joseywales
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Viewing another player’s stack, then saying, “I’ll put you all in”, is apparently bad form. In the words of Johnny Carson, “I...did not know that.”
It is the responsibility of players to make their intentions clear: using non-standard terms or gestures is at player’s risk and may result in a ruling other than what the player intended
If I hear a player say "I'll put you all in" I will take that to mean "I'll bet whatever you have", and it is binding. .
I and others at our game have never had a problem with it. So long as the bet implies more than the minimum bet. Otherwise just put out the minimum. We play bounty so to "put you all in" is kind of a razz and challenge.Viewing another player’s stack, then saying, “I’ll put you all in”, is apparently bad form. In the words of Johnny Carson, “I...did not know that.”
this was brought up in another thread somewhere, it may or may not be poor etiquette, but the general consensus is that it is not binding and really means nothing.
When its said to me, i say nothing and wait for the real bet to be announced.
I don't see what there is to be upset over, though.
It sounds like the person who took issue with it wasn’t even in the hand? That’s pretty weenie.In the instance of my friend, someone at that table reacted harshly and said it was antagonistic. He did not mean it that way, but that was how it was received.
I have heard people claim this is not binding... but devils advocate here... if you’re playing a game, casino or home game, and a guy (who has you covered) thinks for a while, then announces “I’m going to put you all in”, throws out a few chips, and you say “I call” and you also throw in a stack of bigger chips, are people really thinking (or expecting) that the “ill put you all-in” guy isn’t really bound to the amount in your stack, should he lose the hand?
What your describing sounds more of an angle shoot, my response was when only a verbal "I'll put you all in" is made.
If someone says that and throw a couple chips in, I'd probably ask "so what is your bet?"
I never saw this as bad etiquette, just not proper betting procedure.
No, you either bet the amount your opponent has, or you go all in yourself. However, we all know what it means, which is "I don't know how much you have, but whatever it is, that's how much I'm betting". I would rather someone ask "how much do you have left?" and then proceed to bet that amount.
I'm curious how this trend started but I hear it aaaaaall the time. I imagine it stems from people who don't want to go all in due to more players behind them, but don't want to ask for a chip count either. Saying "I'll put you all in" is a bit of a power move. In which case, I can understand how it's bad etiquette. I just never considered it that way. At tonight's poker game I'm going to do it all night! :
to me "ill put u all in" is a tard of a statement. and only tards say it.
If YOU want to go all in then go all in.
if you want to get it out and show that you have a bigger dick... Woops... I meant stack. then by all means say "Ill put u all in" because it is a personal statement. It states I will do this to you. NOT TO THE REST OF THE PLAYERS - JUST YOU!
if you say i am all in. is not personal. You are not doing anything to me. Its very different.
go all in or don't go all in
don't be a dick about it.
Take it to the extreme, chip leader at table is under the gun and he says "I'll put everyone at the table all in". What's the bet?
I can assure you that if you ever hear me saying that at a home game, it is personal and intentional.However, they’re were done specifically to YOU. It’s not personal, nor intentional.
All-in.
I wouldn't even clarify it with him. I'd just motion to the next player and say "Bob (or whatever his name is) is all in, action is on you"
I've never seen it done in an arrogant manner - always inexperienced players just trying to make a bet.
So, not trying to be argumentative, just truly curious... what is the "experienced" way to go about this?
Ask the dealer for him to count the opposing players stack?
Wait to hear a total, say, 8,479?
Then say, "OK - my bet is eight thousand four hundred seventy nine"?
This seems onerous to me. But again, if it's the proper/experienced way to do things, I'd really like to know.