Cash Game Limit Poker Breakdown (1 Viewer)

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Not trolling, just proving to myself that I'm not crazy.
 
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Not trolling, just proving to myself that I'm not crazy.

I know and you are not listening. That is a poker strategy book. It is discussing a completely different thing. The BLINDS, which is strategy relevant but not chip relevant. No poker book is going to discuss the chip betting structure because it is not strategy relevant.

The second line from the bottom says it all "two and three chip BLIND structure".

There is no such thing as a two and three chip betting structure. Regardless of if you are spreading $1/3 blinds or $2/3 blinds in a $3/6 limit game, if you are using $1 chips as the workhorse chip then you have a 3/6 chip betting structure. You can spread $3/6 with $3 chips as the workhorse but then you have a 1/2 chip betting structure and you will still have the choice of having a single $3 blind or putting some $1 chips in play as well for $1/3 or $2/3 blinds. It doesn't change the strategy but it changes the chips you need.

I haven't disagreed with you. I have that book too. But I've tried to explain three times now the betting limit structure determines the chips you need not the blind structure.

Finally huge piles of chips generates action. Spreading a game with a 1 chip/2 chip betting structure will generate less action because the pots visually look smaller than a 2/4 chip structure. Ie a $5/10 limit game has more action using pink $2.50 chips, than using $5 chips. A $2/4 limit game runs better with $1 chips than $2 chips and so on. In fact I prefer a 3/6 chip or even a 4/8 chip structure, though this requires significantly more chips to run well.
 
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Moose I think y’all are on different pages. He’s saying a 3 chip 6 chip will generate more action than 2/4 or 4/8 because of the small blind dynamics.

I think it’s a response to your comment about lots of chips generating action, not the general thread.
 
Hey @CraigT78 ,

Before we got into a massive argument this thread was about you.

Did you ever get the chips?

I know you mentioned GOCC, but I thought I read they went incommunicado.

Looks like you could get in on the @ABC Gifts and Awards semi custom chipco blank deal this week
Sure did, and they are awesome. Got them from ABC on the chipco blank and you can't tell them apart from the GOCC chips other than a slightly more textured face - although that could be the difference in 3 years of wear.

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There is a Limit Omaha High-Only game that runs 24/7/365 at Boulder Station in LV. It is 4-8 with a half kill. They use 1$ chips. At any time, there are 2000 chips on the table.

I love chips, but is is freakin annoying to wait for people to count out 12 or 24 chips for a bet/raise. Plus they are too busy stacking the last pot to look at their cards....another delay...... Every pot is 60-120$ and there are 200$ pots once-twice an hour. AND there are chops from straights often enough that the dealer now has to stack and split the pot...... Plus the table real estate is used up as the table has a racetrack, limiting your chip sprawl to the X direction (because you can't have your chips on the cloth. This means chips get moved towards your neighbors. Plus people are allowed to put RACKS on the table to handle all the freakin' chips they win.

I asked why the game isn't run with 85% 4$ chips and a few 2$ chips for blinds, Kills, etc. and the staff have the same 'action decrease' argument moose postulated. I play in this game every Vegas visit. Perhaps they tried the 2 or 4 dollar chip thing. But, I see no record on the internet of any chips issued by Boulder in EITHER denomination, so, I am calling BS. (and I don't mean Boulder Station)


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I don't know of any player that says "I'd rather play on a table with less room on it."

That is my view. I prefer my chips Black, not blue and white.... :)
 
I love chips, but is is freakin annoying to wait for people to count out 12 or 24 chips for a bet/raise. Plus they are too busy stacking the last pot to look at their cards....another delay......


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I don't know of any player that says "I'd rather play on a table with less room on it."

That is my view. .... :)

This must be a late poker boom phenomenon started at small casinos to attract people who learned poker from watching it on TV (seeing final tourney tables with massive amounts of chips). I played limit in the early 2000s in AC and never once witnessed a game played all those chips. It sounds retarded to me for just the reason you mention. I would never want sit at a table waiting for people to count out chips to make or call a bet. Then wait for the winner to stack a hundred + chip pot.
Also, I don’t buy the “it drives action” stuff. If so then why not uses single denominations and racks of chips for every game in the casino? I have a feeling this started because people were asking for a bunch of chips because it looked like a lot of money and therefore “cool”. For me “efficient” poker includes making bets with the least amount of chips possible..and yes I like nice chips too.
 
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