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Yes and yes! We have a few regular games after hours at work and a month ago someone ran a short deck 1/2 game. I really enjoyed it. We played the more common variant where three of a kind beats a straight (and flushes beat full houses of course). There are some interesting strategy adjustments, primarily
1. you are roughly 3% to hit one out (compared to 2% in NLHE).
2. suited cards go up in value preflop.
3. offsuit broadway cards are not that great preflop. you could argue that AKo is marginal in early position and AQo is a fold.
4. equities run close, similar to PLO.
5. don't play your straight draws too aggressively, you may be drawing dead against a set.
just off the top of my head. I'm looking forward to playing more.
1. you are roughly 3% to hit one out (compared to 2% in NLHE).
2. suited cards go up in value preflop.
3. offsuit broadway cards are not that great preflop. you could argue that AKo is marginal in early position and AQo is a fold.
4. equities run close, similar to PLO.
5. don't play your straight draws too aggressively, you may be drawing dead against a set.
just off the top of my head. I'm looking forward to playing more.
Kain8
Flush
Any game where I constantly don't get K4o or Q3o can't be all bad!
justsomedude
Straight Flush
This is my next push at my home games. It looks like way too much fun to ignore it!!
bsdunbar1
4 of a Kind
I have never heard of such a thing.
Man I love this site :wideeyed:
Man I love this site :wideeyed:
and adjusting their opening ranges
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What is 'pulled' from the deck to make it short?
definitely this.and adjusting their opening ranges
2s - 5s. A-6-7-8-9 is a wheel.
Give it time. Poker is like an aging rock star, constantly re-inventing her image.
This from USPOKER.COM:
"Triton Poker holds the proverbial trademark to Short Deck poker and already have plans to leverage the format in their next series. Coming to Korea starting on July 23 is the next Triton Super High Roller Series. Per Kevin Mathers’ Twitter, Phau noted that the schedule consists of four Short Deck events and two Long Deck.
Pot-Limit Omaha’s growth is at a new peak with casinos across the United States offering the game at the $1/$2 level. Should Short Deck continue to increase in popularity, it may not be too long before it too is the new “it” game for players at all levels."
DRacula
Pair
Yes, played it, love it, prefer it over regular NLHE
Any game with higher variance is good for the long term health of a home game.
IMO as far as action packed degenerate gambling fun goes: Short deck > PLO > Hold Em
Very fun game to integrate into your regular rotation if you have nitty players
Any game with higher variance is good for the long term health of a home game.
IMO as far as action packed degenerate gambling fun goes: Short deck > PLO > Hold Em
Very fun game to integrate into your regular rotation if you have nitty players
lol i can't even play NLHE HU
detroitdad
Royal Flush
We play big o, draw2maha, and sohe heads up
It's been a long and difficult effort to persuade (some of) my players to get rid of that cr@p here and get people to play true, standard, American, international -call it however you like - poker, with a full deck. I lost players and even friends in the process (in the latter case, the roots of course were other and deeper).
Most people here have played, for generations, exclusively short deck poker, in high-variance variants, with a wallpaper-sized board spread, in endless perverse combinations.
I guess the short deck must have been an invention by card sharpers and other criminals, the kind of guys who probably introduced the game to Greece, returning from America in the early 1900s. Only the Internet introduced full deck poker on a massive scale.
A problem (and a persuading factor to move away from that sh*t) is that, with a short deck, hand ranks must be altered according to the game variant.
In more austere variants (supposedly when no more than 7 cards are available to pick your 5), flush beats full house, mind you.
In "lush" variants (where it takes you forever to figure out what hand you are holding, studying the wallpaper/board) three of a kind beats straight.
I had to face even more resistance when attempting to introduce the blinds betting structure, instead of an ante by all (and then check limping to death), but that's another story.
Make this thread unavailable for visiting IP addresses from Greece, other than those approved by @kerami and myself
Most people here have played, for generations, exclusively short deck poker, in high-variance variants, with a wallpaper-sized board spread, in endless perverse combinations.
I guess the short deck must have been an invention by card sharpers and other criminals, the kind of guys who probably introduced the game to Greece, returning from America in the early 1900s. Only the Internet introduced full deck poker on a massive scale.
A problem (and a persuading factor to move away from that sh*t) is that, with a short deck, hand ranks must be altered according to the game variant.
In more austere variants (supposedly when no more than 7 cards are available to pick your 5), flush beats full house, mind you.
In "lush" variants (where it takes you forever to figure out what hand you are holding, studying the wallpaper/board) three of a kind beats straight.
I had to face even more resistance when attempting to introduce the blinds betting structure, instead of an ante by all (and then check limping to death), but that's another story.
Make this thread unavailable for visiting IP addresses from Greece, other than those approved by @kerami and myself
My group also. NLHE is the only game they know.
Playing split pot games heads-up?
"Okay Bob, let's just go all-in dark every hand, eventually one of us will scoop and we can move to the full table."
pretty great short-deck tournament (but with straights beating sets) going on in South Korea this week:
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If I see a short deck, I'm looking for a cribbage board unless I spot a six.
GIANTDustySquid
Straight
What would you say is the best way to play it, straights VS set wise?
i prefer the variant where sets beat straights because I can stack people who overvalue their straights
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