Not like the inlays are gonna remain on most of the ones that are bought here anyways... #SerialMurder
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ANNND, I didn't notice that either, because I've really just been looking at the 5, 25, 100, 500.
What a strange rack this is, with all the inlay variations.
There should be a series of courses offered through PCF for chip design. GPI could make it a pre-requisite to submitting an order to increase profits.
Casino Chip Design 101
Casino Chip Design 201
Advanced Concepts in Chip Design including Progression Theory.
Well Jim -- I've been retired from the chip buying gig for many years now -- there was something tonight that made me log in and just see how things were going here. 30 pages later and unfortunately (?) a bit of expendable income due to being empty nesters now, I'm actually considering jumping back in. I've even considered asking your permission to hop on a flight and offer to help with the sorting party (not to assume for one second you'd be OK with that) -- but years ago I helped a friend here who does what you do, but on a smaller scale, sort all the Hooters Chips out of Tukwila (I think). It was a couple days of such fun -- didn't ask for a dime in compensation of any sort -- just the joy of it. Honestly, knowing the fever I see in this thread, you could probably CHARGE people to come help. Ha! We'll see if I get a sample set -- I'm such a sucker for oversized chips. Thanks for the making me feel 45 again. 
Johnblue
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Well Jim -- I've been retired from the chip buying gig for many years now -- there was something tonight that made me log in and just see how things were going here. 30 pages later and unfortunately (?) a bit of expendable income due to being empty nesters now, I'm actually considering jumping back in. I've even considered asking your permission to hop on a flight and offer to help with the sorting party (not to assume for one second you'd be OK with that) -- but years ago I helped a friend here who does what you do, but on a smaller scale, sort all the Hooters Chips out of Tukwila (I think). It was a couple days of such fun -- didn't ask for a dime in compensation of any sort -- just the joy of it. Honestly, knowing the fever I see in this thread, you could probably CHARGE people to come help. Ha! We'll see if I get a sample set -- I'm such a sucker for oversized chips. Thanks for the making me feel 45 again.
Lemonzest
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We do, been discussed in the last 10+ pages here.
GetUrShineBox
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I'm fairly new so don't know the "flippers" here but if someone picks up Jim's chips for $1/chip and then a week later lists them for $1.50/ chip can't the veterans or people that hate that just simply stat in the sale thread. "these chips were $1 in the chip room sale how nice of you to go in a different direction and price them for $1.50"
Seems like that might derail things a little.
Marhault
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It's a fine line. There's no thread crapping. The mod response would likely be if you don't agree with the price don't buy it. My argument would be maybe someone else wasn't aware of the lower sale price. I try to tell people in PMs when I see it. Often times it's too late.
JustDogbert
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There is also the possibility that people, like myself, are willing to pay a premium to not have to buy hundred to thousands of chips that they don't want just to get the rack they do want. Or have to go through the time and aggravation of trying to flip the ones they don't want.
No, that would probably not be allowed per pcf rules, unfortunately.
Personally, I agree with a 'no thread crapping' policy, but I do not see an issue with politely pointing out out lower prices elsewhere in someone's sales thread. It's a community service imo.
Curious if it would make sense to offer a handful of the standard PCF 600 chip set?
Lemonzest
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It is a little more complicated then that. What if someone buys 1,000 chips and plans to keep only 100. Of the remaining 900 chips they sell 500 at a loss. To offset that loss they sell their remaining 400 chips at a marked up price to ultimately break even.
Now, if someone comes along and only sees their set of 400 chips for sale at what appears to be a marked up "flippers" price then out come the pitchforks even though on the whole they didn't profit.
I have never bought any chips through one of these sales as I generally pass on RHC chips. I didn't follow the prices or reseller prices of the Jack chips either so I have no clue how those were valuated and resold. I am just pointing out that if you want to be the price police it is a full time job and you are also probably going to be wrong a lot.
I have been around a while. As much as people publicly decry flipping there aren't very many people here that haven't sold chips for more than they paid. Tons of the "I hate flippers"sentiment is marinated in hypocrisy. Not naming names just an observation on the whole.
In other words, flipping is bad when other people do it...
Not "unfortunately" IMO. It is a personal sales thread and people have the right to ask for whatever they want without nosey people chiming in with their "smartest person in the world" 5¢.
It boggles my mind people still think they are (not you, Dave) the guardians of the pricing universe. For every person, and i mean EVERY SINGLE PERSON, there is a different perspective on pricing and value. Why do those people think their OPINION is law?!?!?! GTFO... I digress...
Marhault
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My point is this. If you had a friend or acquaintance who was planning on buying an item. You felt the item was overpriced and knew of someone selling said item for less or knew of examples of something being sold for less would you tell them and let them make the decision from there? Or would you just let them make the choice uninformed? I know what I would do.
Write your friend and share your opinion. Isn't that simple? A sale thread is NOT the place for 306 people chiming in about what is fair or not fair.
But I'm definitely not starting a discussion about this issue.
Marhault
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That's precisely what I do. I would never expect someone to come and shit on a sale thread but pointing out that the item is available cheaper elsewhere I don't think is an issue. I'm not talking about bad mouthing the seller or even making a big deal about it.
This is a niche hobby and a lot of newer members don't know or understand the value of the chips they're looking at. Hell I've been doing it a long time and even I have things that I'm confused or ask for advice before purchasing. I think we've all been burned by something that was overpriced or blatantly flipped at one point or another I just think that kind of behavior should be discouraged and actively fought. It's more for newer members who are unaware. People with more money than sense you can't help lol.
Wait. All you guys are saying I shouldn't be doing what I'm doing??!... I'm so confused....
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It's almost like there's a solution for people who don't flip. Like including where the chips they're selling came from. 
Even I have generally given up on pointing out/attacking flipping. Lemonzest's extremely specific example is an absolute joke (pitchforks don't come out for the guy making $60 back on a partial set), but I do agree with one aspect. Most of the people that I see join the anti flipping rhetoric have regularly listed items and made some bucks. This realization is what caused me to slow down, cmon noone's giving up free money.
I gave up and agreed, free market, everyone do whatever they want. And for the new folks, they'll either reach out and ask for help or get taken for a ride. Having the new user manual/welcome message/etc. will help negate that. I believe it's currently in the works.
Even I have generally given up on pointing out/attacking flipping. Lemonzest's extremely specific example is an absolute joke (pitchforks don't come out for the guy making $60 back on a partial set), but I do agree with one aspect. Most of the people that I see join the anti flipping rhetoric have regularly listed items and made some bucks. This realization is what caused me to slow down, cmon noone's giving up free money.
I gave up and agreed, free market, everyone do whatever they want. And for the new folks, they'll either reach out and ask for help or get taken for a ride. Having the new user manual/welcome message/etc. will help negate that. I believe it's currently in the works.
GetUrShineBox
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Gotcha, i understand, good insight.
I don't follow enough so it doesn't really bother me much.
For all the new people out there, DO NOT BELIEVE the above!
Are there occasional flippers here and there? Sure. They have always been around, it's nothing new. Some have been around for 10 years. However, the absolute great majority of folks around these parts are great people. Many, many of them travel around the US and internationally to play poker together. This is NOT a community of scumbags as some people might want you to believe.
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Do we really need to go down this road AGAIN?
Good points made on both sides.
I stick by my opinion that selling at cost is a courtesy and not a requirement.
Also in my experience, I’ve had conversations with people who add value for cleaning their chips amongst other things. Every situation will be different and if you’re going to judge them at least get some insight on it.
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I stick by my opinion that selling at cost is a courtesy and not a requirement.
Also in my experience, I’ve had conversations with people who add value for cleaning their chips amongst other things. Every situation will be different and if you’re going to judge them at least get some insight on it.
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It really does seem to pop up in every major thread.
Let Jim keep the sales-hype going. This is a nice opportunity for a lot of people.
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Dear lord I should've written that better apparently. Was trying to agree. I've always said the negative is the minority, positive the greater.
Forgot that folks here are routinely dealing with new members, chatting with them, and selling them chips. Obviously they have a better pulse on that than I.
Forgot that folks here are routinely dealing with new members, chatting with them, and selling them chips. Obviously they have a better pulse on that than I.
GetUrShineBox
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Yeah, sorry. I agree, i'm pumped about this sale!
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