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Hi all,

I'm new to tournament and I'm currently trying to together a STT set. I would love your input and help on this matter. I currently have 430 chips + 10 seating/bounty chips:

200 x $25
140 x $100
90 x $500

Some questions:
1. I have a vacancy of 60 chips to 500 chips. What is a good denom to add? 2k?
2. Would a set of 120/120/90/60 for 25/100/500/2k work? (Perhaps an answer from someone who can confidently correct me would be helpful)
3. Starting stack of 12/12/5/3?


I'm open to any suggestions as well. Bear in mind that shipping is really expensive for me, so "optimising breakdown" might be more costly. IMO adding 3 barrels is probably the easiest and cheapest option.

Any suggestion for the 2k chip would be appreciated as well (max $3/chip).

If it can't work I'd probably sell them off. Thanks!

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(photos from ChipGuide)
 
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With a couple dark'ish chips for the 100 and 500, I'd go with a lighter color on the 2k to stand out.

Nice, but can be hard to find:
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Much more available:
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A live chip - a few of them are floating around out there:
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Also kinda nice:
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Edit: Added the SY $2. Nice.
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With a couple dark'ish chips for the 100 and 500, I'd go with a lighter color on the 2k to stand out.

Nice, but can be hard to find:
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Much more available:
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A live chip - a few of them are floating around out there:
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Also kinda nice:
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Santa Ysabel $2 would work nicely too.
 
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Currently a live $2 chip, I have asked @kmccormick100 and he said he could help me harvest them (unsure about price for 3 barrels, previously enquired for a rack).

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Bursting my budget but I think Jack $5s look decent too.
 
Does that mean I can sell off a rack of chips - 80 $25s and 20 $100s? Then I'd colour up with 500s and 2ks only
Yeah, I checked on the calculator and with color-ups for 10-people and no rebuys, you would only need 400 chips in total. 120, 150, 80, 50 respectively.
 
Yeah, I checked on the calculator and with color-ups for 10-people and no rebuys, you would only need 400 chips in total. 120, 150, 80, 50 respectively.
Might be hard to find just 10 $100s. 120/120/90/60 doesn't work? Guess I'd compromise and do a double colour-up (use 500s to colour up 100s, then use the 100s to colour up 25s). Would that work?

yes, but you need 200 more $25
I already have 200 $25s. If 120/120/90/60 works then I'd sell the 4 barrels of 25 + 1 barrel of $100.
 
Might be hard to find just 10 $100s. 120/120/90/60 doesn't work? Guess I'd compromise and do a double colour-up (use 500s to colour up 100s, then use the 100s to colour up 25s). Would that work?


I already have 200 $25s. If 120/120/90/60 works then I'd sell the 4 barrels of 25 + 1 barrel of $100.
That would probably work, the chip calculator doesn't use normal color-ups, it uses color-ups that just colors up 25s to 100s, etc. whereas the correct strategy is just putting in more 2ks and exchanging them for the lower denoms.
 
2k plaques? You'd need about 30 of them at about $7 per.
Not plaques, probably overlabelled chip.

That would probably work, the chip calculator doesn't use normal color-ups, it uses color-ups that just colors up 25s to 100s, etc. whereas the correct strategy is just putting in more 2ks and exchanging them for the lower denoms.
So a 120/120/90/60 would work?

Edit: Thanks, I'd like some assurance from others as well that this breakdown is workable before committing to it.
 
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I do not recommend using a T2000 chip in a small set used for small starting stacks or just one or two tables. You will also need a LOT more T500 chips if you are using T2000 chips (5 per starting stack is about half of what you'll need). The T500 chip is a workhorse chip, when no T1000 chips are in play.

Smallest starting stacks I recommend are T20K (12/12/9/7) for a bare minimum of two tables (20 players), and 3+ tables is preferred. Otherwise, you are better off using T1000 chips.

So minimum recommended set size if using T2000 chips would be:

240 x T25
240 x T100
180 x T500
155 x T2000 (includes 15x for T25/T100 color-ups)
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815 chips
 
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Smallest starting stacks I recommend are T20K (12/12/9/7) for a bare minimum of two tables (20 players), and 3+ tables is preferred. Otherwise, you are better off using T1000 chips.

Pertaining specifically to what I have now, what is the best way to make it into a playable set then? 160 1k chips?

Or it would be impossible
 
If using T1000 chips, you can use this breakdown for a 10K starting stack (12/12/5/6) event for 16 players:

200 x T25 (192 required, 8 extras)
200 x T100 (192 required, 8 extras)
80 x T500
121 x T1000 (includes 25x for T25/T100 color-ups)
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585 chips

You could theoretically use your extra 10x T500 chips to color-up the T25s, thus only needing 20 T1000 chips for T100 color-up:

200 x T25 (192 required, 8 extras)
200 x T100 (192 required, 8 extras)
90 x T500 (includes 10x for T25 color-ups)
116 x T1000 (includes 20x for T100 color-ups)
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590 chips

Or if you want to use 12/12/5/6 stacks for a single table and 8/8/4/7 stacks for 16 players, you can get by with this breakdown:

128 x T25
128 x T100
64 x T500
129 x T1000 (includes 17x for T25/T100 color-ups)
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449 chips
 
Pertaining specifically to what I have now, what is the best way to make it into a playable set then? 160 1k chips?

Or it would be impossible
Are you trying to create a single-table set or two-table set?
 
Yeah, but 200x is pretty standard for a two-table set seating 8 players per table. That threw me off.
Somebody had said something about a 20/x/x/x starting stack, which probably made him think he needed more chips.
 
Pertaining specifically to what I have now, what is the best way to make it into a playable set then? 160 1k chips?
For a single table set (10 players) with T10K stacks (12/12/5/6), I'd recommend the following:

120 x T25
120 x T100
50 x T500
75 x T1000 (includes 15x for T25/T100 color-ups)
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365 chips

If wanting to upsize, I'd add 20x T5000 chips (allows for larger 20K stacks or up to 10 x 10K re-buys).
 
Thanks for the detailed input on possible starting stacks and possible combinations of the set. I was looking to complete a STT but I guess a 2 table would work out as well if not too expensive. However, I don't think I could get any more hundos to complete 2 racks, so I'd probably be trimming down my set to build a STT.

For a single table set (10 players) with T10K stacks (12/12/5/6), I'd recommend the following:

120 x T25
120 x T100
50 x T500
75 x T1000 (includes 15x for T25/T100 color-ups)
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365 chips

If wanting to upsize, I'd add 20x T5000 chips (allows for larger 20K stacks or up to 10 x 10K re-buys).

This seems like the most ideal breakdown for now.

I'd sell off:
4 barrels of 25
1 barrel of 100
2 barrels of 500

And buy:
4 barrels of T1000
+/- 1 barrel of T5000

Does that sound right? Thanks a lot for your advice @BGinGA really appreciate it. I'll give it some good thought.
 
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Weighing my options here, what breakdown would I need for a starting stack of 12/12/7/5?

Also, what about adding a T5 instead of adding T1k/T5k? Not sure how a T5 would work. Thanks!
 
Absolutely. I typically recommend using between 10-16 chips each of the lowest two denominations in any tournament set (so 10 or 15 each if T1-, T5-. T100-, or T500-base, and 12 or 16 each if T.25 or T25-base).

T2000 stacks, T5-base:
10 x T5
10 x T25
7 x T100
2 x T500
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29 chips per player. A bare-bones 10-player set (with color-ups) can be built using 300 chips (100/100/70/20/10).
Saw a post sometime last year from @BGinGA

Just wondering, would it be possible to run a 2 table tourney with 200/200/140/40/20 for the denom 5/25/100/500/1000? This seems like an near way to complete it by adding 2 racks of T5 and a barrel of 1k only.
 
I meant what breakdown of each denom I would need if I were to start at T5
I'm still not clear on exactly what you're trying to do here. Your set from the OP is adequate for a 1 table tourney.

200 x $25
140 x $100
90 x $500

You want to increase the number of players?
 
I'm considering all options on how to have a complete tournament set. I'm okay with both STT and 2 table, and I'm exploring all my options on what's the best way to complete my set. I'm going with overlabels, so I would like to know the denomination breakdown (what @BGinGA has been kindly posting) before purchasing the chips.

Your set from the OP is adequate for a 1 table tourney.
You want to increase the number of players?
What would the breakdown of chips be like? Thanks
 
Here is my favorite breakdown for a T-10,000 freeze out (adjusted for 20 players) with enough chips to color up all the way

240 $25 / 300 $100 / 200 $500 / 200 $1,000
starting stacks 12-12-7-5

 

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