Tourney How do you tip your dealer - tournament (6 Viewers)

[Lts923]

Gents,

Just curious for those that run home games how you tip your dealers.

Cash game he gets to keep all tips. No issues here.

Question is the tournament more than anything. What’s the appropriate pay rate for a true dedicated dealer on a tournament that turns into cash after.

Do you pay them set amounts? Portion of pot? Hourly?

What’s the best way to handle this.

Recently was In a home game where dealer was paid at the table off the top $180 out of a 1260 pot. Which was more than the initial buy ins at the table for 3 hours of game play.

Thoughts?

 

[doublebooyah85]

Tournament tips is always so hard to gauge.

You have to make sure the Dealer understands he’s going to make less money because it’s not a cash night, and the reason he gets the deal the cash nights is because he also helps for tournaments.

I’ve moved to the players tip him out of the winnings. Just let the players know dealers work for tips.

 

[doublebooyah85]

In a snapshot, small snapshot, dealers appear to be overpaid. But it’s not a 40 hour job. It doesn’t translate and compound to a yearly income.

It’s a small part time gig usually at hours they’d rather spend at home or with family and friends etc.

 

[DrStrange]

Judging by other threads on this site - qualified dealers expect to make $50 - $100+ an hour. Maybe that is from tips, maybe from the entry fees. I have no idea what an informal dealer expects to make.

DrStrange

 

[Lts923]

Judging by other threads on this site - qualified dealers expect to make $50 - $100+ an hour. Maybe that is from tips, maybe from the entry fees. I have no idea what an informal dealer expects to make.

DrStrange

Need to quit my day job at that rate lol

 

[doublebooyah85]

Need to quit my day job at that rate lol

Again, you can’t compound it out to a 40 hour job.

It’s a premium weekend or a weeknight. Shitty hours. And a small gig in relation to hours. It’s not like a private dealer has a game to work every night at $50/hour.

 

[Lts923]

Again, you can’t compound it out to a 40 hour job.

It’s a premium weekend or a weeknight. Shitty hours. And a small gig in relation to hours. It’s not like a private dealer has a game to work every night at $50/hour.

The local game dealer runs 4 games a week two nights per host and has been dealing cash games for 10 years as his sole income makes anywhere from 5-1000$ a night. Very sustainable if you have the right set up. Plus, no taxes straight cash.

 

[BarrieJ3]

I'm the sucker that tips everywhere. When the screen pops up, I always hit tip. Stay at a hotel? Leave cash on the desk. Delivery people dropped something off? Slip em a bill. Casino? Same.

Home game? Prob because I'm new to poker I just don't dig it. If it's a well run tournament, sure tip out from winners. If it's cash......? Idk, from what little I've seen home game dealers don't seem to be all that quick on the maffs, game doesn't seem to move that much quicker, etc. But I can see the advantage if it's a legit full time casino dealer moonlighting, but even then I prefer to give a bulk tip. I'd prefer to just hand over $100 right off the start of the night or at the end.

I've also attended games where it's a legit dealer, but the dealer is making tips to then play in the game with said tips and may or may not continue the dealing. Maybe that's normalized and I get that pcf is used to that at their games, but I don't dig it. It's just adding levels of uncertainty and potential uncomfortability to something meant to be a fun night.

 

[doublebooyah85]

The local game dealer runs 4 games a week two nights per host and has been dealing cash games for 10 years as his sole income makes anywhere from 5-1000$ a night. Very sustainable if you have the right set up. Plus, no taxes straight cash.

Works shitty hours. Makes 2500 a week. He should claim taxes that’s on him. Very easy to find this line of work to make that type of money.

Not mention he has no health benefits either.

The market has spoken. This isn’t some guy that hacked capitalism and found the best job in the world. Just some people can’t grasp it. It pays what it pays.

 

[dizzyChipper]

Works shitty hours. Makes 2500 a week. He should claim taxes that’s on him. Very easy to find this line of work to make that type of money.

Not mention he has no health benefits either.

The market has spoken. This isn’t some guy that hacked capitalism and found the best job in the world. Just some people can’t grasp it. It pays what it pays.

Booyah booyah

 

[Lts923]

Works shitty hours. Makes 2500 a week. He should claim taxes that’s on him. Very easy to find this line of work to make that type of money.

Not mention he has no health benefits either.

The market has spoken. This isn’t some guy that hacked capitalism and found the best job in the world. Just some people can’t grasp it. It pays what it pays.

I can get behind this to an extent. West Texas money you’re not touching 10k a month without busting your ass in the conditions or in a Speciality of some sort. I mean evening hours aren’t the best but for 2500$ a week..I’ve done worse for less

 

[mdt11]

You should have a decent idea of long your tournament will take based on the structure and number of players/rebuys. Using that, plus a reasonable hourly rate based on the dealer, your area, etc… you can back into a set number and take that out of the prize pool. Of course, you should be completely transparent with the players about this as well.

 

[jxfan]

I’ve actually never heard of tipping in tournament. That being said, a set hourly rate independent of chip stacks might be the way to go?

 

[Grimace]

In a weekly game I play there are dedicated dealers who earn entry and a few bucks for dealing. If I place I always toss them a twenty or two because I know I saw more hands because of their hard work.

 

[JustinInMN]

I think 2-3% of the prize is reasonable in a casino setting, especially if I have already paid a dealer appreciate fee, I will be on the lower end of this. Home game 4-5% is probably better.