Cash Game Keeping money to make change (1 Viewer)

point = fuck that hosting shit, I will bring my 6 pack to your house.
 
Gotcha.

And I love it (hosting). I was only thinking of the bank.
 
Besides, if you host, you get to write the house rules.

And if it's my game, I get to deal for five or six hours. Oh joy... :cool:
 
I used to horde small bills in a separate pile. On game night, I'd buy in with a lot of small bills - often 30 or 40 singles, as well as fives and tens. The bank always had plenty of change for cash-outs... but it slows down the buy-in, because I'm super-anal about every cash-in and cash-out; I lay out chips next to cash and insist that someone else count and confirm both before anything changes hands.

Now, I keep $200 in my cash box: 10x$10, 10x$5, 40x$1, 40x$0.25. Adds up to $200 before the game, adds up to $200 after the game - plus any tips/remainders the players left. With ten players, it's enough to give everyone $19.75, along with any bigger bills. After the game, there will be some number of $20's or even larger bills in there, which I turn into change before the next game.

With the change already in the cash box, I can buy in with large bills, like everyone else... which is much quicker than counting three rows of ten singles, and then making someone else count them! But I still buy in with any small bills in my wallet, too, just to have extra change in there - and I always welcome others to buy in their small bills, as well. When take-out food shows up, there's always someone who needs to make change. So, if buying in for $80, I may buy in for $87 if I also have a five and two singles. A lot of people don't like to do that, because they want to more easily keep track of how much they're in for.
 
This thread makes me cringe about the state of math/logic education. The bank is the bank. Assuming no miscounting, the bank will have the same amount of money at the end of the night as it did at the start.

And by-the-by: for .25/.50 games, always round down...host should get to keep the fractional amounts to defray the cost of chips (edible or otherwise).

Mental's method above is good: buyer puts money on table. Host or trusted player counts it on table. Host gives chips. Buyer counts chips. Same as casino, and avoids claims of shorting.
 
I keep $100 in small bills, mostly 5s and 10s with a few 1s.
Guys who cash out at my game are generally happy to cash out to an even $5 amount and contribute the odd few dollars and quarters to the voluntary snack fund
 
The host usually funds the bank. I do that by buying in with small bills. Every couple of months I'll stop at the bank to stock up on singles, fives, and tens.
yup, this is what I do too.

as for the expense part, it is a labor of love. I have "spent" much dinero on my tables, chips, poker room, etc. I and I love it.
 
For my home game, I start the night with $200 in my bankroll wallet....$40 in 1's, $100 in $5's and $60 in $10's.
It's always been enough for needed change for tournament buy-ins ($10) and add-ons ($5) and for the cash games afterwards. Whatever $$$ is left when the night ends makes it easy for me to figure out what I win/lose for the night.
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This is all I do as well. I buy-in with dollars and fives and everyone else buys in with their $20s.

exactly what I do. I keep two full buy ins in the bank. Its all 1's, 5's, and 10's. I used to keep quarters as well so I could cash someone out with the exact amount. Not one single person ever wanted the "change". Usually they just throw the extra quarter in the pot for the next hand. Otherwise I round up for them and take the small loss (which only happened once).
point = fuck that hosting shit, I will bring my 6 pack to your house.

One of my regulars shows up with a 12 pack to donate to the poker party every time he plays. He doesn't drink. @ChaosRock has donated a couple of bottles of whiskey.

A few other guests have brought chips, ect....A friend always calls before the game and offers to pick up ice, beer, ect....

Its nice to have appreciative guests
 
I do payout similar to Mental Nomad. I have them first get their count then slide them over to me and I count. I will sometimes ask a third party (one of my non-drinkers) to verify as well. It is amazing how often the player has an incorrect count most of the time shorting themselves. Payout is usually 7-9 hours into the game after a day of work and a fair amount of beer.
For change I use a point of sale cash drawer that would go with a business cash register. Most players bring $20s so I have mostly $5 bills and $1s. I have been picking up $1 coins at the bank. It is much faster than bills and some players put them on the dresser at home and then bring them back to the next game.
 
Its nice to have appreciative guests

I like to think I am, because I usually help cleaning up and such, but the ones hosting are way under appreciated. I wish more players were like those you referenced, maybe I would allow people in my home ;)

BiGGyT
 
The OP had a classic "brain fart" , thinking he's going to put $200 extra change in the bank, and somehow the $200 would not remain there at the end ...
** I like to go to the bank for tournaments, & get a strap or two of $2 bills, & sometimes some half-dollars, to be put in the prize envelopes .....this also works well for cash games & is unexpected .... You may have to ask the head teller to order them for you, and come back in a few days to pick them up ....

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Similarly, for us Canadians, the mint.ca will issue a special circulation coin, quarter, loonie, toonie, what have you, and sell them at face with free shipping. I check in the website from time to time and order them to give out as change. The players like getting the special coins.

Last time it was the Remembrance Day pack.

http://www.mint.ca/store/coins/2015...s-fieldsem-and-poppy-prod2530324#.Vqp-ofkrKUk
 
I buy in for small bills, keep some extra on hand, and don't pay to the quarter.
 
While we're talking about buyins....

I absolutely abhor $50 bills. They look like $20s and you have to be very, very careful what you do with them in regards to how you store the cash. My old lockbox only had 3 slots - one for hundos, one for $20s and one for everything else. The $50s would invariably get lost with the $20s and when I went to cash people out they wouldn't catch that a $50 bill was in there. This resulted in me being off with the bank.

Now I have a separate slot just for $50s and I put chips on top of them to isolate them. First person to cash out for the night gets stuck with the $50s. Much better now.

Cliffs: Don't be first to cash out, stay till at least 4am for confirmed hundos in payout.
 
While we're talking about buyins....

I absolutely abhor $50 bills. They look like $20s and you have to be very, very careful what you do with them in regards to how you store the cash. My old lockbox only had 3 slots - one for hundos, one for $20s and one for everything else. The $50s would invariably get lost with the $20s and when I went to cash people out they wouldn't catch that a $50 bill was in there. This resulted in me being off with the bank.

Now I have a separate slot just for $50s and I put chips on top of them to isolate them. First person to cash out for the night gets stuck with the $50s. Much better now.

Cliffs: Don't be first to cash out, stay till at least 4am for confirmed hundos in payout.
I always punish the $50 bill people by giving them back to them should they cash out with more then $50. We had 3 $50 bills at the last game. I HATE them for all of the reasons you already stated. Why do we even have a $50 bill? Let's think about that in chip terms.... $1/$5/$25/$50/$100. One of these is not like the other...
 
Hosting my game adds up.

My wife cooks a full dinner, depending on the meal that runs $30 to $50.
Drinks, paper goods, cup, set ups etc maybe another $20.
The players bring deserts and some snacks
Then we play on a fancy table with vintage casino chips - - priceless (but not cheap)

So $50 - $70 gross per game. The players leave tips - say $25 Net outlay per game ~$35.

I host about 40 nights a year - - - - $1,400 a year to host.

The bank has nothing to do with it.

worth every penny -=- DrStrange
Not having to worry about a DUI on the drive home is worth the 1400$!

I always ask players when they cash out if they have singles or fives when they cash out so I can pay them back in larger bills.
 
If you host a game, you spend money on tables, chairs, chips, drinks, snacks, toilet paper, etc. You have to clean up after slobs and drunks who spill beer on your tables and chips. Unless you are raking in the big cash, you are always losing. Hosting is an expense in time and materials, not to be taken lightly.

while this is true and factual, i actually don't mind the "clean[ing] up after slobs and drunks" as you put it. the people i have over are close friends and even with 2-3 tables, everyone helps try to keep things clean and/or clean up afterward.

and most don't come empty handed either ;)
 
while this is true and factual, i actually don't mind the "clean[ing] up after slobs and drunks" as you put it. the people i have over are close friends and even with 2-3 tables, everyone helps try to keep things clean and/or clean up afterward.

and most don't come empty handed either ;)


My son helps me clean up every morning after a poker game. Then we get corned beef hash for breakfast :)

I have several guys that bring beer/snacks to the game. South East Michigan has some great players/hosts.
 
My son helps me clean up every morning after a poker game. Then we get corned beef hash for breakfast :)

I have several guys that bring beer/snacks to the game. South East Michigan has some great players/hosts.

exactly this, breakfast after cleaning the following morning (if need be) included!

sure, i supply the: home, poker tables, nice poker chips, and a decent selection of single malts...but i actually enjoy it and the hosting itself. combine that with people bringing drinks, food, or even offering to pitch in for pizza or take out - and offering to help clean - no complaints here.
 
Slight tangent from OP but...
The thought of NOT hosting (or at least not WANTING to host) tilts me. I personally would find it hard to be around these parts if I didn't plan to host whenever possible.
 

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