For Sale Paulson & BJ Garage sale (1 Viewer)

Hi guys,

Here are some stuff for a garage sale :

IMPORTANT :
- All the price shown not include shipping costs.
- If several of the lots find American buyers, It is possible to operate a common shipment, this if someone proposes for the reship in USA.
- Preferring a complet sale of a lot, I will wait before split them.
- Feel free to ask me for shipping costs.

300 x PCA hotstamps quarters – $500 (Paypal F&F) + shipping - SOLD

200 x AS $2 – $380 (Paypal F&F) + shipping - SOLD

110 x World Resorts Catskills $1 – $80 (Paypal F&f) + shipping - SOLD

20 x Paulson Classic $1000 – $40 (Paypal F&F) + shipping - SOLD

375 x Yakama Legends $5 – $200 (Paypal F&F) + shipping - SOLD

100 x Borgata $1 – $90 (Paypal F&f) + shipping - SOLD

100 x Condado Plaza $100 – $80 (Paypal F&F) + Shipping - Still available

40 x Condado Plaza $20 – $30 (Paypal F&F) + Shipping - SOLD

60 x Ponderay Casino $5 – $40 (Paypal F&f) + Shipping - Still available

 

[Himewad]

Dibs can go either way IMO but where you really lost me was saying that the fairest method of dealing on here is silent/private auctions. Sure it’s “fair” to the seller but absolutely no one else and can be easily manipulated and abused.

If you’re a buyer you know what you’re willing to pay. That’s your final offer, and it sets the market price. Why does that lose you?

 

[Himewad]

Didn’t intend to hijack this thread. I apologize. I’m done.

 

[DMack]

At least there are a few people still around that don't try to pry and gouge every last cent from others on here.

 

[FordPickup92]

Not reading the fine print on a purchase of hundreds or thousands of dollars isn’t the sellers problem, though. It shouldn’t be a race. If the seller posts an item for sale, and finds out they have multiple people who want to buy it, they should be able to contact those potential buyers for additional bids. Capitalism, baby.

Why would anyone make additional bids on an fixed price sale ad? I'd tell the seller to fuck off if they asked me for a higher bid on a fixed price item that someone else was interested in. That's just making chip inflation worse

 

[horseshoez]

Thanks @horseshoez but I just sold my deuces. These were a heckuva deal though.

WTF, sold...why?

 

[ReallyGoodUsername]

If you’re a buyer you know what you’re willing to pay. That’s your final offer, and it sets the market price. Why does that lose you?

Other members can call backup dibs if someone has already called dibs, the seller hasn't lost out on any other potential sales, so at the absolute worst the seller is inconvenienced with the fact they thought they had a sale but no longer do.

 

[ReallyGoodUsername]

Thread jack over. Now back to these gorgeous chips for sale (per OP as of 11/25 9:00PM):

375 x Yakama Legends $5

100 x Borgata $1

60 x Ponderay Casino $5

 

[toothpic]

Those PCA fracs are gorgeous! Never thought about yellow quarters

 

[Saoliver]

Those PCA fracs are gorgeous! Never thought about yellow quarters

Now you will dream about yellow quarters.

 

[toothpic]

Now you will dream about yellow quarters.

That means I need another cash set...

 

[FordPickup92]

That means I need another cash set...

What a great perspective!

 

[toothpic]

What a great perspective!

This is an expensive dream, but I like it

 

[hdgeno]

I don’t have a dog in the fight, but this right here is why dibs are a load of BS. If you call dibs, you just bought it. If you are allowed to release dibs, why should calling dibs be honored at all?

I hate the trend of dibs that's taken over the classifieds the last few years, and it bugs me every single time I see someone releasing dibs three posts after calling "dibs".

Maybe I'm just old and cranky, don't care, dibs are for second graders

 

[toothpic]

What’s the proper usage of dibs? I only call dibs when want less than the entire listing and usually depending on split pricing if it isn’t already listed.

 

[lubcik]

I will take 100 x Borgata $1 – $90

 

[lubcik]

Sorry, I release my Dibs for 375 x Yakama Legends $5

 

[Northern Paladin]

I would have liked to follow the thread during the all night (Actually 5:58 AM in Switzerland) only I fell asleep miserably after the bulk of the lots were sold. Shame on me!

DMack, who buys me a large amount of the total chips wrote me in MP for the borgatas (I was sleeping), before yone and lubcik manifest themselves in the thread. So I’m waiting on DMack to confirm his choice and if he does not take them, I’ll propose them to yone, then to lubcik. I keep you informed!

 

[Northern Paladin]

I would have liked to follow the thread during the all night (Actually 5:26 AM in Switzerland) only I fell asleep miserably after the bulk of the lots were sold. Shame on me!

DMack, who buys me a large amount of the total chips wrote me in MP for the borgatas (I was sleeping), before yone and lubcik manifest themselves in the thread. So I’m waiting on DMack to confirm his choice and if he does not take them, I’ll propose them to yone, then to lubcik.

 

[Northern Paladin]

DMack also takes the $1 borgatas. Sorry to yone and lubcik who were interested in these.

General thread updated!

 

[BGinGA]

I see this “release dibs” all the time. I just think you either want to buy or you don’t. I don’t get it and I think it’s unfair to the seller.

I hate the trend of dibs that's taken over the classifieds the last few years, and it bugs me every single time I see someone releasing dibs three posts after calling "dibs".

I agree, it is breaking a verbal contract (offer/acceptance) and is utter bullshit -- a dibs call can cause prospective buyers to leave the thread and never return thinking the item is sold, leaving the seller with no buyer that he otherwise would have if a 'dibs' and subsequent 'release dibs' had not been called. It essentially says that your word as a chipper cannot be trusted. And in this business/hobby, trust is everything.

However, you can't MAKE somebody buy your stuff (short of legal action), so my personal policy on the matter is this: any person who backs out on their promise-to-buy is blacklisted and no longer considered for any future sales. So do it at your own risk -- if I see you do it, I won't ever sell to you, period, and chances are my friends and fellow chippers won't, either. If I can't trust you, I don't want to deal with you.

I also do not honor dibs made on behalf of other people (ie, "dibs for @jack") -- if you want your buddy to get the item, then buy it yourself and figure out the details with him/her later.

However, I dislike dibs sales in general, since it is one of the least fair ways to sell chips. I much prefer to state a selling price for a set period of time, and afterwards award the item to a randomly selected buyer from those interested (if more than one)..... thus giving everybody a fair shot, and not dependent on internet connection speed or lack of a non-PCF social life. It also makes the entire 'dibs' fiasco completely irrelevant, as everybody who is interested gets a chance.

 

[lubcik]

I edited my post originally I posted depending on Shipping charges which were not posted
I send PM to seller. He agreed

 

[Changster]

I agree, it is breaking a verbal contract (offer/acceptance) and is utter bullshit -- a dibs call can cause prospective buyers to leave the thread and never return thinking the item is sold, leaving the seller with no buyer that he otherwise would have if a 'dibs' and subsequent 'release dibs' had not been called. It essentially says that your word as a chipper cannot be trusted. And in this business/hobby, trust is everything.

However, you can't MAKE somebody buy your stuff (short of legal action), so my personal policy on the matter is this: any person who backs out on their promise-to-buy is blacklisted and no longer considered for any future sales. So do it at your own risk -- if I see you do it, I won't ever sell to you, period, and chances are my friends and fellow chippers won't, either. If I can't trust you, I don't want to deal with you.

I also do not honor dibs made on behalf of other people (ie, "dibs for @jack") -- if you want your buddy to get the item, then buy it yourself and figure out the details with him/her later.

However, I dislike dibs sales in general, since it is one of the least fair ways to sell chips. I much prefer to state a selling price for a set period of time, and afterwards award the item to a randomly selected buyer from those interested (if more than one)..... thus giving everybody a fair shot, and not dependent on internet connection speed or lack of a non-PCF social life. It also makes the entire 'dibs' fiasco completely irrelevant, as everybody who is interested gets a chance.

Oh dang, I've always thought dibs were the norm around here. Maybe it's because I joined only earlier this year... my impression is it's always been around.

 

[Marius L]

Great pricing here!

 

[ReallyGoodUsername]

Oh dang, I've always thought dibs were the norm around here. Maybe it's because I joined only earlier this year... my impression is it's always been around.

Same and I’m sure for many others. Now we know it’s a third rail of a subject at least

 

[ReallyGoodUsername]

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[MarquetteMonkey]

I agree, it is breaking a verbal contract (offer/acceptance) and is utter bullshit -- a dibs call can cause prospective buyers to leave the thread and never return thinking the item is sold, leaving the seller with no buyer that he otherwise would have if a 'dibs' and subsequent 'release dibs' had not been called. It essentially says that your word as a chipper cannot be trusted. And in this business/hobby, trust is everything.

However, you can't MAKE somebody buy your stuff (short of legal action), so my personal policy on the matter is this: any person who backs out on their promise-to-buy is blacklisted and no longer considered for any future sales. So do it at your own risk -- if I see you do it, I won't ever sell to you, period, and chances are my friends and fellow chippers won't, either. If I can't trust you, I don't want to deal with you.

I also do not honor dibs made on behalf of other people (ie, "dibs for @jack") -- if you want your buddy to get the item, then buy it yourself and figure out the details with him/her later.

However, I dislike dibs sales in general, since it is one of the least fair ways to sell chips. I much prefer to state a selling price for a set period of time, and afterwards award the item to a randomly selected buyer from those interested (if more than one)..... thus giving everybody a fair shot, and not dependent on internet connection speed or lack of a non-PCF social life. It also makes the entire 'dibs' fiasco completely irrelevant, as everybody who is interested gets a chance.

Well I certainly picked the wrong time to release dibs for the first time lol.

That said, I agree with most of what was said here. The biggest of which is potentially turning away buyers that think the item is sold.

In this instance the seller was forthright enough to mention a detail (relatively minor) that was not in the original post before I bought. I’d like to think that I have generated some goodwill via other transactions and interactions in my time on PCF, so hopefully I am not in for a broad based blacklist.

Like I said I agree with much of these comments about dibs and I have certainly learned some things as well.

Not the least of which is that @Northern Paladin has fantastic prices and has been great to communicate with! Sorry I was part of the tread derail, let’s get the rest of these chips sold if they haven’t already!

 

[markleteenie]

@FordPickup92 nice one! Those PCA hot stamps are great! I love the suits mold and yes yellow is the best quarter color!

Here's a non-inflammatory question: Is the PCA suits mold 25c hot stamp Canary Yellow or Yellow?

 

[BGinGA]

Is the PCA suits mold 25c hot stamp Canary Yellow or Yellow?

Canary Yellow. It's the brightest of the three Paulson yellows (although barely distinguishable from Yellow). Also used for the Grand Cardroom suits mold hot-stamped set (typically T1000, but some T5000s were made).

 

[shorticus]

Not reading the fine print on a purchase of hundreds or thousands of dollars isn’t the sellers problem, though. It shouldn’t be a race. If the seller posts an item for sale, and finds out they have multiple people who want to buy it, they should be able to contact those potential buyers for additional bids. Capitalism, baby.

I'd say that if you are just looking to sell to the highest bidder, then create an auction. I'm all for people creating their own price, but if you set your price and you have a taker, let it go. You've received the price that you asked.

 

[gkitt80]

I'd say that if you are just looking to sell to the highest bidder, then create an auction. I'm all for people creating their own price, but if you set your price and you have a taker, let it go. You've received the price that you asked.

This.

If you want an auction, Mark the sale as an auction and conduct it in the open as such, or alternatively sell it on eBay. If a seller pulled this move on me, I’d put them on my do-not-do-business-with-list.

I much prefer to state a selling price for a set period of time, and afterwards award the item to a randomly selected buyer from those interested (if more than one)..... thus giving everybody a fair shot, and not dependent on internet connection speed or lack of a non-PCF social life. It also makes the entire 'dibs' fiasco completely irrelevant, as everybody who is interested gets a chance.

I love this idea