Cash Game Help with 200 chip mini micro set (2 Viewers)

[FearlessFred]

Hello,

Firstly, I already have a great main cash set for my regular group. However, this stays at our venue and I have nothing at home.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...m-set-design-and-inspiration-write-up.120974/

I'm looking to purchase a tina no mold set (inexpensive) of 200 chips for travel and intro home games. My table at home is a traditional card table so is only for 4 players.

This new set would be 100BB 5p/5p cash for 4 (maybe 5 players) playing very casual poker and OFCP.

200 chips is nice and in budget and will fit in a small case or carousel for home. I'm buying in quantities of 25 from a tina GB.

Should I buy:

50x 5p
100x 25p
50 x £1

10/10/2 starting stacks for 4 players and the 1st rebuy
bank for 3 buy-ins each

or

75x 5p
100x 25p
25x £1

15/17 starting stacks
Bank for ~2.5 buy-ins each

?

I'm also open to the option of a 20p chip (this is a UK coin whereas 25p is not)

Thanks,

FF

 

[Booshme]

Hello,

Firstly, I already have a great main cash set for my regular group. However, this stays at our venue and I have nothing at home.
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/thre...m-set-design-and-inspiration-write-up.120974/

I'm looking to purchase a tina no mold set (inexpensive) of 200 chips for travel and intro home games. My table at home is a traditional card table so is only for 4 players.

This new set would be 100BB 5p/5p cash for 4 (maybe 5 players) playing very casual poker and OFCP.

200 chips is nice and in budget and will fit in a small case or carousel for home. I'm buying in quantities of 25 from a tina GB.

Should I buy:

50x 5p
100x 25p
50 x £1

10/10/2 starting stacks for 4 players and the 1st rebuy
bank for 3 buy-ins each

or

75x 5p
100x 25p
25x £1

15/17 starting stacks
Bank for ~2.5 buy-ins each

?

I'm also open to the option of a 20p chip (this is a UK coin whereas 25p is not)

Thanks,

FF

I say option two and add a few 20p plaques to your set for fun (if budget isn’t too big of an issue). That would give you each almost a rack of blinds each, and more but not too many chips on the table which I like for smaller cash games (just my preference)

 

[Santa123]

#1

 

[Jimulacrum]

50x 5p
100x 25p
50 x £1

This breakdown, if you think £75 will be enough to cover even your wildest night of cards.

Or, consider:

50x 5p
75x 25p
50x £1
25x £5

I'd expect 25p to be the workhorse, but with 4 players, 75 chips is already enough for about 20 each. Bumping the bank up to over £190 via the 25 £5 chips is probably more valuable than extra 25p chips. You'll be able to handle even a pretty extreme night that runs deep.

 

[FearlessFred]

Thanks for the feedback.

Note this set is for home intro games for non-poker players. There will be no deep nights, a couple of buyins each will be enough.

Leaning towards the second option as it will also allow for more players for a travel kitchen table situation. £5 notes can be for rebuys

 

[Syzygyy]

i would go for 1 and switch 25p to 20p as you said because we don't have quarters this side of the atlantic

 

[FearlessFred]

i would go for 1 and switch 25p to 20p as you said because we don't have quarters this side of the atlantic

I'd really like to use 20p's but it just reduces the bank and the set efficiency, I'll have a think

 

[Syzygyy]

actually since you are using 5p fracs it makes no difference anyway. i was personally considering a cash set with 20p fracs vs 25p chip and that would be different which was in the back of my mind - that logic doesn't matter in this case.

 

[FearlessFred]

I could do the following:

50x 5p
100x 20p
50x £1

4 starting stacks of 12/22

Going with 20p's only loses £5 of bank so not too bad

 

[Aleck Hoag]

I’m also in the market for 200 chips for a micro stakes game while I await my group buy orders. What breakdown did you decide on? I’m in between:

Option A
50x 5¢
50x 25¢
75x $1
25x $5

Supporting 5x 10/10/7 starting stacks plus 3 rebuys per player

Option B
50x 5¢
50x 25¢
50x $1
50x $5

Supports same stacks but allows for $20 games with 2 rebuys

 

[FearlessFred]

I’m also in the market for 200 chips for a micro stakes game while I await my group buy orders. What breakdown did you decide on? I’m in between:

Option A
50x 5¢
50x 25¢
75x $1
25x $5

Supporting 5x 10/10/7 starting stacks plus 3 rebuys per player

Option B
50x 5¢
50x 25¢
50x $1
50x $5

Supports same stacks but allows for $20 games with 2 rebuys

How many players and what's the buyin? Also what's your group like, hardened gamblers or first timers?

You need more than 50 25c's as it will be the main betting chip. If it's just a mini set to tide you over, don't worry about a perfect bank, you just need enough chips to play and then cash or anything can sub in for rebuys

 

[Aleck Hoag]

This is for 5 players with zero experience. Definitely tight on quarters I could increase the count to 75. It’s a $20 loss in bank but still enough for 3 buy ins of $10

 

[FearlessFred]

This is for 5 players with zero experience. Definitely tight on quarters I could increase the count to 75. It’s a $20 loss in bank but still enough for 3 buy ins of $10

New players will not rebuy 3 times each. New players limp, min raise and bet the same on every street.

I'd go for 5c/5c cash for you

50x 5c
100x 25c
50x $1

 

[Aleck Hoag]

Very possible they won’t buy in 3 times but I doubt it seeing it’s only $30. I’m expecting the low buy in to make the game less of a limp fest as it’s only 10 bucks if you go all in. Another thing I’ve considered is being hyper aggressive even when it makes no sense to be just so that they get used to larger betting sizes.

In terms of stakes still going 5/10 because I want to be as close to a game they’d find elsewhere as possible. If that makes the game a little harder to learn then oh well sometimes things are hard to learn. We’re all engineers doctors and lawyers though so I’m not too worried about them picking up new skills

 

[Aleck Hoag]

New players will not rebuy 3 times each. New players limp, min raise and bet the same on every street.

I'd go for 5c/5c cash for you

50x 5c
100x 25c
50x $1

I know technically starting stacks matter less in cash games but what’s the proposed stack for this one?

 

[FearlessFred]

I know technically starting stacks matter less in cash games but what’s the proposed stack for this one?

10/18

 

[ekricket]

This is for 5 players with zero experience. Definitely tight on quarters I could increase the count to 75. It’s a $20 loss in bank but still enough for 3 buy ins of $10

For gods sake teach the newbs how to bet correctly. When the bet is $2 don’t use quarters. They do that three times and they are suddenly begging for change and making change from the pot out of turn. The one guy who knows how to bet properly is sitting on all the quarters because he doesn’t pay a $5 raise in quarters.

 

[Aleck Hoag]

For gods sake teach the newbs how to bet correctly. When the bet is $2 don’t use quarters. They do that three times and they are suddenly begging for change and making change from the pot out of turn. The one guy who knows how to bet properly is sitting on all the quarters because he doesn’t pay a $5 raise in quarters.

I agree it’s my job as host to help teach. Is this an endorsement of the breakdown with fewer or more quarters? Your message makes me think I should get more 1s. Perhaps I’ll go with Fred’s idea and dump all the 5s to get more of the lower denoms

 

[Aleck Hoag]

10/18

That would be pleasing to view at the table as well

 

[FearlessFred]

You could consider a .10/.50/1/5 (or 2/10) set too to gain a bit of efficiency?

Do you need to purchase in quantities of 25s?

50x 5c
70x 25c
70x $1
10x $5

This gets to a bank of $140 with 5 starting stacks of 10/14/6.

Since this is just a set to tide you over, i'd ditch the $5s and let bills play. You don't need PCF perfection for a temporary set for new players

 

[Aleck Hoag]

I’m trying to keep this set dirt cheap and as small as possible because I just ordered in a group buy and Im putting together the designs for next months group buy order. A few thousand chips in total for multiple stakes cash and tournament.

The vendor I plan on going with sells in quantities of 25. I saw a sale on a configurable 200 chip set for $80 so that’s what I plan on going with. I’m not against 10/50/2/10 but like 5¢, 2 and 10 chips aren’t the easiest to find. Funny enough they tend to not exist in (cheap) sets with 10¢ and 50¢. I’ll keep an eye on the classified maybe I can pick this set up piecemeal from different people.

The breakdown for 10¢/50¢/$2/$10 could be:
50/75/50/25
50/75/75
50/100/50
All support 5x 10/10/7 starting stacks worth $20 (100bb at 10/20¢). I would definitely prefer $10 games to encourage people buying in a lot but this isn’t too crazy. These breakdowns are the same as my 5¢ proposal above but perhaps the gameplay they provide is more cohesive? Would you go with a different breakdown altogether? Sorry still new and getting the hang of this

 

[FearlessFred]

This seems to be your perfect solution:

10c x50
50c x100
$2 x 50

5 starting stacks of 10/18 for 100BB and a bank of $155.

Alternatively:

10c x50
50c x100
$1 x25
$5 x25

More bank and an option if you can't find $2s

 

[joeyshin]

i had a small (albeit larger than youre asking) microstakes set listed.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/paulson-microstakes-set-thc-solids.136405/

 

[Aleck Hoag]

This seems to be your perfect solution:

10c x50
50c x100
$2 x 50

Why is this breakdown preferred over the equivalent breakdown in 5¢/25¢/$1

Above you had suggested
50x 5¢
100x 25¢
50x $1

So why the change? For deeper bank?

 

[Aleck Hoag]

i had a small (albeit larger than youre asking) microstakes set listed.

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/paulson-microstakes-set-thc-solids.136405/

If I wasn’t on a budget for these chips I’d scoop that right up

 

[joeyshin]

If I wasn’t on a budget for these chips I’d scoop that right up

whats your budget

 

[Aleck Hoag]

I mentioned here that I’m already on the hook for some pretty sizable orders. I’m in a lucky situation where I got a lot of positive feedback when I suggested starting up a game so I needed a lot of chips. This set I’m intentionally keeping small and only plan on using for a couple months until my group buy orders arrive