Relabel, or not? (1 Viewer)

[KHarp1]

I'm the new owner of this Tropicana set, and, initially thought I would relabel the snappers as quarters, but, now I'm questioning that. Any thoughts?

Pic is not mine, but from the original ad.

 

[Beakertwang]

I think they're a perfect candidate for a relabeled quarter.

 

[Marius L]

Depends what you plan to play. If you are playing 25c/50c cash games it seems like a great option to relabel them to fracs.

 

[dickthebaker]

Do it! I’ve got the art ready and have made labels for a few already if you're interested.

 

[BearMetal]

That's what I did! Makes my set playable...

 

[dickthebaker]

That's what I did! Makes my set playable...

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I was just looking up who I made them for!
Looking good!

 

[KHarp1]

Also, some random thoughts on these chips: they have a nice feel, softer than one might think just from looking at a plastic chip. They are slightly heavier than I prefer, weighing in at 13g. The weight is fairly uniform as several stacks of 10 all weighed at about the same 129g range. They stack well, less slippery than the BJ Intercontinental San Juan.

I doubt these will ever be "valuable" chips, but, was thinking value may be less without the snappers. I didn't buy them for an investment, but, was thinking about when I get done with them how would they move quickest, and, I'm thinking original would be the best. That leaves me explaining that we're playing. 25/.50 and the pink chips are quarters. Not sure I really like that.

 

[umbkcshah]

If it bothers you to play with $2.50 as quarters, then do it. Personally, I don't find it annoying. It's a nice touch, but not needed. However, if I had other 'mis-demon' chips in a set, I would probably feel differently.

For example, I bought some Aura snappers (gemaco) to use with my Black Bart (BJ V7) set because I don't like the BJ quarters that I were part of the set (different BJ version chip). I don't have any intention of relabeling right now.

EDIT: most people here I feel relabel snappers as quarters if anything, so it shouldn't hurt. Don't expect them to appreciate too much as there is a much smaller plastic are nice crowd.

 

[KHarp1]

I was just looking up who I made them for!
Looking good!

Well, we may need to talk if you're still up for making some more labels.

 

[dickthebaker]

Well, we may need to talk if you're still up for making some more labels.

Absolutely making a bunch right now. Dm me when you’re ready

 

[upNdown]

Also, some random thoughts on these chips: they have a nice feel, softer than one might think just from looking at a plastic chip. They are slightly heavier than I prefer, weighing in at 13g. The weight is fairly uniform as several stacks of 10 all weighed at about the same 129g range. They stack well, less slippery than the BJ Intercontinental San Juan.

I doubt these will ever be "valuable" chips, but, was thinking value may be less without the snappers. I didn't buy them for an investment, but, was thinking about when I get done with them how would they move quickest, and, I'm thinking original would be the best. That leaves me explaining that we're playing. 25/.50 and the pink chips are quarters. Not sure I really like that.

I’d question that. I’m the last guy to relabel, but I just question how much value there is to snappers. Most people don’t want to use them in a no limit set with $1s and $5s. At least I don’t think so. And we’re not talking about a chipset that is likely to increase in value significantly. At least I don’t think so. I’d say relabel away.

 

[KHarp1]

Yeah, I think you're right. They was my initial purchase plan. Think long, think wrong.

 

[bernielomax]

Yes, you should relabel. If you have the time and patience to do the work, all of the ground work has already been done with design/label work.

 

[TheOffalo]

I’ve played with the snappers as quarters a couple times without relabeling and my regulars had no problem adapting.

 

[BearMetal]

I’ve played with the snappers as quarters a couple times without relabeling and my regulars had no problem adapting.

If I used snappers in my games and told my crew that they were 25c, I'm thinking they would be fine with it. But then again these are dice-chip loving, anti-chipping troglodites. What matters is me and my OCD. And there's no way I could deal with it. I'd rather have a relabel that looks as good as these do (you rock @TheOffalo) than deal with chips where you have to ignore the label.

With regards to the set increasing in value, I don't think that's ever going to happen. These were like an impulse buy in the candy aisle of a gas station. Like there was no reason I should have bought these, if only for the fact that they were real casino chips manufactured by a company that I didn't currently possess for an extremely good price. And they're hella fun to play with. So I don't think you're going to really do anything to the value of the set over time by relabeling.

 

[KHarp1]

You, sir, are a wordsmith! Anyone that can use troglodite in a sentence is on the A list!

 

[KHarp1]

I don't honestly see me ever using the snappers as snappers in a live game, so that's a +1 on relabel, however, I've got other cash sets that have no snappers, so that's a +1 for keeping original. This shit could go on forever. What if some day I decide to have a game where I need snappers and I don't have any because I've relabeled? Fuck me, I'm getting neurotic.

 

[davislane]

save yourself the time and money and just use as a 25c and play as is.

 

[Johnblue]

If you play 25c often enough, do it. I am not positive, but you can probably get away with “ label over” type stickers I would at least look into that, @Gear makes them, he might be able to tell you if they would work on these chips/labels

Best of both worlds, thin sticker over the original, if you ever want to return them back, just peel em off again.

 

[TheOffalo]

The labels on these chips are basically flush with the plastic, there’s no tiny bit of recess for even an unlaminated label to go into. I tested making some laminated labels and applying them and they definitely make some wobbly stacks!

Edit: To clarify, I overlabeled on top without removing the existing label and the stacks were rather unstable. (I could have made unlaminated labels but I’d be afraid the ink would rub off; I’m not using professional printers like @Gear.)

 

[Marius L]

Edit: Misclick

 

[upNdown]

What if some day I decide to have a game where I need snappers and I don't have any because I've relabeled?

What, blackjack?
Seriously, you won’t ever need snappers to play poker.

 

[LeLe]

It depend on how OCD are you, most poker players will be fine with playing 2.50 as 25c

Of course, that will always be one guy that always complain no matter what choice you make thou

 

[Marius L]

If you havent decided yet:

1) these are not very collectible/valueable chips. And I'd venture to say they never will be. (thats not to say they are bad chips. Obviosuly a good chip for the price and what not, but they are not considered collectible imo.) Hence removing the original inlays wont matter for this.

2) Genreally snappers are pretty much never used in poker. They are certainly not used with $1 and $5 chips on the table (at least they are not at all needed unless you for some reason just LOVE the design and want them in play regardsless if making play slightly less efficient and smooth). They can be used in a couple very specific limit sets, but you'd need probably 8-10 racks of them if you were to use them for that anyways, but other than that they are not needed in poker.

3) if anything turning them into fracs would INCREASE their appeal to the average PCF buyer. The breakdown will be great for a 25c/50c game with those racks turned into fracs. That said the process costs a little bit in labels, and since the chips themselves are not super expensive it might not increase their value enough to offset the cost of labels/labor. However they will increase the usabilty a lot.

4) Lastly and this point is very important to me personally, but YMMW. Imo if you spend several hundred (or thousand) dollars on a chip set, the least you should expect is the denoms to be correct. Spedning that much and still have to tell the players something like "the $2.5 are actually 25c" just seems like a huge fail to me. lol.

 

[KHarp1]

Thanks @Marius L that is a great summation! I knew I would never use them as a snapper in any game I play. I do realize they will likely never be a valuable chip in the sense of collecting, that wasn't why I bought them. I did buy them with the intention of turning the snappers into fracs, seemed like a perfect situation for that, then, I started questioning that, not sure why I do that sort of thing. They would definitely have more value to me as a correctly labeled set.

Thanks for all that offered opinions. I had thought about the label over, but, these do appear pretty tight on tolerances. Relabel it is!

 

[Marius L]

I'm sure you'll be very happy with the result!

 

[tallsbutler]

Do it!!

 

[Annorax]

What, blackjack?
Seriously, you won’t ever need snappers to play poker.

I have used snappers in a live game. One of them, to be specific, as a rock/forced straddle. Other than that, snappers are a blackjack thing unless you're trying to do $5/$10 or $7.50/$15 limit with snappers.

 

[Annorax]

I don't honestly see me ever using the snappers as snappers in a live game, so that's a +1 on relabel, however, I've got other cash sets that have no snappers, so that's a +1 for keeping original. This shit could go on forever. What if some day I decide to have a game where I need snappers and I don't have any because I've relabeled? Fuck me, I'm getting neurotic.

You'll never need snappers, they're a blackjack thing only. I could see holding one or two as rocks for forced straddles/action stimulators, but snappers in poker are basically $7.5/$15 limit only.