Recommendations/Tips for finding local dealer for home game? (2 Viewers)

[geimerman]

Getting back into hosting a home game. 10 years+ ago we had a regular monthly game that we had a dealer come to. We had met the dealer cause one of the guys had won a "casino night" party at a silent auction. When he showed up we let him know we had all the supplies and he could just come in and deal. Great guy, kept the game running smoothly. He was a balckjack dealer at a casino 45 mins away that didn't have a poker room so was professional and casual and fed off the energy of the group. Towards the end we ask if he dealt not through the company since it was stupid expensive more priced for corporate parties. He said sure and continued to hire him for a couple years. We'd pay them $20/hr + $20/hr in tips normally.

Now that the game is getting going again we're trying to figure out how to safely find a new dealer. Any sites? Recommendations? Tips to how you found a dealer for your home game?

Thanks

Not sure if it matters, but in suburbs outside of Chicago.

 

[maloviz]

Not an answer to your question. But what stakes do (or did) you normally play when you paid $20/hr + $20/hr in tips to a dealer?
I can't imagine this would be very worth it for anything less than a $1/$1 game right?

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

I’ve trained many dealers over the years. It usually does not take long to learn. I’m not often in chicago, but I have family there. Maybe you can consider to find someone to train as a new hire.

 

[geimerman]

Not an answer to your question. But what stakes do (or did) you normally play when you paid $20/hr + $20/hr in tips to a dealer?

We're almost always a 1/2 NLH. Everyone would through in $20 and with a full table it covered dealer and pizza.

 

[geimerman]

I’ve trained many dealers over the years. It usually does not take long to learn. I’m not often in chicago, but I have family there. Maybe you can consider to find someone to train as a new hire.

When you trained them what all did that entail and what did you look for in folks who you'd train?

If you end up in Chicago, let me know.

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

I look for ones who understand the hand values, and have integrity before I hired them. Truly they need to know is how to read a basic “board” and determine hand values.

The rest can be taught. Its repetitive.

Chicago is fun. Send me a plane ticket or maybe zoom?

It starts with the correct way to shuffle. 2x ruffle, one box, then once more ruffle. Takes less than 10 seconds. Then vegas casino standard says to cut the deck FORWARD by placing cards on the table using only ONE HAND. Then Distribute cards without hitting anyone hands or objects, always check all bets, gather bets to center, announce number of players, spread the flop, then announce who the action is on.

Never say “Its on you (insert name here)” always announce “action is on (insert player name here)” so the table knows whose turn it is. The player will hear his name without being told directly.

On the turn and river don’t announce how many players unless there was a change. Also, don’t drag the chips into the middle (or main) pot until the card has been dealt on the board and knock the table before you deal these streets.

When doing split pots ALWAYS do the side pots FIRST AND WORK YOUR WAY BACK TO MAIN POT BY MUCKING LOSING HANDS.

Hope that helps.

Anyways ya fly me out to Chicago! I love training dealers!

 

[rjdev7]

Also, don’t drag the chips into the middle (or main) pot until the card has been dealt on the board and knock the table before you deal these streets.

I was with you until this. Why would you not bring the chips into the main pot before dealing the turn or river card? Wouldn’t you want to make change, pull in the chips, then deal the turn or river?

 

[Machine]

I was with you until this. Why would you not bring the chips into the main pot before dealing the turn or river card? Wouldn’t you want to make change, pull in the chips, then deal the turn or river?

So there are two things here, first thing is, once everyone has made an action, you 'pound' the table like a check motion as the dealer. I say pound because you make a fist and tap the table with the base of your hand. It lets players know you are 'turning' a card, anyone that hasn't made an action that you might have missed is queued to speak up or make action.

If it is short handed, or few players in the action, like 3 or less, its more efficient to get the card out and collect wagers, basically you don't want to slow the game down collecting wagers. If its a full game and multiple way action, you'd pull the money in before you 'turn' the card.

Spacemonkey does a good job of outlining the process, but he did leave off the most important aspect of dealing, pitch. You can teach it, but it takes the most practice. If someone is serious about the gig, they should spend time pitching cards at a table where they can pitch the cards under a matchbox at every seat. The next card should rip off the deck before the previous card lands.

This lazy bullshit where you see dealers dealing with one hand is straight bullshit and disrespects the game imo. I can do, it, hell I can flip a card across the room with a 1 handed pitch off the deck, but I wouldn't deal that way.

 

[rjdev7]

Ah ok this tracks with me, thanks!

 

[Joe Harris]

Cover gas from IA and I’ll deal

 

[SpaceMonkey420]

I was with you until this. Why would you not bring the chips into the main pot before dealing the turn or river card? Wouldn’t you want to make change, pull in the chips, then deal the turn or river?

In case there is a mistake you must leave the bets in front of the player for the eye in the sky. Standard casino protocol.