GPI made the “Casino royale” chips ? (1 Viewer)

davislane said:
Hence the "made" comment. Without any further "evidence", the manufacturer of the movie chips is heavily in the "yet to be determined" category. The mystery continues
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see post 10. No mystery there.

Translating the referenced article:

”In a now famous scene, James Bond, played by Daniel Craig, pushes plates and chips on the green carpet of Casino Royale. The best-known Briton in the world after the queen then holds between his fingers products created and shaped in Savigny-lès-Beaune, at GPI SAS. A work "for fakes" that is not the daily life of the Burgundian society founded at the beginning of the 20th century, under the name Bourgogne & Grasset (read elsewhere), after the entrepreneurs who developed, in 1923, a celluloid sheet printing technique. An idea on which the company is still largely based, which, in particular, still uses a machine of the time.”
 
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warma said:
see post 10. No mystery there.

Translating the referenced article:

”In a now famous scene, James Bond, played by Daniel Craig, pushes plates and chips on the green carpet of Casino Royale. The best-known Briton in the world after the queen then holds between his fingers products created and shaped in Savigny-lès-Beaune, at GPI SAS. A work "for fakes" that is not the daily life of the Burgundian society founded at the beginning of the 20th century, under the name Bourgogne & Grasset (read elsewhere), after the entrepreneurs who developed, in 1923, a celluloid sheet printing technique. An idea on which the company is still largely based, which, in particular, still uses a machine of the time.”
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Doesn't say explicitly say they made the chips and the plaques. It says he holds products made by them. I understand it can be infered from the preceding statement but I just want to see a chip close up with the BG logo. Is that too much to ask? :cool
 
scoobycheesydoooo said:
Yes, it’s a very crappy sound. Exactly like those 20ct chips, no offense but they sound horrible. High pitch cling, whilst BG have a deeper clack, much fuller sound.
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You may be surprised, but many members here probably prefer the high pitched 'click' rather than the deeper 'clack' (or even 'clunk') because the former is more reminiscent of a compression clay material of about 9-10g weight. The somewhat duller and louder sound of many plastic chip products come from the extra weight that is added to them to bring it to about 12-14g. Some of the unweighted mass plastic product will also have a much higher pitch due to the low density of the ABS. Even old Bud Jones Suits mold at around 6-7g have this unsatisfyingly light sound to them.
 
It would make some logical sense that Cartamundi, having been a multi-year licensee for Bond gambling products, would have made all the chips in-house. Remember, no set produced for the public included any of the plaque designs made by B&G. Matsui, probably sensing that there was a demand in the fan/collector market for replica plaques, put out their version of it which was available for a good while, and probably got a C&D letter for their trouble. MSK put out their own "replica" line later, but with any casual observation they look nothing like the original production design, so likely avoided any trouble.

Cartamundi, knowing that they could not really provide a set of fan/collector chips that could match the movie props (since they were probably expressedly forbidden to use B&G provided plaques), and also knowing the typical stakes of home poker (cash or tournament), had to expand their product line to make chips designs into the sub-$5000 category. They only made them for a certain amount of time, and then probably ended up sub-contracting out to a Chinese manufacturer to continue providing for the general market through regular, non-movie related distribution chains.
 
The one odd question- would B&G allow Cartamundi (or anyone else) to replicate their chip design, including the inner ring? Or would it make sense to give the chips to Cartamundi from the start?

If Cartamundi had the consumer chip deal, what incentive is there for BG to make great chips that would only sell Cartamundi’s products? There’s no visible BG on the Casino Royale chips, and they didn't get an as good up close shot like the other BG chips.

The more I think about it, the more I am inclined to agree that the Casino Royale chips weren’t BG (whereas the plaques and other chips shown above are BG).

Interesting all around. I’m glad folks pressed their points and got the debate going.
 
warma said:
Last bit- see these auction results. There are a few sets- the Ocean Club, Casino Royale, the BG as chips, and the Casino Royale plaques. All have BG markings, save for the CR chips.

https://movieposters.ha.com/itm/mov...-Inventory-BuyNowFromOwner-ThisAuction-120115
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Someone perpetrated a fraud. There are 3 generic promotional B&G chips there that were listed as "used in Casino Royale (2006)". Some sucker is out more than US$1000.

And yes, if the original CR chips in $5000, $25000, and $100000 were made by B&G, they would definitely have had the BG logo on the decal. Since they do not, I would conclude that Cartamundi (or their chosen subcontractor) used the same manufacturing process for the chips in the movie as well as any they sold to the public (along with an expanded product line).
 
I distinctly remember this being discussed on CT not long after the movie came out and I believe it had been confirmed that Cartamundi made the chips in the tournament scene and B&G the plaques.

It's a shame none of that content exists anymore as this had been settled then.
 
The One and Only chips are B&Gs, or a knock-off using B&G's mold pattern. But those have only ever shown up in the movie, not retail, so probably they aren't knock-offs - who would use the B&G pattern for a movie prop except B&G?

Same thing for the chips from the Body Worlds scene, and same thing for the plaques.

If EON got custom B&G chips for one scene, and B&G manufacturer samples for a different scene, and custom B&G plaques for a third scene... would they have gotten chips for that same third scene from some other source? ... regardless of whether EON got them directly from B&G or via Cartamundi as a middleman?
 
davislane said:
Doesn't say explicitly say they made the chips and the plaques. It says he holds products made by them. I understand it can be infered from the preceding statement but I just want to see a chip close up with the BG logo. Is that too much to ask? :cool
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Well, not all chips have the Bg logo on the decal. It’s really a preference, and even the plaques can sometimes be without the logo.
So that’s that.
 
allforcharity said:
And yes, if the original CR chips in $5000, $25000, and $100000 were made by B&G, they would definitely have had the BG logo on the decal
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That’s not true, not all chips have the Bg logo on them. It’s really a preference by the casino that wants the logo or not, they can choose.
Holland casino don’t have any BG logo, not on the chips nor the plaques.
 
CrazyEddie said:
The One and Only chips are B&Gs, or a knock-off using B&G's mold pattern. But those have only ever shown up in the movie, not retail, so probably they aren't knock-offs - who would use the B&G pattern for a movie prop except B&G?

Same thing for the chips from the Body Worlds scene, and same thing for the plaques.

If EON got custom B&G chips for one scene, and B&G manufacturer samples for a different scene, and custom B&G plaques for a third scene... would they have gotten chips for that same third scene from some other source? ... regardless of whether EON got them directly from B&G or via Cartamundi as a middleman?
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This 100%. It’s not making sense that everything was B&G in the movie besides the chips in that last poker scene, I’m pretty positive the chips were B&G’s too.
As I understood from my source, GPI was really proud of it.
 
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They are BG , i have seen on Propstore a barrel of 19 glued BG casino royal chips and one was Normal.
So only one clean chip for each barrel on the table have survive.
That chip was sold for 400£.
 
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