SAVE YOUR MONEY (4 Viewers)

[BGinGA]

@BGinGA mentioned that the lower denoms were meant to be THC but Paulson screwed up.

I wonder if the smoother area around the small inlays is just a result of there being no cross hatching there. The compression of the clay into a smooth surface (where there would normally be a much larger inlay) might provide the illusion of a laminated surface, but it may just be smooth, shiny clay.

Wasn't me; I think Jim supplied that info. I suspect your appearance theory may be correct, however.

Any idea on what pricing was for the PCA sale?

Going from memory, prices on mint secondaries ranged from 75c for the RHC $1 chips, $1.50 for 50c, $5s, and $25s, $3 for hundos, and around $5-6 for the $500s. The used primaries were cheaper.

 

[BiGGyT]

I am very happy that once again Jim delivers an awesome amount of chips to the community and I know many of you are super excited about these, so as someone who has many chips and since my OCD would drive me crazy about the inlays, unless there are additional sample sets, I think I am going to bow out and let others aquire awesome chips at fantastic prices. Good luck to all, hope you get a great set!

Yes, that is a run on sentence, go away grammar police.

#defundthegrammarpo-po

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Edit : and spelling po-po too.

 

[Mac128k]

My 'invoice' was via email. But my original Empress order was
100 x $1
120 x $5
150 x $25
100 x $100
20 x $500
10 x $1000

And the grand total was.... $283.50

Man do I wish I could go back in time and tweak those quantities

I've always regretted that these hit the market while I was on hiatus

 

[Teach42]

I've always regretted that these hit the market while I was on hiatus

I just happened to get lucky, and was looking right as the sale occurred. Jumped on, bought, left. Didn't come back until last year when I decided to complete the set.

Pure dumb luck.

 

[Gucko]

Are these chips still available to purchase? I just joined PCF today, just bought some used Paulsons from Apache today, and saw these.

 

[Highli99]

Are these chips still available to purchase? I just joined PCF today, just bought some used Paulsons from Apache today, and saw these.

They have not been sold yet. We are still in the hype stage waiting for Jim to finish boxing and cataloguing his haul.

 

[wolfpack]

Are these chips still available to purchase? I just joined PCF today, just bought some used Paulsons from Apache today, and saw these.

The ones this thread is about have not went up for sale yet. jim is sorting them

 

[Chipandchair]

Are these chips still available to purchase? I just joined PCF today, just bought some used Paulsons from Apache today, and saw these.

Which chips did you buy from Apache??

 

[Gucko]

Thank you for the quick reply. As I said, I just joined today. Any idea what these might sell for?

Which chips did you buy from Apache??

I purchased 160 $1 Lady Luck Paulsons
and a 500 set of Lucky 21 Casino Paulsons, plus 2 barrels of $1 Lucky 21's

I am a little OCD with things like that. I bought Tiki Kings ceramics and the Paulsons at the same time. Used the Tiki Kings plenty, but never the Paulsons (too nice I guess). They just sat around. I looked them up the other day, and holy cow!! Of all the luck!

 

[Blacksox1]

 

[cvanem]

 

[Johnblue]

 

[Gucko]

What is a “secondary” chip? Is that a quality term such as ‘seconds’ or “one offs” or does it mean something else?

 

[Rieguy]

What is a “secondary” chip? Is that a quality term such as ‘seconds’ or “one offs” or does it mean something else?

Short version is that in case of an emergency regarding the primary (current chips on the floor) chips, such as their integrity is compromised, secondaries are the backup chips to come in and be used so they do not have to shut down operations temporarily to fix the issue.

 

[Gear]

What is a “secondary” chip? Is that a quality term such as ‘seconds’ or “one offs” or does it mean something else?

Some gaming jurisdictions require a backup set of chips, in case something happens that would compromise the security of the chips in play on the casino floor. I believe this requirement is so that the casino can keep operating, by switching out the chips almost immediately.

Hence, "primary" chips are the ones in use, and "secondary" are the backups in the vault, just in case.

 

[Gear]

Short version is that in case of an emergency regarding the primary (current chips on the floor) chips, such as their integrity is compromised, secondaries are the backup chips to come in and be used so they do not have to shut down operations temporarily to fix the issue.

Yeah, that. Beat me to it by mere seconds

 

[sleepyBama]

this has a bit of ominous feel to it... should be interesting.

 

[TheDuke]

What is a “secondary” chip? Is that a quality term such as ‘seconds’ or “one offs” or does it mean something else?

And to be clear, the terminology does not relate to any difference in quality.

 

[Gear]

And to be clear, the terminology does not relate to any difference in quality.

Well, strictly speaking that's true, but in practice, secondary chips rarely get put into play. There are such things as uncirculated primary chips, but often it's a safe assumption that "primary" means casino-used and "secondary" means new/unused.

 

[TheDuke]

Well, strictly speaking that's true, but in practice, secondary chips rarely get put into play. There are such things as uncirculated primary chips, but often it's a safe assumption that "primary" means casino-used and "secondary" means new/unused.

But that's a question of 'condition', not quality.

The terminology noted by the poster of 'seconds' usually refers to some type of defective product that is priced lower.

 

[Gear]

Oh! Yes, I see your meaning now. Yes, that's absolutely correct.

 

[Gucko]

Thank you for this explanation. I’ve heard of back up sets of chips before and I understand the logic behind that. Just wanted to be clear on what that word means in this instance. I now understand. Thank you all.

One more thing, when these chips do go on sale are they typically sold out in a matter of minutes or are there usually chances for many to get their hands on some? I know this is a tough question to answer because I am thinking every haul is a little bit different but hoping there may be some “generally speaking“ scenarios.

 

[Mangatang]

I’ve always wondered this, but don’t recall if I’ve heard the answer... Has any casino actually put their secondaries in play? If so, what were the circumstances?

If anyone knows, I’m sure it’s @BGinGA

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

I’ve always wondered this, but don’t recall if I’ve heard the answer... Has any casino actually put their secondaries in play? If so, what were the circumstances?

All the time it happens. My local casino has three versions live in some denoms.

 

[rimmerryan]

I’ve always wondered this, but don’t recall if I’ve heard the answer... Has any casino actually put their secondaries in play? If so, what were the circumstances?

If anyone knows, I’m sure it’s @BGinGA

Yes. Probably the most blatant instances are these:

- Motorcycle helmet theft at Bellagio where guy ran in wearing helmet and stole chips from craps table IIRC
- MGM when the riot/fighting erupted and power went out during Tyson fight.

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

Hells angels and mongols brawl 1996 Laughlin. Or they sometimes just RUN OUT OF CHIPS.

 

[cpiaaq]

Sycuan has a couple racks of $500s stolen. They then switched to the secondaries for that denim only

 

[BGinGA]

I’ve always wondered this, but don’t recall if I’ve heard the answer... Has any casino actually put their secondaries in play?

The entire backup set of Empress Casino Joliet was definitely used by the casino. Same for Casino Aztar Evansville, although their secondary $1000s were probably not in play. The secondary $5s at Casino Aztar Caruthersville were also used for casino play, but apparently none of the other denominations.

Casablanca Casino Aruba had more cash chips/sets in play than you could shake a stick at.... at least five.

There are many others where the backup sets were used in part (or occasionally in whole) for various reasons.

 

[wonderpuddle]

Thanks so much, exactly what I was wondering. I have the sample set so I know what you're saying with the flush inlay. Seems like the full size over label might be the way to go then.

For anyone thinking about relabeling chips with the smaller sized inlay who doesn’t want to use a larger unlaminated label over, it is possible to mill out a larger recess and use a laminated label. That’s what I did to the mandalay $1. The first pic is the chip with the smaller inlay, much like some of these horseshoe chips. Second pic is what it looks like now after I milled with a 1 inch bit and applied a laminated label in the new larger recess.

 

[Mangatang]

For anyone thinking about relabeling chips with the smaller sized inlay who doesn’t want to use a larger unlaminated label over, it is possible to mill out a larger recess and use a laminated label. That’s what I did to the mandalay $1. The first pic is the chip with the smaller inlay, much like some of these horseshoe chips. Second pic is what it looks like now after I milled with a 1 inch bit and applied a laminated label in the new larger recess.
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It looks like more than milling was involved. I guess some ultrasonic cleaning? Looks nice!