Sketchy behavior (1 Viewer)

[Darson]

After a lot of talk amongst the other guys, irrespective of whether I’m ok with this guy coming back, the others won’t be happy. There’s been a lot of talk and the positive is that another couple of players have surfaced so lose one gain two.

 

[Trihonda]

Ya, as we stated already, you try to keep one bad egg, and you’ll lose 2-3 good eggs, who won’t stand for shenanigans

Glad it’s working out.

 

[longflop]

After a lot of talk amongst the other guys, irrespective of whether I’m ok with this guy coming back, the others won’t be happy. There’s been a lot of talk and the positive is that another couple of players have surfaced so lose one gain two.

I think you handled this right. I know its a social game, and you're main goal is fun, but you gotta keep the group happy or else the game goes away. I think it was said earlier, but I probably wouldn't invite him back, plus I would say something to the guy who brought him and give him some grief next time he brings someone to make sure the point is driven home.

 

[CHP TD]

Hi Darson

This is the issue you get without rules. I sent you mine. look up rule 20.

 

[Schmendr1ck]

Ya, as we stated already, you try to keep one bad egg, and you’ll lose 2-3 good eggs, who won’t stand for shenanigans.

100%. So many common house rules exist to avoid the appearance of impropriety even when things are on the up and up.

If a game looks sketchy, players will leave. If the host has rules in place to eliminate as many sources of cheating/unfairness as possible, new players will notice this and will be comfortable coming back.

 

[grantc54]

I have printed rules specific to our game on hand for the last 10 years. I've only had to pull them out when I make a ruling and someone questions it. Even then people back off once they see that they are there, I never have had to actually crack them open.

People just want to know that rules exist and aren't being made up on the spot.

Grant

 

[Potsie1]

Hi Darson

This is the issue you get without rules. I sent you mine. look up rule 20.

Could you send to me as well?

 

[Darson]

I have printed rules specific to our game on hand for the last 10 years. I've only had to pull them out when I make a ruling and someone questions it. Even then people back off once they see that they are there, I never have had to actually crack them open.

People just want to know that rules exist and aren't being made up on the spot.

Grant

I never really thought of this. I didn't want to have a situation where everyone had to sit down for 10 minutes at the start of the game and read through 5 pages of rules. Especially for my first time hosting. But it makes a lot of sense just to tell them there are rules and to use common sense and if they want to read, they can on their own time.

Hi Darson

This is the issue you get without rules. I sent you mine. look up rule 20.

I'm editing your rules right now to have for next time.

 

[grantc54]

I never really thought of this. I didn't want to have a situation where everyone had to sit down for 10 minutes at the start of the game and read through 5 pages of rules. Especially for my first time hosting. But it makes a lot of sense just to tell them there are rules and to use common sense and if they want to read, they can on their own time.
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I also announce the big ones when playing bigger tournaments with new players:
- place bet in front of you
- no string betting
- one player to a hand
- keep cards on table

Thanks
Grant

 

[Lemonzest]

If someone has a concise copy of rules I am interested in a PM as well. I am not interested in a 50 page manual.

 

[Coyote]

Same here! Maybe something handy enough for home games could be made available for download

 

[T_Chan]

My home game rules on a poster on the wall, see rule #14:

 

[T_Chan]

Oh, and here's the rules booklet:

 

[JustinInMN]

In my signature I have a link to my home game rules.

I just have a most important quick list, and then a link to specific details and amendments to Robert's rules of poker for home games.

 

[JustinInMN]

There is also this thread where other pcf members have posted their house rules as examples.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/home-game-house-rules.12491/#post-199642

 

[Poker Zombie]

If someone has a concise copy of rules I am interested in a PM as well. I am not interested in a 50 page manual.

TDA rules handout

It's not as super concise as the T_Chan poster (which is perfectly acceptable), but only 6 pages and very brief. It also covers everything that you, as a host, should know before hosting your next game. Too many hosts consider this an option. It's not.

As for your player... Rule 24 covers it pretty well. Kept visible is never in your pocket.

However, I once played in a tournament in Las Vegas (Golden Nugget), where a player was just moved over to our table. He sat down, and started pulling chips out of his pocket. The floor was called over. You could see that is was an honest mistake when the TD told him that those chips would normally be taken out of play - the poor guy would have immediately been felted. After looking at his stack (he was short-stacked) the TD decided to let him keep them in play, with a stern warning. The table (and I) agreed he should be allowed to continue under Rule #1: The best interest of the game.

In your home game example, he might have honestly come from a game where ratholing is legal, but I don't think I could possibly allow his extra chips in play. He could continue with what he had in front, but anything coming out of the pocket was done. I would also insist that his pockets were turned inside out, to make sure I wasn't going to lose a chip - accidentally or intentionally - because customs are just too hard to replace.

Whether I invited him back or not would have to be a total judgement call. If the mistake was honest, then he could return. If he seemed shady all around, then no.