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If I owned a casino I’d use these chip. Doesn’t look good for the future of clay chips.
Unfortunately I agree. I'm assuming these fall close to Paulson prices with everything streamlined for monitoring and security. Even if these are more expensive they have so much benefit for casinos that it's hard to imagine Paulson can really compete long-term with the increasingly smart focused world. Downside is I can't really imagine Paulson going back to the home market as they will likely continue to safeguard the slim security measures they have left. Whether or not that makes any sort of difference.
 
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The poster usually shows stacks in the millions of dollars. No casino is sweating that much unless there is no cash coming in. And they would definitely account for high rollers on the opening day.
MGM is massive enough to be fine sure but a $60k theo session with a million std dev can put a little unexpected gamble in a smaller casino’s P&L. They’re used to booking a million of variance on like 2-3m theo. They get two days revenue but two months variance. Sure their revenue line will be in the black but the house might not win that month. That’s unusual I’d think.

The corollary confirmed in the thread is that high limit craps (different than the standard floor limits) isn’t really a thing. The best he can seem to get is 2x limits ($10k max) and then it isn’t everywhere. Thats it. Guess thats about as risky as any casino is willing to go on craps. Very surprised to learn that.
 
Unfortunately I agree. I'm assuming these fall close to Paulson prices with everything streamlined for monitoring and security. Even if these are more expensive they have so much benefit for casinos that it's hard to imagine Paulson can really compete long-term with the increasingly smart focused world. Downside is I can't really imagine Paulson going back to the home market as they will likely continue to safeguard the slim security measures they have left. Whether or not that makes any sort of difference.
You all seem to imply that Paulson/GPI have no security/tracking that mimics this. I have no idea of how the two compare, but I do know for sure that the resorts world LV have some sort of RFID/tracking etc as I have murdered a few racks of those and I have come across the wiring in there. As I said, I am no expert and I do not know how this system that Fontainebleau uses compares to that, but I would imagine that Paulson/GPI is well aware of all of this and they are working feverishly to be competitive both in price and in how their technology works.

Does anyone actually KNOW about how what Paulson/GPI system can do as far as tracking and how it compared to this?
 
I would assume, if GPI really wants to compete in this field, they would base it around their most durable chips e.g. Bud Jones plastics or B&G jetons. Manufacturing challenges and poor durability of traditional clay Paulsons would be a poor return on investment.
 
I would assume, if GPI really wants to compete in this field, they would base it around their most durable chips e.g. Bud Jones plastics or B&G jetons. Manufacturing challenges and poor durability of traditional clay Paulsons would be a poor return on investment.
I would think so too. I much prefer everything about the tactile experience of compression molded clay chips over high quality plastics, but.....

If I'm the one running a Casino, or even more so, a card room I'm going for one of the many options for high quality plastics. There is no excuse for a shitty abs slippery slugged plastic chip, but high quality plastics handle well, they stack great even after being in circulation for decades and they will outlast a compression molded chip easily by 3 or 4x. Obviously adding tracking technology is going to add cost which would make the long term cost savings even more of a consideration.
 
They will figure out a way to hack these...
 
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I know ResortsWorld has this technologies with their chips and tables, but I thought I heard someone say it never works right.

Furthermore, I wonder how many gamblers would be trepidatious playing on a table that "knows how much you're betting." There's already conspiracy theories about the shuffler giving you bad cards when you're betting more than usual, and this seems to play right into that.

Even if the technology is useful for the casino, I could see this absolutely backfiring on them.
 

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