Finished Barrington/ESPN table with topper (16 Viewers)

[sjpj21w]

Thanks for all the help everyone! Does anybody have a link to detailed instructions on how to add the COB LED lights with a dimmer and battery pack? I found this thanks to yalls help:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/barrington-poker-table-thread.30910/post-2352520

But I was wondering if there’s a more detailed one somewhere?

 

[chipzilla]

Thanks for all the help everyone! Does anybody have a link to detailed instructions on how to add the COB LED lights with a dimmer and battery pack? I found this thanks to yalls help:

https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/barrington-poker-table-thread.30910/post-2352520

But I was wondering if there’s a more detailed one somewhere?

That greedintern's post is THE guide for adding COB LED lights. It's pretty straightforward, just buy the parts noted and connect them. If you have a specific question, just ask. It uses 12V LEDs, a 12V battery pack, and a 12v dimmer.

I followed it, but used a 5V LED strip, 5V battery pack and dimmer, because I wanted to use a standard cell-phone type battery bank/pack I already have, instead of a special dedicated 12v pack. You can see my post with details here:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/barrington-poker-table-thread.30910/post-2800995

 

[sjpj21w]

That greedintern's post is THE guide for adding COB LED lights. It's pretty straightforward, just buy the parts noted and connect them. If you have a specific question, just ask. It uses 12V LEDs, a 12V battery pack, and a 12v dimmer.

I followed it, but used a 5V LED strip, 5V battery pack and dimmer, because I wanted to use a standard cell-phone type battery bank/pack I already have, instead of a special dedicated 12v pack. You can see my post with details here:
https://www.pokerchipforum.com/threads/barrington-poker-table-thread.30910/post-2800995

One specific question that I have is do you use anything to affix the LED strip into the space in front of the other LEDS or is it just a stuff and snuggly fit kind of situation?

I also don't fully understand how to take the wired LED strips from the top of the table to the bottom of the table. Am I supposed to drill two holes for each side of the wire connecting the top to the bottom and wire them through to the bottom or is there a hole that the default LEDs have that I could put the new LEDs through?

This is my amazon cart right now (yes, I don't own a drill that's the level amateur DIY that I'm currently at):

 

[chipzilla]

One specific question that I have is do you use anything to affix the LED strip into the space in front of the other LEDS or is it just a stuff and snuggly fit kind of situation?

The COB LED strips backside is a adhesive strip. Just peel the film off the back to expose the adhesive and attach the new strip on top of the old existing strip.

FYI, I compared a couple 8mm wide COB strips to the 5mm wide COB strips. And it looked to me like the actual discrete LED emitters themselves were the same size. The only difference was the width of the adhesive backing. If this is important to you, you can probably visually confirm this in the supplier's pics before you buy or after you receive them. I used the 5mm strips because that's what was available on amazon at the time and it adhered to the old strips just fine.

I think greedyintern noted the 8mm strip size was able to also just press into the gap under the rail and hold there. It was just the right size to fit and hold with some friction. So that could be a advantage.

 

[ef28]

One specific question that I have is do you use anything to affix the LED strip into the space in front of the other LEDS or is it just a stuff and snuggly fit kind of situation?

I also don't fully understand how to take the wired LED strips from the top of the table to the bottom of the table. Am I supposed to drill two holes for each side of the wire connecting the top to the bottom and wire them through to the bottom or is there a hole that the default LEDs have that I could put the new LEDs through?

This is my amazon cart right now (yes, I don't own a drill that's the level amateur DIY that I'm currently at):


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FYI, you might not be able to drill the holes with that drill. Take it from me, I tried using my Ryobi and it did nothing. Bought a good Milawakee drill and it completed the hole in a few mins (you have to stop and start a few times to make sure you don't cut through the vinyl).

 

[sjpj21w]

The COB LED strips backside is a adhesive strip. Just peel the film off the back to expose the adhesive and attach the new strip on top of the old existing strip.

FYI, I compared a couple 8mm wide COB strips to the 5mm wide COB strips. And it looked to me like the actual discrete LED emitters themselves were the same size. The only difference was the width of the adhesive backing. If this is important to you, you can probably visually confirm this in the supplier's pics before you buy or after you receive them. I used the 5mm strips because that's what was available on amazon at the time and it adhered to the old strips just fine.

I think greedyintern noted the 8mm strip size was able to also just press into the gap under the rail and hold there. It was just the right size to fit and hold with some friction. So that could be a advantage.

This is very helpful. Thank you. I can't even tell what mm the LEDs in my cart are (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BVR755VK/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A3OE3R3Z65YA6J&th=1), but they're the same ones that greedintern linked. Do you know if you have to make a new hole to put the new LEDs through to get to the bottom of the table or if I could use a preexisting hole from the stock LEDs?

 

[sjpj21w]

FYI, you might not be able to drill the holes with that drill. Take it from me, I tried using my Ryobi and it did nothing. Bought a good Milawakee drill and it completed the hole in a few mins (you have to stop and start a few times to make sure you don't cut through the vinyl).

Thanks so much for the drill rec. I was worried about the drill power too. Do you know what model of Milawakee would be good enough? Also what do you mean "make sure you don't cut through the vinyl"? Aren't I supposed to drill from the bottom up? and the first thing you would go through is the vinyl?

 

[chipzilla]

One specific question that I have is do you use anything to affix the LED strip into the space in front of the other LEDS or is it just a stuff and snuggly fit kind of situation?

I also don't fully understand how to take the wired LED strips from the top of the table to the bottom of the table. Am I supposed to drill two holes for each side of the wire connecting the top to the bottom and wire them through to the bottom or is there a hole that the default LEDs have that I could put the new LEDs through?

This is my amazon cart right now (yes, I don't own a drill that's the level amateur DIY that I'm currently at):


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The parts in your cart related to LEDs are 12V. I didn't use those. But if they are the same as what @greedyintern used, then they will work. See my earlier post I noted for the 5V parts I used.

For the hole saw in your cart, that looks like the same one greedyintern used, so it should work. I used a different brand, Lenox based on some other posts that suggested it was the best. A good saw is important. Needs to be sharp and durable to cut all those cupholder holes.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0054SBE4E?ref_=ppx_hzod_title_dt_b_fed_asin_title_0_2&th=1

For the 20v drill in your cart, I don't know that brand. But 20V drills generally are powerful so should work and worth a try at that good price. A powerful drill is helpful/important. I used a Dewalt corded drill, a well known brand, but most others used a battery drill. When you start drilling those cupholder holes, the hole saw is going to grab the wood and tend to want to suddenly stop and twist and jerk the drill in your hand. A smooth high speed drilling technique is the target to get through the table. Be ready when you approach the end of the hole.....it will tend to punch through when you reach the end and hit the foam in the rail. Put something underneath like scrap wood or tile, etc, to protect whatever is under the table (wood floor, carpet, etc).

For how to feed the LED strip through the table, here is the pic from greedyintern that shows the existing hole. Just feed the new strip through there. The other side of the hole is in the edge of the rail, visible when you slightly fold your table closed. Just follow the path of the existing LED lights.

 

[chipzilla]

This is very helpful. Thank you. I can't even tell what mm the LEDs in my cart are (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BVR755VK/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A3OE3R3Z65YA6J&th=1), but they're the same ones that greedintern linked. Do you know if you have to make a new hole to put the new LEDs through to get to the bottom of the table or if I could use a preexisting hole from the stock LEDs?

That looks like same LED's that greedyintern used, so they are 8mm wide. It looks 8mm to me too by looking at the pics in Amazon (you can see a slightly wider strip). The description for this strip didn't mention its 8mm width. Some of the other strips on amazon do include that detail.

If you have a LED table, then the hole already exists to pass the strip through the table. See my prior post.

 

[sjpj21w]

Awesome. Replaced the saw in my cart with the Lenox one you recommended and going to look for a better drill too. Do you know what @ef28 meant by make sure you don't cut through the vinyl? Also do you know the difference between using the 12V vs 5V that you used and 8mm vs the 5mm strips? Or I guess are there any advantages of going with either? I know you said the 8mm is wider but the light distances are the same as the 5mm, but does a wider or less wide strip have any benefit here?

 

[ef28]

I meant the padding of the rail. When cutting the hole you are cutting up towards the rail. If you are not careful you can cut out the hole and rip through the padding of the rail.

 

[chipzilla]

Awesome. Replaced the saw in my cart with the Lenox one you recommended and going to look for a better drill too. Do you know what @ef28 meant by make sure you don't cut through the vinyl? Also do you know the difference between using the 12V vs 5V that you used and 8mm vs the 5mm strips? Or I guess are there any advantages of going with either? I know you said the 8mm is wider but the light distances are the same as the 5mm, but does a wider or less wide strip have any benefit here?

For cutting through the vinyl, here is what the top of the rail looks like after you remove the old cup holder but BEFORE you cut the new hole. The new hole will be larger. You can see therefore that the vinyl fabric overlaps the new bigger hole. When sawing, you don’t want to saw too far and cut/damage that vinyl.

12v/5v is independent from 8mm/5mm. You can choose whatever combination you want.

I personally feel 5v is an advantage: it allows you to skip buying a dedicated 12v battery and just use an existing cell phone power bank, if you have one. Also, some come with standard USB-A connectors which simplifies the connections. From LED light performance/intensity, there is no difference. I.e. there is no reason to prefer 12v in my opinion, except maybe there MIGHT be more choices among 12v strips.

For 8mm size width , the advantage is it fits more snugly under specifically the Barrington LED rail. (Not sure about other tables). For 5mm size strip, there’s no practical advantage. One tiny benefit is I was able to squeeze my topper under the installed 5mm strip because its smaller width gives a little room for that. Probably no one cares about that.

For LED density, I.e. 480 LEDs/meter vs 400 vs 320, they all are plenty bright. Too bright, hence the dimmer. All are way better than the original LEDs. Once they are turned on , practically you can’t see the discrete LED emitters. They all look diffused compared to the original LEDs. Chose your LED strip based on voltage 12/5v and width 8/5mm , and don’t worry about density as long as it’s 320/meter or more, IMO.

 

[sjpj21w]

Awesome got it thank you so much. I think I'm going to go with the 5mm width because I'm getting a custom topper done by rjdev7 so hopefully will fit better with the 5mm and 5v I guess. The only thing is in your picture I feel like the color of the lights seem more cool white than warm white, which color option did you go with on these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZH99SWJ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

Also, if I don't have an issue with just plugging it into the wall, could I just get the lights and the connector kit and connect the COB LEDs to the power supply that the stock LEDs use?

 

[chipzilla]

Awesome got it thank you so much. I think I'm going to go with the 5mm width because I'm getting a custom topper done by rjdev7 so hopefully will fit better with the 5mm and 5v I guess. The only thing is in your picture I feel like the color of the lights seem more cool white than warm white, which color option did you go with on these: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DZH99SWJ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

Also, if I don't have an issue with just plugging it into the wall, could I just get the lights and the connector kit and connect the COB LEDs to the power supply that the stock LEDs use?

The LED color of my lights are warm-white-3000k. They probably just look like cool white in my pics because of a bad pic.

The stock power supply that came with my Barrington table says it has 12v output. So its NOT compatible with 5V LEDs. You'd have to use the 12V LED if you want to use that power supply. You will still need to use a dimmer, unless you like super bright blinding lights. The lights, dimmer and power supply/battery all have to use the same voltage to be compatible, so buy them accordingly.

 

[sjpj21w]

The LED color of my lights are warm-white-3000k. They probably just look like cool white in my pics because of a bad pic.

The stock power supply that came with my Barrington table says it has 12v output. So its NOT compatible with 5V LEDs. You'd have to use the 12V LED if you want to use that power supply. You will still need to use a dimmer, unless you like super bright blinding lights. The lights, dimmer and power supply/battery all have to use the same voltage to be compatible, so buy them accordingly.

Awesome thank you so much. I think I might go with warm-white-2700k because I think I want it a little glowyer/less white (please tell me if this is a mistake).

For the LEDs I'm thinking these: https://a.co/d/0b2RvW8C -- 12V to match the stock power supply (in case I go with that), 5mm width to work better with the custom topper, and 400 LEDS/M meeting your 320 recommendation.

For the dimmer: https://a.co/d/00jhTYh0 -- 12V-24V so it'll match the LEDs (will the dimmer still work if I decide to stick to the stock power supply?)

For the wire connections: https://a.co/d/0hNNueEO (I'm assuming this has everything I would need)

And then if I want to do the battery in the future I will get a 12V battery.

Thank you so much for all of your insight. This has been so helpful. I can't wait to update with the results.

 

[chipzilla]

Awesome thank you so much. I think I might go with warm-white-2700k because I think I want it a little glowyer/less white (please tell me if this is a mistake).

For the LEDs I'm thinking these: https://a.co/d/0b2RvW8C -- 12V to match the stock power supply (in case I go with that), 5mm width to work better with the custom topper, and 400 LEDS/M meeting your 320 recommendation.

Yes, That LED strip will work if you want 12v and 5mm.

For the dimmer: https://a.co/d/00jhTYh0 -- 12V-24V so it'll match the LEDs (will the dimmer still work if I decide to stick to the stock power supply?)

Yes, That dimmer will work for your selected 12v LED strip. Yes, you can use it with the stock power supply too (though I can only assume the connectors are compatible in size since I don't have that info).

For the wire connections: https://a.co/d/0hNNueEO (I'm assuming this has everything I would need)

Problem here. The connectors you selected are for 8mm wide strip lights. You need 5mm wide if you plan to use the strip light you noted above. I looked quickly on amazon and don't see an equivalent connector kit for 5mm (you can check further). You need these same contents but for 5mm strips. Specifically, the connectors that attach to the strip won't fit. You need 1) minimum two strip connectors that fit 5mm strips on one end and have a female DC barrel connector on other end , and 2) One DC power splitter that splits from one female barrel connector to two male barrel connectors. You could explore more to see if you can find these items.

Alternatively, you could change to the 8mm LED strip light, and then keep the connector kit you selected which would then be compatible.

I'm assuming these DC power barrel connectors all fit compatibly. I didn't use them so I can't confirm. Worst case, you can try and easily return to Amazon if they don't fit.

And then if I want to do the battery in the future I will get a 12V battery.

Yes, you can use a 12V battery instead of the 12V power supply if desired.

 

[sjpj21w]

Yes, That LED strip will work if you want 12v and 5mm.

Yes, That dimmer will work for your selected 12v LED strip. Yes, you can use it with the stock power supply too (though I can only assume the connectors are compatible in size since I don't have that info).

Problem here. The connectors you selected are for 8mm wide strip lights. You need 5mm wide if you plan to use the strip light you noted above. I looked quickly on amazon and don't see an equivalent connector kit for 5mm (you can check further). You need these same contents but for 5mm strips. Specifically, the connectors that attach to the strip won't fit. You need 1) minimum two strip connectors that fit 5mm strips on one end and have a female DC barrel connector on other end , and 2) One DC power splitter that splits from one female barrel connector to two male barrel connectors. You could explore more to see if you can find these items.

Alternatively, you could change to the 8mm LED strip light, and then keep the connector kit you selected which would then be compatible.

I'm assuming these DC power barrel connectors all fit compatibly. I didn't use them so I can't confirm. Worst case, you can try and easily return to Amazon if they don't fit.

Yes, you can use a 12V battery instead of the 12V power supply if desired.

Looks like there's mainly 8mm and 10mm kits, but I found these two:
5mm strip connecter with female barrel or this. Not many reviews on the 5mm strip connectors worries me a bit. Could go with the 8mm, but I just checked the space and it's so tight even without a topper so 5mm seems like it'd work better.

Along with one of these 12V DC splitter 2 male/1 female could work? Is there a specific DC splitter measurement I need to get? I'm seeing 5.5 x 2.1, 5.5 x 2.5, and 3.5 x 1.35.

Also I found the holes that the stock LED wires go through and damn they are tight. Wild to think that another wire could fit through there

 

[chipzilla]

Looks like there's mainly 8mm and 10mm kits, but I found these two:
5mm strip connecter with female barrel or this. Not many reviews on the 5mm strip connectors worries me a bit. Could go with the 8mm, but I just checked the space and it's so tight even without a topper so 5mm seems like it'd work better.

Along with one of these 12V DC splitter 2 male/1 female could work? Is there a specific DC splitter measurement I need to get? I'm seeing 5.5 x 2.1, 5.5 x 2.5, and 3.5 x 1.35.

Also I found the holes that the stock LED wires go through and damn they are tight. Wild to think that another wire could fit through there

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The new 5mm connector kit you found should work for the strip lights. I can only assume the DC barrel connector size is correct, but the description doesn't say its size. I think the barrel size needed is 5.5 x 2.1mm because that is the size on the dimmer you selected which is the dimmers other have used.

The new splitter you found has the wrong size I think at 5.5 x 2.5mm. I think you need 5.5 x 2.1mm. As I said before, I didn't use these type connectors, so I can't absolutely confirm. But I would just try them and return to Amazon if they don't fit.

Yeah, that hole is small for snaking the new LED strip through it. But it should be doable with some difficulty. Get a firm but flexible wire and snake it through that hole with the new LED strip firmly taped/affixed to the end of the snake wire.

 

[sjpj21w]

Awesome thank you. Looks like this one is 5.5 x 2.1mm so I'll go with that one rather than the mystery one and this splitter is the right 5.5 x 2.1 so I'll go with that one.

 

[sjpj21w]

Final Amazon cart. Just need to find a good Milwaukee drill to getter done. Decided to end up going with the wireless battery. Would I need any extra wiring for the battery or couldn't it fit in one of the splitters?

The new 5mm connector kit you found should work for the strip lights. I can only assume the DC barrel connector size is correct, but the description doesn't say its size. I think the barrel size needed is 5.5 x 2.1mm because that is the size on the dimmer you selected which is the dimmers other have used.

The new splitter you found has the wrong size I think at 5.5 x 2.5mm. I think you need 5.5 x 2.1mm. As I said before, I didn't use these type connectors, so I can't absolutely confirm. But I would just try them and return to Amazon if they don't fit.

Yeah, that hole is small for snaking the new LED strip through it. But it should be doable with some difficulty. Get a firm but flexible wire and snake it through that hole with the new LED strip firmly taped/affixed to the end of the snake wire.