Opinions on my 1st poker set idea (1 Viewer)

[bushmonkey90]

Evening folks

So I’m recently new to poker, I’m looking into a proper set. I’ve decided after seeing some chips I like (tiki kings brpropoker), I’m going to grab some of those at the end of the month

The catch is however, I live in the UK so import fees and shipping are pretty costly so I only really have 1 shot to get a set right. I’m looking for a set of all the chip designs as a collection AND a useable poker set in general.

My idea so far is this

25c/20p x 100
1 x 100
5 x 100
25 x 100
100 x 50
500 x 25
1000 x 25

Usually play with a small group, max probs be 5 for fun games, but would like to eventually play cash games at lower amounts at some point

I really like the design of the chips so I really do want all 7 chip types

I’d consider a set over 500 if it would make sense, but I’m also not the richest guy lol

Any feedback would be great

Cheers folks

 

[MeridianFC]

There are several threads by and for UK based folks. I definitely check them out to get a lay of the land and may be some hints on things that would help you.

Here's just one:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/good-quality-poker-chips-in-the-uk.127102/

 

[bushmonkey90]

There are several threads by and for UK based folks. I definitely check them out to get a lay of the land and may be some hints on things that would help you.

Here's just one:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/good-quality-poker-chips-in-the-uk.127102/

Thanks mate, I’ll check it out

But while you’re here, what’s your opinion on the chip numbers in considering??

 

[MeridianFC]

Thanks mate, I’ll check it out

But while you’re here, what’s your opinion on the chip numbers in considering??

You will find a lot of opinions on set breakdowns here (I'd guess it's the #1 or #2 question from newcomers), so do some digging into that subject.

Much depends on the games (Hold 'Em? Omaha? Stud? Hi/Lo? Mixed?), stakes (.05/.10p? .25p/.50p? £1/£2? - £10 buyin? £100? Rebuys?) and crowd (you said 5 but might it grow - hint it should to have it sustain)

My take, and this you'll hear a lot of folks say, is center your set on what will be your workhorse chip. If you're playing .10p/.20p blind Hold 'Em .50p is probably that. Anything higher maybe £1. If for some reason you use American denominations that could shift. Tournaments are of course a different beast.

Most folks here say do something like

100 X base chip (say .20)
200 X workorse (say .50)
150 X next logical chip (say £1)
50 X "bank" chip (say £5 or do 25 X £5 25 X £20)

So more chips of fewer denominations.

Standard American denominations are much more common but there are sets, BR Pro is really good with this, can be semi customized.

Get samples is the frequent suggestion here but that might be more difficult for you but maybe you'll be able to sort something out with players/chippers on your patch.

The two pieces of advice that I would give are:

1. Take your time. Really read through the wealth of information here. Buy once, cry once.

2. If you have the means get more chips than you need right now. It costs you more and takes you longer to get most chips so set yourself up for growth of your game and any loss or damage over time. If you're looking at a 500 piece set thing about swinging a 600.

 

[allforcharity]

Your breakdown is almost unusable as either a cash set or a tournament set. If you are on a strict budget, then you will need to properly define your needs for both.

I recommend perusing any of the breakdown discussions in the Cash and Tournament thread.

 

[Eriks]

If you need fracs, you don’t need 500/1ks and probably not 100s either. Assuming you play 25p/25p or 25p/50p, and on a tight budget I’d go something like:

£0.25 x 100
£1 x 200
£5 x 200
£25 x 80-100
(£100 x 20)

Total bank £3725 or £5025

 

[bushmonkey90]

You will find a lot of opinions on set breakdowns here (I'd guess it's the #1 or #2 question from newcomers), so do some digging into that subject.

Much depends on the games (Hold 'Em? Omaha? Stud? Hi/Lo? Mixed?), stakes (.05/.10p? .25p/.50p? £1/£2? - £10 buyin? £100? Rebuys?) and crowd (you said 5 but might it grow - hint it should to have it sustain)

My take, and this you'll hear a lot of folks say, is center your set on what will be your workhorse chip. If you're playing .10p/.20p blind Hold 'Em .50p is probably that. Anything higher maybe £1. If for some reason you use American denominations that could shift. Tournaments are of course a different beast.

Most folks here say do something like

100 X base chip (say .20)
200 X workorse (say .50)
150 X next logical chip (say £1)
50 X "bank" chip (say £5 or do 25 X £5 25 X £20)

So more chips of fewer denominations.

Standard American denominations are much more common but there are sets, BR Pro is really good with this, can be semi customized.

Get samples is the frequent suggestion here but that might be more difficult for you but maybe you'll be able to sort something out with players/chippers on your patch.

The two pieces of advice that I would give are:

1. Take your time. Really read through the wealth of information here. Buy once, cry once.

2. If you have the means get more chips than you need right now. It costs you more and takes you longer to get most chips so set yourself up for growth of your game and any loss or damage over time. If you're looking at a 500 piece set thing about swinging a 600.

Thanks

I’ve had some time to read some of of stuff on here. And the truth is, I don’t know what chips I need. However the buy once cry once is something that I might have to do. 1000chip set might be the way I guess

Just a shame that there’s no chips like the tiki kings over here (there is one place here that sells them but for double the price and still works out cheaper to import them). So I’m pretty adamant about getting the tiki kings from USA

Not sure about what the “workhorse” chip would be though. I assume 20p

If you need fracs, you don’t need 500/1ks and probably not 100s either. Assuming you play 25p/25p or 25p/50p, and on a tight budget I’d go something like:

£0.25 x 100
£1 x 200
£5 x 200
£25 x 80-100
(£100 x 20)

Total bank £3725 or £5025

Well, the main reason for the higher amounts is for some fun none cash games and for collection in general

So I think, after reading this post and some other posts, I need to just go all in on a 1000 chip set

Your breakdown is almost unusable as either a cash set or a tournament set. If you are on a strict budget, then you will need to properly define your needs for both.

I recommend perusing any of the breakdown discussions in the Cash and Tournament thread.

I see. I’ll have a proper look about. I don’t know why it’s not usable other than the small quantity of chip (I assumed we could just change for other chips if needed during the game)

 

[Nymor]

I wasn't quite sure what I needed for my 8max games so went for 800 custom Tinas with 7 denoms and this breakdown

5 x 100
25 x 160
100 x 180
500 x 100
1000 x 160
5000 x 60
25000 x 40

A couple of hundred more chips than I need but with those I can run a whole variety of different tournie structures* and our more frequent circus cash games - either 5/10p or 5/10/25p with chip values in pennies. Haven't needed to use the 5k or 25k (£50, £250) chips in anger yet but the option is there should I win the lottery in the near future. Our 5/10/25p game can still have £500-800 on the table during the splashier games though.

* though I favour a deepstack structure I have where effective starting stacks are 100k and where I can use all denoms even if the 5s are only as extra "bullet" tokens

 

[springbox]

For a cash game it's very rare you'll need more than 3 or 4 denominations. My 5c/10c game with $10~$20 buy-ins barely touches the $5s, if at all, and never the $20s. For a tournament it's more like 4 or 5 denominations. If you must have all 7 denominations you're not going to squeeze them into a 500 chip set in a way that's efficient, some of the denominations will go unused.

People here are generally against mixing cash and tournament sets, but for low stakes and limited budget I think it can make sense. Have you considered a set like

25 x 100
100 x 150
500 x 75
1000 x 100
5000 x 50
25000 x 25

Works fine for tournaments for up to 8ish people. Plays as a .25/.25 cash set if you treat chips as 1/100 face value in £. Still gets you a 6-chip spread and the big numbers (frankly the 25k here are still not needed). You could cut 25 of the 500s and add them another denom, since the £10/1000 will cover for fewer £5/500 in both tournament and cash. If £25 starting stack is too much for your cash game, you could start the set at 5 instead and cut the 5k and 25k.

Tournament (8-max)
25/100/500/1000 - 12/12/5/6 for 10k starting stack

Cash
(6-max) .25/1.00/5.00 - 16/16/1 for a £25 starting stack
(8-max) .25/1.00/5.00 - 12/17/1 for a £25 starting stack

 

[bushmonkey90]

I wasn't quite sure what I needed for my 8max games so went for 800 custom Tinas with 7 denoms and this breakdown

5 x 100
25 x 160
100 x 180
500 x 100
1000 x 160
5000 x 60
25000 x 40

A couple of hundred more chips than I need but with those I can run a whole variety of different tournie structures* and our more frequent circus cash games - either 5/10p or 5/10/25p with chip values in pennies. Haven't needed to use the 5k or 25k (£50, £250) chips in anger yet but the option is there should I win the lottery in the near future. Our 5/10/25p game can still have £500-800 on the table during the splashier games though.

* though I favour a deepstack structure I have where effective starting stacks are 100k and where I can use all denoms even if the 5s are only as extra "bullet" tokens

Nice, it’s actually really helpful to see what a breakdown like that looks like, I was just picturing it in my head. I think (like you) I’m going to buy way more chips than needed. Worst case I do have another poker set with 4 colours (none numbered) that I could splash in for cash games At lower end values

 

[bushmonkey90]

For a cash game it's very rare you'll need more than 3 or 4 denominations. My 5c/10c game with $10~$20 buy-ins barely touches the $5s, if at all, and never the $20s. For a tournament it's more like 4 or 5 denominations. If you must have all 7 denominations you're not going to squeeze them into a 500 chip set in a way that's efficient, some of the denominations will go unused.

People here are generally against mixing cash and tournament sets, but for low stakes and limited budget I think it can make sense. Have you considered a set like

25 x 100
100 x 150
500 x 75
1000 x 100
5000 x 50
25000 x 25

Works fine for tournaments for up to 8ish people. Plays as a .25/.25 cash set if you treat chips as 1/100 face value in £. Still gets you a 6-chip spread and the big numbers (frankly the 25k here are still not needed). You could cut 25 of the 500s and add them another denom, since the £10/1000 will cover for fewer £5/500 in both tournament and cash. If £25 starting stack is too much for your cash game, you could start the set at 5 instead and cut the 5k and 25k.

Tournament (8-max)
25/100/500/1000 - 12/12/5/6 for 10k starting stack

Cash
(6-max) .25/1.00/5.00 - 16/16/1 for a £25 starting stack
(8-max) .25/1.00/5.00 - 12/17/1 for a £25 starting stack

Genius idea, that’s something I never thought of, could actually be a laugh too (I raise 5000 pence!!) lol

Thing is now though, BRPro poker have actually designed me the tiki king chips with a £ symbol and the 25c as a 20p. So could be confusing

 

[bushmonkey90]

Right, after some research and searching this forum I’ve got a new list of chips to hopefully have a set that will work

20p/25c x 250
1 x 200
5 x 200
25 x 150
100 x 100
500 x 50
1000 x 50

I’m not sure if I should make the 1 and 20 both at 225 quantity. But I think this would work. Looking for another round of opinions??

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

250 is too many of the smallest denomination. I have 200 of them and I like that but its almost overkill even for us. I wouldn't bother getting more than a barrel per person (200). Especially saying you only have 5 players!

 

[bushmonkey90]

250 is too many of the smallest denomination. I have 200 of them and I like that but its almost overkill even for us. I wouldn't bother getting more than a barrel per person (200). Especially saying you only have 5 players!

Appreciate the feedback. Where would you shift the 50 chips too?? I’m buying 1000 chips as there’s a price reduction at that many

 

[ekricket]

20p/25c x 250
1 x 200
5 x 200
25 x 150
100 x 100
500 x 50
1000 x 50

Change this to

20p/25c x 100
1 x 200
5 x 200
25 x 125
100 x 150
500 x 75
1000 x 100
5000 x 50

And you can cover cash games, tournament, and collection goals.

 

[bushmonkey90]

Change this to

20p/25c x 100
1 x 200
5 x 200
25 x 125
100 x 150
500 x 75
1000 x 100
5000 x 50

And you can cover cash games, tournament, and collection goals.

That’s a great idea. However, tiki kings only have 7 denominations available :/

Unless they can design a fully custom chip.

 

[bushmonkey90]

Right, I’ve emailed brpropoker to see if they can do anything about another tiki king style chip. I really do like that breakdown you just put forward. I just assumed I needed a lot of the lower denominations after reading through this forum

Hopefully they have another design they can come up with for another chip for the 5k. Yellow could work

 

[ekricket]

That’s a great idea. However, tiki kings only have 7 denominations available :/

Unless they can design a fully custom chip.

Whatever you are using for the quarter do semi custom and have the 5000 printed in 40 of them. You will never use the .25 and the 5000 in the same game id think.

 

[bushmonkey90]

Whatever you are using for the quarter do semi custom and have the 5000 printed in 40 of them. You will never use the .25 and the 5000 in the same game id think.

Very true. I might end up doing it this way. I’ll wait and see what they say about a new chip design 1st, if no luck then either this or I guess I could grab some from the tiki mask set for the 5k chips

 

[bushmonkey90]

Whatever you are using for the quarter do semi custom and have the 5000 printed in 40 of them. You will never use the .25 and the 5000 in the same game id think.

Thanks a lot for your advice, I went ahead of and used your denominations quantities. Appreciate it

 

[maxim_666666]

How do they feel? I've always disliked ceramic chips because they are too slippery and rattle like cheap chips, and only once have I come across one with a pleasant texture and sound.

 

[bushmonkey90]

How do they feel? I've always disliked ceramic chips because they are too slippery and rattle like cheap chips, and only once have I come across one with a pleasant texture and sound.

Feel nice, but this is the only nice set I’ve ever had so I can’t compare it to any other chips you may know

The edges are glossy and the faces have a matte texture to them. They definitely don’t slide around when they’re stacked, they lay perfectly on each other so no “rocking”. No spinning either

Probably not the answer you was looking for lol, if you was in England I’d post you the extra one they sent that doesn’t fit in the case so you could see for yourself