Feedback on custom label for a Greek Mold set (2 Viewers)

[QuailValley]

Finally getting around to getting a custom set. I'll be using the Tiberius colors with a custom label. Want some feedback on the labels.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/uzcy...Mold.png?rlkey=k5j321ydbcocv3bcbaxsygygt&dl=0


I'll be using the $25k for "25"; the $500 for "100"; and the bounty for "500".

Any thoughts on the overall design, or things I should change?

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

Cool! I like the simplicity and the quail is great. I think the letters should be more distinct, when on a small inlay the Q doesn't stand out to me as a Q. Likewise, I dislike the number font; the 5s look warped.

Just me, I want the inlay to be clear and easy to read without much explanation. You've got lots of empty space and hanging letters/numbers.

 

[QuailValley]

Cool! I like the simplicity and the quail is great. I think the letters should be more distinct, when on a small inlay the Q doesn't stand out to me as a Q. Likewise, I dislike the number font; the 5s look warped.

Just me, I want the inlay to be clear and easy to read without much explanation. You've got lots of empty space and hanging letters/numbers.

That's fair on the font. Its an odd font and its really love/hate with people. But it is the font that I use for my homebrew logo (attacched), so I used it to match.

I also hear you on too much empty space. I tried making the Q and V larger, but I felt like it took away from the Quail. Honestly I may look at making the quail bigger, and maybe doing the number to the side. Looks really good with the 25, but gets a little stretched with 500

 

[NotRealNameNoSir]

For me personally I don't mind including the whole quail valley brewing if you'd like, or the full word Quail Valley? Font looks a lot better in whole words ( thought the A is goofy).
Keep workshopping, love the theme.

 

[QuailValley]

Iteration 3

 

[allforcharity]

Only 3 denoms?

 

[QuailValley]

Only 3 denoms?

Yeah we play a pretty small cash game. $25 buy in with quarter/quarter blinds. I've never had to pull out the 5s honestly (500 in this case). This is only going to be a 600 chip set anyways. But I'm planning on getting some $20 or $25 plaques made at some point the future.

 

[JZPdub]

Some thoughts on changes to the original design: use the words "Quail Valley" arched across the top in a small font, make the font of the denoms a little smaller, and move the quail into the center

 

[allforcharity]

Yeah we play a pretty small cash game. $25 buy in with quarter/quarter blinds. I've never had to pull out the 5s honestly (500 in this case). This is only going to be a 600 chip set anyways. But I'm planning on getting some $20 or $25 plaques made at some point the future.

Why not use actual values: 25c, $1, $5?

 

[MrRossKeys]

I really like the original design. I actually like the font used for the Q.

I love your choices for the chip colors: the 25K and 500 Tiberius are pretty awesome, and using the white 500 for your 100 is brilliant. However, I'm not a fan of the simple pink bounty chip as your 500 chip. If it were me, I'd choose the 1K or $5 Tiberius to be your 500.

Good luck!

 

[Colquhoun]

I like the typeface too.
I would keep an eye on the kerning between the numbers in the denoms...there looks like too much space between the 1 and the 00, and maybe bring the 2 and 5 a bit closer?

 

[QuailValley]

I like the typeface too.
I would keep an eye on the kerning between the numbers in the denoms...there looks like too much space between the 1 and the 00, and maybe bring the 2 and 5 a bit closer?

Yeah I was looking at that. I think it is an issue with the font itself, it has some odd spacing. I'll have a look at that though and see if I can get it a little closer.

I really like the original design. I actually like the font used for the Q.

I love your choices for the chip colors: the 25K and 500 Tiberius are pretty awesome, and using the white 500 for your 100 is brilliant. However, I'm not a fan of the simple pink bounty chip as your 500 chip. If it were me, I'd choose the 1K or $5 Tiberius to be your 500.

Good luck!

Thanks! I love the font, I originally found it from a band called Dance Gavin Dance. I think you may be right on the 500 color. That bounty is a bit simple. I think the 1k would be a good choice. Honestly the $5 is incredibly muted compared to the rest of the set. I really want my set to pop.

 

[Colquhoun]

Yeah I was looking at that. I think it is an issue with the font itself, it has some odd spacing. I'll have a look at that though and see if I can get it a little closer.


Thanks! I love the font, I originally found it from a band called Dance Gavin Dance. I think you may be right on the 500 color. That bounty is a bit simple. I think the 1k would be a good choice. Honestly the $5 is incredibly muted compared to the rest of the set. I really want my set to pop.

It’s not uncommon to have to adjust the spacing on all numerals for all fonts

 

[QuailValley]

Why not use actual values: 25c, $1, $5?

Didn’t like the look of the cent and dollar symbols.

 

[Colquhoun]

Didn’t like the look of the cent and dollar symbols.

I’ve used dollar and cent symbols from different typefaces before…as long as you select something that has some similar qualities, it could work.

 

[warma]

I know you’re going with modern chips, but I love just the quail and the denom. Has more of an old school IYKYK vibe, not the current over the top casino mega inlay billboard approach.

Wonder what it looks like if you rotate the denom left 90 degrees. Would it fit the inlay better on it’s side?

 

[warma]

Didn’t like the look of the cent and dollar symbols.

I’ve played the conversion game… it did not go well for me as bank; it also caused confusion among the players. @Colquhoun has got the right idea- see if you can’t find a $ / ¢ symbol you like and make it smaller to focus on the denom. I’ve done that and found it works well, and no one will be the wiser.

Edit: 2min of searching, but maybe something like this, but again, not that big- shrunken down to 1/2 or 1/3 the size (ignore the numbers- I added those to help identify the style of the number). The $ has the same nailhead ending that your font does, so it should being some immediate familiarity to your players. And at a smaller size, it signals that it’s important, but not the focus, which would draw the eye to the value not the symbol. Not sure what font you’re currently using, so I can’t mock something up, but give it a try and use your gut reaction to steer you.

https://www.1001fonts.com/kalela-slab-font.html

 

[QuailValley]

Alright, managed to get the dollars and cents and adjusted the kerning. The dollars and cents look much better on this iteration than the original. Which is what I tried it on and didnt like. Honestly I think this what what I'm settling on. Pretty modern, but clean overall. Thanks for all the advice and critique!

 

[Colquhoun]

Alright, managed to get the dollars and cents and adjusted the kerning. The dollars and cents look much better on this iteration than the original. Which is what I tried it on and didnt like. Honestly I think this what what I'm settling on. Pretty modern, but clean overall. Thanks for all the advice and critique!

I recommend making the dollar sign smaller and at the same height as the cent sign. To me, the dollar sign right now commands too much attention compared to the denomination.

 

[MeridianFC]

To be honest I like the original option (though I would put proper cash signs and denoms there). That said all of the variations look good.

 

[QuailValley]

I recommend making the dollar sign smaller and at the same height as the cent sign. To me, the dollar sign right now commands too much attention compared to the denomination.

I'm getting real close to killing the dollar sign and just having '1' and '5' alone on the chip. I'll keep the cent sign for clarity.

My issue with the dollar sign and messing with it is the font. the 'S' is long and skinny and loses a lot of detail when it gets smaller especially with the line through it. Kind of looks like a mess of lines instead of a symbol.

Also brings it back to the cleaner look of my original design some.

 

[Colquhoun]

I dont think you need to feel that it's required to use the dollar sign that is designed for that typeface, Frankly, the letterforms and numerals are beautiful, but that dollar sign is a little wonky. Changing the typeface for the sign or going completely without it is definitelty an option.

 

[QuailValley]

Mock ups I'm working with.

 

[QuailValley]

Final Chip Designs with mock ups on the chips

 

[QuailValley]

Also working on some custom plaques, and dealer button. Dealer button almost done, but custom plaques are just beginning. IMO the plaque is significantly harder than the chips.

 

[Colquhoun]

Just a heads-up…Tina (or her label supplier) is likely to reduce your art slightly so that it isn’t as close to the edge. It’s to prevent anything being cut off when it isn’t perfectly placed when they do the cutting.
On my chips, I supplied art that had what I felt was plenty of space, and gave instructions showing exactly where to cut, and they still reduced it further.
Just trying to manage expectations.

 

[QuailValley]

Just a heads-up…Tina (or her label supplier) is likely to reduce your art slightly so that it isn’t as close to the edge. It’s to prevent anything being cut off when it isn’t perfectly placed when they do the cutting.
On my chips, I supplied art that had what I felt was plenty of space, and gave instructions showing exactly where to cut, and they still reduced it further.
Just trying to manage expectations.

How did they reduce it, by take out things?

 

[SoupHQ]

How did they reduce it, by take out things?

I can imagine something like this:

 

[Colquhoun]

I can imagine something like this:

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Yes, like that. Here’s an example…actual art on the left, printed chip on the right, you can see looking at the white ring and the distance from the edge, it was definitely reduced more.

Ok, I know it’s subtle…but I included a cut line so that the art could be as large as possible in the space. I had these labels done on two different sets and they were reduced on both.

 

[warma]

Yes, like that. Here’s an example…actual art on the left, printed chip on the right, you can see looking at the white ring and the distance from the edge, it was definitely reduced more.
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Ok, I know it’s subtle…but I included a cut line so that the art could be as large as possible in the space. I had these labels done on two different sets and they were reduced on both.

Did they refund your money for using the wrong mold?