreciated!

 

[Vice]

For a T25000 I use 15/11/18 as a starting stack and the 5K's don't come in until later. I have a lot of chips though to make this happen.

 

[BGinGA]

Starting stack would be 50k with max 1 rebuy and max 1 add-on (full stack) per person.

Or 100k freeze out.

Yeah, I'd do 250bb stacks: 50k with 100/200 starting blinds. For 20x 15/7/10/7/(2) starting stacks using 25cnt restrictions and 1000 total chips:

300 x T100
150 x T500 (10 spares)
200 x T1000
200 x T5000 (60x for T100/T500 color-ups and re-buys)
125 x T25000 (72x for re-buys/add-ons, 13 spares)
25 x T100000 (10x for T1000 color-ups, 15 spares)
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1000 chips

The set has 50x extra T5000s for the first 10 re-buys (using 5x plus a T25k), and 60x extra T25k chips to cover 10 more rebuys and 20 add-ons (using 2x for both) or the larger 100k starting stacks.

Very few extra/unused chips with this configuration.

 

[P0k3rch1p]

Yeah, I'd do 250bb stacks: 50k with 100/200 starting blinds. For 20x 15/7/10/7/(2) starting stacks using 25cnt restrictions and 1000 total chips:

300 x T100
150 x T500 (10 spares)
200 x T1000
200 x T5000 (60x for T100/T500 color-ups and re-buys)
125 x T25000 (72x for re-buys/add-ons, 13 spares)
25 x T100000 (10x for T1000 color-ups, 15 spares)
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1000 chips

The set has 50x extra T5000s for the first 10 re-buys (using 5x plus a T25k), and 60x extra T25k chips to cover 10 more rebuys and 20 add-ons (using 2x for both) or the larger 100k starting stacks.

Very few extra/unused chips with this configuration.

Thanks, great breakdown!