Cup Holders in Rail Questions (1 Viewer)

[Moxie Mike]

Hi PCF Builders!

I'm looking to accomplish three things:

1) Install deeper cupholders in my barrington table;
2) Install cupholders in my regular table (6" wide padded rail);
3) Install cupholders in two drink tables that I'm building.

I purchased 20 of these, which seem to be the standard size. I chose this product because of its size - I have about 2 1/2" of depth to work with on both tables.

The problem I've ran into is that the inside diameter of this cupholder is only 2 5/8" instead of 2 3/4" like the product description reads. As such, a pint glass does not fully fit in the cupholder.

I would seem that there are only two standard sizes of cupholder - this size and the 'jumbo' ones that are 4" wide and 3" deep.

The problem with using the jumbos is that they are too deep, and are really too wide for the Barrington table rail.

So what I'd really like to find is a 3" wide cupholder that's about 2 1/4" deep. Does anyone know where I might be able to find something like that?

I don't think 1" of depth is enough:

Barrington cupholder on the left:

#epoxypron:

 

[Coyote]

https://texaspokersupply.com/products/build-a-table/cup-holders/

Ideal size seems to be the "large" one, between "small" and "jumbo", but this size is only offered in plastic or in slide-under form (hopefully temporarily, but you can ask). Whisky glasses need a 3.2in (or 81mm) internal cupholder circumference.

 

[Moxie Mike]

I have the plastic slide-unders - in fact they worked well for a long time but my rail warped, so I had to screw it to the playing surface. Now the slide unders are inadequate.

I'm not too worried about whisky glasses - those can sit on a coaster or a paper towel.

 

[Jon Udell]

Thirty dollar snack cart from Walmart with two jumbo cup holders installed. Works great and took less than an hour to assemble and cut the holes on my router table.

 

[Moxie Mike]

Nice cart. Do you have a link to the product page by any chance?

 

[timinater]

I found some Guinness pint glasses that fit my cupholders nicely.

Not ideal but one solution could be to use a different set of glasses that do fit in? Seems like your in a bind.

 

[Jon Udell]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Zimtown-...ing-Cart-Over-Bed-Laptop-Desk-Black/131952242


Took me awhile to find it.... its on clearance normally $46.00 selling for 29.99. If you buy one let me know if you want a template to cut the holes for cupholders.

Cheers.

 

[Moxie Mike]

I found some Guinness pint* glasses that fit my cupholders nicely.

Not ideal but one solution could be to use a different set of glasses that do fit in? Seems like your in a bind.

It looks like your Guinness glass has a slightly narrower shape.

Changing glassware is a possibility but not really an expense I'd like to incur all things being equal.

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do yet. The pint glasses I have (more like mixing glasses actually) go about halfway down... which isn't horrible. But they won't hold a coffee thermos or soda bottle either.

I may just install the ones I got and live with the shortcomings... it wouldn't be cost effective to return them since Walmart.com had free 2-day shipping.

 

[Moxie Mike]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Zimtown-...ing-Cart-Over-Bed-Laptop-Desk-Black/131952242


Took me awhile to find it.... its on clearance normally $46.00 selling for 29.99. If you buy one let me know if you want a template to cut the holes for cupholders.

Cheers.

Thanks for the link. The reason I asked for it is because I haven't designed the pedestal base yet and I was thinking of using the frame for the tops I've already built.

I don't think I need a template but thanks for the offer - I was just going to bore through them with a hole saw.

 

[asian bino]

I've never understood a 'too deep' cupholder. What kind of beverage container are you placing in the cupholder
that you cannot retrieve? A shot glass?

 

[Jon Udell]

I considered the same thing. in the end I went with fast and cheap. I do love the customization though!

 

[Coyote]

I've never understood a 'too deep' cupholder. What kind of beverage container are you placing in the cupholder
that you cannot retrieve? A shot glass?

Whisky glasses are never taller than 4in - at the most.
A 3in deep cupholder means that the glass protrudes no more than 1in from the holder, which means that you touch with your filthy, gunky, sticky fingers the top of the glass, on which you place your lips in order to drink

 

[Moxie Mike]

I've never understood a 'too deep' cupholder. What kind of beverage container are you placing in the cupholder
that you cannot retrieve? A shot glass?

Two things... if it's too deep it will be visible below the table, which will look weird. Cosmetics aside, cupholders that are too deep will prevent the Barrington table from closing.

The other thing is that it creates the possibility of people hitting it with their knees or the arm rests on the chairs we use, which could make a mess.

 

[72o]

Just remove the cupholders and store them separately when not in use? And remove the arm rests from your chairs? They really arent necessary at a poker table after all.

I love these combo cupholders:

https://www.amazon.com/Amarine-made...PMCD69R9VKN&psc=1&refRID=C2NMPWVY7PMCD69R9VKN

 

[Al Azouri]

Just remove the cupholders and store them separately when not in use? And remove the arm rests from your chairs? They really arent necessary at a poker table after all.

I love these combo cupholders:

https://www.amazon.com/Amarine-made...PMCD69R9VKN&psc=1&refRID=C2NMPWVY7PMCD69R9VKN

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I have these in my table. They are awesome. That bottom nub is removable.

 

[Marhault]

Just remove the cupholders and store them separately when not in use? And remove the arm rests from your chairs? They really arent necessary at a poker table after all.

I love these combo cupholders:

https://www.amazon.com/Amarine-made...PMCD69R9VKN&psc=1&refRID=C2NMPWVY7PMCD69R9VKN

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These look awesome! See this is the kind of stuff I'd never find! Who would have thought to look for boat cup holders for a poker table... GENIUS

 

[Al Azouri]

These look awesome! See this is the kind of stuff I'd never find! Who would have thought to look for boat cup holders for a poker table... GENIUS

Now that you know what to look for, check eBay. You can often find them for less.

 

[Moxie Mike]

Here's an update. The table upgrades are complete.

I installed the cupholders from the original post in the Barrington table by boring through the bottom panel under the original cupholder with a 2 3/4" hole saw. There were 4 spots where the tubular steel legs were in the way; I was able to effectively zip off the excess material with a sawzall.

I learned by accident that online purchases can be returned to Walmart in person. So I returned the other 10 and ordered some 4-inchers on eBay.

When they arrived, I unexpectedly received a mix of two different depth cupholders... Some were aluminum and others were stainless steel.

The company sent me a replacement package that was all off the deeper aluminum products, which are complete junk with a jagged edge that WILL slice you. So I ended up ordering some more stainless steel cupholders to finish the job.

Requisite pron:

The aluminum ones are in the back.

 

[Chile85]

Hey @Moxie Mike did you end up using eBay or Walmart holders on the Barrington?

 

[Moxie Mike]

Hey @Moxie Mike did you end up using eBay or Walmart holders on the Barrington?

Walmart had the best price at the time... not sure about now:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Trademark-Poker-Lot-Of-10-Stainless-Steel-Cup-Holders/21070419

Just make sure you get the stainless steel ones... the aluminum ones are not a good option.

 

[Chile85]

@Moxie Mike thank you!

 

[ekricket]

Whisky glasses are never taller than 4in - at the most.
A 3in deep cupholder means that the glass protrudes no more than 1in from the holder, which means that you touch with your filthy, gunky, sticky fingers the top of the glass, on which you place your lips in order to drink

Dont you love it when the waitperson brings your drink to you like this, dangling it from their fingertips all along the rim of the glass. Drink up!