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[Darson]

After staring at the Mapes chips for a while and realising that there is no way I'm gonna find or afford real TRKs, I thought about a ceramic tribute set. You may have seen my "Apes" mock-ups before but what do you think of these on hybrid ceramics?

Closeup of the label:

 

[saleen121212]

Why not go CPC? The inlay looks incredible. 10/10 would be happy to use on my chips.

 

[Beakertwang]

Why not go CPC? The inlay looks incredible. 10/10 would be happy to use on my chips.

I’m on the fence with this. You lose some of the color, and would have to settle for edge spots that aren’t quite accurate. On the other hand, you get the TRK mold, plus actual inlaid chips. Love the idea, either way.

 

[RichMahogany]

CPC or nothing for a TRK tribute set. Even if David Spragg et, al. hadn’t brought back the TRK molds I’d still say CPC or nothing.

 

[Lemonzest]

CPC or nothing for a TRK tribute set. Even if David Spragg et, al. hadn’t brought back the TRK molds I’d still say CPC or nothing.

+1

The idea of a Mapes tribute set with my name or some other name on the scrown mold is very tempting.

How would the CPC version compare to the original Mapes chips in quality/feel etc.?

 

[RichMahogany]

+1

The idea of a Mapes tribute set with my name or some other name on the scrown mold is very tempting.

How would the CPC version compare to the original Mapes chips in quality/feel etc.?

In another thread David Spragg mentioned that the unweighted colors are closest in feel to original TRKs. Sadly enough, I haven’t spent any time comparing my originals to CPCs side by side when it comes to weight and feel(general shuffling and handling).

 

[BGinGA]

Unless tri-moon spots become available, I'd rather go with hybrids for a Mapes tribute set and get both accurate spots and colors.

Those so inclined could even pony up the extra $$ for a custom hybrid mold that exactly matches the original inlay size and includes the crown indentations around the circumference.

Overall cost would be similar, and the hybrids would look spectacularly better.

 

[softchewy]

TRKs, like other clay chips, vary in weight due to composition for different colors (and other factors).
A good demonstration of how large this variation can be is found in the Mapes/Money Tree chips.
Mapes/Money Tree $5s weigh just about 9 grams
Money Tree pink $.50s, a whopping 12.3grams
CPC would match up in terms of weight feel best with the Mapes/Money Tree $5s.
The actual texture is somewhat different - CPC is more brittle feeling, TRK, more buttery. YMMV
If you have ever shuffled a stack of Mapes $1s vs CPC, there is no comparison.
Durability, they will both last a lifetime of home games, but the CPC would probably be a bit more durable in terms of wear (meaning it would take longer to round the edges of the CPCs).

 

[softchewy]

Unless tri-moon spots become available, I'd rather go with hybrids for a Mapes tribute set and get both accurate spots and colors.

Those so inclined could even pony up the extra $$ for a custom hybrid mold that exactly matches the original inlay size and includes the crown indentations around the circumference.

Overall cost would be similar, and the hybrids would look spectacularly better.

To be clear though, can not truly match the colors of the mapes on a hybrid or any other current chip.. just not possible.

 

[saleen121212]

Unless tri-moon spots become available, I'd rather go with hybrids for a Mapes tribute set and get both accurate spots and colors.

Those so inclined could even pony up the extra $$ for a custom hybrid mold that exactly matches the original inlay size and includes the crown indentations around the circumference.

Overall cost would be similar, and the hybrids would look spectacularly better.

@BGinGA always swooping in and making tons of sense. If someone does this we should do a group buy. I guarantee it would be a hit. Add crown indents to the OP lay out and boom.

 

[saleen121212]

oh also change the 25 to a 20

 

[Lemonzest]

Unless tri-moon spots become available, I'd rather go with hybrids for a Mapes tribute set and get both accurate spots and colors.

Those so inclined could even pony up the extra $$ for a custom hybrid mold that exactly matches the original inlay size and includes the crown indentations around the circumference.

Overall cost would be similar, and the hybrids would look spectacularly better.

Thanks. I would only be interested if it was possible on the right mold with the right spots. ***project shelved***

I am not interested in a ceramic hybrid option.

 

[softchewy]

Both options (hybrid and CPC) have their merits and detractions.
If I had to choose (I don't, as I have the privilege of owning a Mapes set), I would go with CPC.
For the most part, I prefer the feel of them to the hybrids (though like both) and the mold is the original.. that counts for ALOT.
Edgespots on clay chip have natural variation (which I personally like), hybrids, not so much
Even without the tri-moon spots, the CPC look very nice.

In case you aren't aware, the Mapes have been replicated on CPC in the form of a custom set by at least 2 members already (prior to the scrown mold availability)

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/media/albums/mikes-casino.979/

 

[Darson]

Unless tri-moon spots become available, I'd rather go with hybrids for a Mapes tribute set and get both accurate spots and colors.

Those so inclined could even pony up the extra $$ for a custom hybrid mold that exactly matches the original inlay size and includes the crown indentations around the circumference.

Overall cost would be similar, and the hybrids would look spectacularly better.

Exactly. Both spots and colours which you can’t get on CPC. I didn’t think about the mold possibility but that would be even cooler.

Another factor is costs <$1 per chip for plain hybrids and many multiples of that for CPC.

 

[saleen121212]

I don't care which way you decide to go, as long as it stays promising I will take a heads up set if I can piggy back on your order or if you do a group buy...

 

[Darson]

Those so inclined could even pony up the extra $$ for a custom hybrid mold that exactly matches the original inlay size and includes the crown indentations around the circumference.

Do you know how much a mold would cost and if there are any restrictions to using the scrown pattern?

 

[PlaidDragon]

After staring at the Mapes chips for a while and realising that there is no way I'm gonna find or afford real TRKs, I thought about a ceramic tribute set. You may have seen my "Apes" mock-ups before but what do you think of these on hybrid ceramics?

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Closeup of the label:
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If only CPC had half moon spots available. Wait, what am I saying. If they DID half half moons available I'd instantly spend on another set!

 

[BGinGA]

Do you know how much a mold would cost and if there are any restrictions to using the scrown pattern?

I think the last custom hybrid mold we had Sun-Fly create was $4000, which they absorbed when our group buy order numbers hit 20,000 chips. I was also quoted $4000 (a few years ago) for a custom polyclay mold, which contained custom indentation markings (their stock molds contain either diamonds or cards).

I suspect CPC wouldn't be very happy if we copied the scrown mold markings exactly, but replacing the crowns with rectangles, ovals, or something similar shouldn't be a problem.

 

[saleen121212]

What about less crowns and no lines in between. Think thc style but with crowns the crown could also have more points on top. Also since we aren't selling them to the masses and we are just custom ordering then for ourselves does it matter if it's close? I mean ethically we shouldn't straight copy someone else, but if we are doing a tribute it has to be close. I guess we could also ask their permission.

I really like the cpc tribute posted above also, but I'm sure that's closer to the 3 dollar per chip range.

 

[72o]

I think the last custom hybrid mold we had Sun-Fly create was $4000, which they absorbed when our group buy order numbers hit 20,000 chips. I was also quoted $4000 (a few years ago) for a custom polyclay mold, which contained custom indentation markings (their stock molds contain either diamonds or cards).

I suspect CPC wouldn't be very happy if we copied the scrown mold markings exactly, but replacing the crowns with rectangles, ovals, or something similar shouldn't be a problem.

You could face the “crown” outward and call it the boyshort mold.

 

[BGinGA]

^^ That's thinking outside the boxers.

call it the boyshort mold.

I'd be afraid the common name would turn out to be crotch mold.

 

[PlaidDragon]

<brain implodes>

 

[Beakertwang]

^^ That's thinking outside the boxers.


I'd be afraid the common name would turn out to be crotch mold.

Where's the rimshot emoji?

And while we're on the subject of crotch molds, are there any doctors who'd be willing to take a look at a few pics for me?

 

[saleen121212]

Something like these

 

[Darson]

OK darlings, while I do appreciate that real clay would be nice, it's also 3x the price! So when I say "check out the Camry I'm thinking of buying", replying that "but a Ferrari would be so much better" and "look at the Ferraris that others have bought" is missing the point a little

So inspired by the ACF hybrids and keeping with the simian theme, why not "print" the mold:

 

[saleen121212]

OK darlings, while I do appreciate that real clay would be nice, it's also 3x the price! So when I say "check out the Camry I'm thinking of buying", replying that "but a Ferrari would be so much better" and "look at the Ferraris that others have bought" is missing the point a little

So inspired by the ACF hybrids and keeping with the simian theme, why not "print" the mold:

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Love the idea but it is too busy looking now. I know nothing about the Mapes original colors, but this line up would look really good with a yellow 5, black 20, blue 1 and orange/pink/purple frac with a white 100. I also like the original mock up.

 

[ekricket]

OK darlings, while I do appreciate that real clay would be nice, it's also 3x the price! So when I say "check out the Camry I'm thinking of buying", replying that "but a Ferrari would be so much better" and "look at the Ferraris that others have bought" is missing the point a little

So inspired by the ACF hybrids and keeping with the simian theme, why not "print" the mold:

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Banana mold?

How about an “M” mold for the tribute?

 

[BGinGA]

Too many bananas.

 

[RichMahogany]

missing the point a little

Well it could also be said that by imitating the edge spots of clay chips that you’re missing the point of ceramics to a degree

After owning a set of hybrids that imitated clay chips I’ve decided that I would only own ceramics that play into the strengths of ceramic chips. If I want something that looks like a clay chip, then I might as well have a clay chip. With all you can do with ceramics, It also seems a waste to me to have a solid ceramic chip.

 

[allforcharity]

My own stupid opinions:

1) I'd prefer no bananas. Even for me, that's a little over the top.
2) No "traditional" edge spots. First, you would pay a lot extra for edge alignment on both sides. Second, it's trying too hard to be a compression clay.
3) Play to the strengths of ceramics: rolling edge artwork, full face printing, different artwork possible on both sides at the same cost.