KY Poker Rooms Time/Membership v Rake (1 Viewer)

[theedegen]

Hey All!

I've never played in a Time Structure/Membership Structure format before, I've only been in traditional rake formats when I lived in Ohio.

I was thinking about making a trip to KY and checking out some of their card rooms where it appears you purchase a membership and then there is an additional hourly fee for playing, but no normal table rake.

What is a good/reasonable fee when compared to areas like TX that have a similar structure??

And how would it compared to say a 10%, $5 cap at 1-2 like I used to play?

Thank you for your time and apologies for my ignorance. Just trying to choose the best one to play at. Seems like there's a few options.

 

[JustinInMN]

And how would it compared to say a 10%, $5 cap at 1-2 like I used to play?

So a game like this, I am assuming is going to take something like $14-17 per player per hour

(I would assume something like 80% of hands hit max rake in this structure, so guess an average rake is something like $4.50 per hand over maybe 25-30 hands an hour.)

I have played in timed games that range between $14-20 hr. (Usually collected on the half-hour.)

I have never played in a membership game, but I would assume with these points of comparison, you could probably figure out how such a structure compares.

Do you have figures for the clubs at which you are looking?

 

[theedegen]

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

I've looked at the 3 closest to me and this is all I could find onle:

1. The one I found the most information on is called The Barrel Social. Looks like seat rental is $14 an hour, and the memberships are $10 a day. $14 an hour feels kind of steep to me, but maybe I'm just ignorant to how much rake I'd normally pay.

2. The Royal Social club, the most recent thing I can find is $12 an hour from a reddit post in 2022. And no membership pricing listed on their website. Wouldn't shock me if it's gone up since then.

3. The Diamond Social Club, I can't find any listed hourly fee, just the $5 daily fee. But I am sure they are not only charging people $5 a day. Attached a picture of all I could find, maybe someone on here has played and has some more info on them.

 

[grahamplayscards]

Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

I've looked at the 3 closest to me and this is all I could find onle:

1. The one I found the most information on is called The Barrel Social. Looks like seat rental is $14 an hour, and the memberships are $10 a day. $14 an hour feels kind of steep to me, but maybe I'm just ignorant to how much rake I'd normally pay.

2. The Royal Social club, the most recent thing I can find is $12 an hour from a reddit post in 2022. And no membership pricing listed on their website. Wouldn't shock me if it's gone up since then.

3. The Diamond Social Club, I can't find any listed hourly fee, just the $5 daily fee. But I am sure they are not only charging people $5 a day. Attached a picture of all I could find, maybe someone on here has played and has some more info on them.View attachment 1630286

Time rake in a 1/3 game is a win win for the house and the players. Rake affects lower stakes games more when pots are below the cap, automatically lose 10% to the house (think about how many 1/3 hands are limped pots, stay below $100 to the river vs a 2/5 or 5/10 game where the cap has almost always been reached preflop)

I can also confirm the barrel is an excellent place to play.

 

[PokerDogDoc]

For comparison, Moneymaker Social in Louisville charges $10 for a day membership (cheaper if doing it by the week, month, or year), plus $7 time fee paid out of stacks in the 1/3 game every 30 minutes with the dealer change.

 

[grahamplayscards]

For comparison, Moneymaker Social in Louisville charges $10 for a day membership (cheaper if doing it by the week, month, or year), plus $7 time “rake” in the 1/3 game every 30 minutes with the dealer change.

$10 a day and $7/HH or $14/hr seems like the number the market has widely settled on. There are pros and cons to all types of time collection (on dealer change from stacks, paying after sessions, pre-paying for time) but generally speaking they’re all the same functionally

 

[theedegen]

@PokerDogDoc & @grahamplayscards Have you guys played at Moneymaker Social?? Would you recommend? Maybe that should be my first trip. They have any free drinks/snacks?

And thank you for the info about the fee structure.

 

[grahamplayscards]

@PokerDogDoc & @grahamplayscards Have you guys played at Moneymaker Social?? Would you recommend? Maybe that should be my first trip. They have any free drinks/snacks?

And thank you for the info about the fee structure.

Yes. They have free coffee soda and water. Alcohol not allowed. No free food.

 

[theedegen]

Yes. They have free coffee soda and water. Alcohol not allowed. No free food.

No alcohol allowed surprises me. I'm not a big drinker, but would think that could be good for the game.

I wonder if that's just a local law that would make having alcohol there too difficult.

 

[grahamplayscards]

No alcohol allowed surprises me. I'm not a big drinker, but would think that could be good for the game.

I wonder if that's just a local law that would make having alcohol there too difficult.

Yeah it’s a liquor licensing thing (plus a lot of clubs are 18+ as opposed to 21+)