Tourney Odd number starting stack, how bad is it? (1 Viewer)

[grantc54]

Planning my year end tournament (Aug 2019 for anyone in Vancouner area) and am struggling with starting stack breakdown.

I am working on different attendance numbers and am having issues with the starting stack for 35 people and ~T3M starting stack.

I like the following breakdown based on chips available but it adds to T3,060,000

T1k x 10
T5k x 10
T25k x 8
T100k x 8
T500k x 4

Can I do that? Or should I stick with T3M

T1k x 10
T5k x 8
T25k x 6
T100k x 8
T500k x 4

Any input appreciated.

Thanks
Grant

 

[Josh Kifer]

Depends on what your starting blinds are. But I don't see where 60k would change much with that large of a starting stack.

 

[Frank]

If doing rebuys, 3.06M in chips would be impractical, wouldn't it? Although assuming it's like last year where the buy-in includes two starting stacks and all chips will hit the felt eventually, I don't see a reason why you couldn't do 3.06M for the first buy-in and 3M for the next one if needed based on your chip set. I'd be on board with that since I seem to recall feeling like there could have been more T25ks on the table with only 6 per player last year.

 

[Beakertwang]

As stated above, 60K wouldn't affect the game.

But, how about 10/13/9/7/2?

Edit: I didn't even consider rebuys.

 

[grantc54]

As stated above, 60K wouldn't affect the game.

But, how about 10/13/9/7/2?

Edit: I didn't even consider rebuys.

Rebuys would definitely only be T3M as I would use the T1M chips (there is 1 per person, it becomes an addon if unused).

Funny enough 10/13/9/7/4 is my breakdown for 30 players.

At 35 players I don't have enough T5K and T25K to do that breakdown.

Thanks
Grant

 

[grantc54]

Depends on what your starting blinds are. But I don't see where 60k would change much with that large of a starting stack.

Yeah, it wont change anything in regards to ending time. Wasnt sure if it would tilt anyone. With my group I dont think anyone would care. Likely overthinking it.

Thanks
Grant

 

[Josh Kifer]

Yeah, it wont change anything in regards to ending time. Wasnt sure if it would tilt anyone. With my group I dont think anyone would care. Likely overthinking it.

Thanks
Grant

Totally overthinking. I do 50-60 games a year and always adjust stack sizes and blinds each game to make the endgame always the same time. Never a soul cared why a stack was that, they just wanna know what they have to work with.

 

[DeeVee8]

I do T16k's just because its 10x100, 10x500 and 10x1000. Makes chip stacks easy.

 

[toynoob]

OCD tilt camp

 

[abby99]

As long as all the stacks have the same value in T$ (not necessarily the same number of chips), it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Poker Zombie]

I prefer the even $3M, just because it looks intentional. I always try to put on the closest thing I can to a professional tournament, and even numbers give that air, where $3.06M looks like you swept up as many chips as you could.

That said, I would have no issue with the odd starting amount. Unlike @abby99 , I feel that each starting stack should have the same breakdown of chips though, because there is a very real psychological effect if one player has more chips than an opponent, even if the value is the same.

 

[grantc54]

I prefer the even $3M, just because it looks intentional. I always try to put on the closest thing I can to a professional tournament, and even numbers give thay air, where $3.06M looks like you swept up as many chips as you could.

That said, I would have no issue with the odd starting amount. Unlike @abby99 , I feel that each starting stack should have the same breakdown of chips though, because there is a very real psychological effect if one player has more chips than an opponent, even if the value is the same.

I think I am where you are at. It is funny but i have noticed the number of chips in the starting stack can make a big difference in how some people play. The more physical chips, the looser the play.

I always try to get as many of my chips out as possible one i have set the starting stack, but all stacks are the same with enough chips for rebuys and chip ups.

I've been able to poach a bunch of the smokers from @T_Chan 's game, som maybe I'll get 2 tables again sometime soon.

Grant

Thanks
Grant

 

[BGinGA]

I feel that each starting stack should have the same breakdown of chips though, because there is a very real psychological effect if one player has more chips than an opponent, even if the value is the same.

While I agree with this in principle, I think in reality it depends on how disparate the stacks actually are. If within a few chips in total chip count (while maintaining equal value), I see no problems whatsoever.

Very little (if any) psychological difference between 8/8/4/7 and 8/8/6/6, or 12/12/5/6, 12/12/7/5, and 12/12/3/7, for example.

 

[Poker Zombie]

The only issue, and I agree it would be a minor issue with a 8/8/4/7 stack and a 8/8/6/6 stack would be the question of "why does so and so have more 500s"? It's quickly resolved by counting amounts, but it goes back to my first point...

I always try to put on the closest thing I can to a professional tournament

Even numbers do that better than a hodge-podge way of getting equal starting stacks.

That said, I do love chips, and if you were to host a tournament with hard to acquire chips (say... tournament set of Olivia's) I would be more than understanding.

 

[APatHand]

Speaking of odd sizes in tournaments, I've played in a limit mixed game (stud, holdem and omaha/8) tournament that has a level with 35/70 blinds. The players love it, the (professional) dealers hate it.
I guess the players are better at math.